The DUMBEST bar rules.....GO...

9BallBust-O

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I know everyone has had it happen when you play at a local bar. All the sudden there is an EXPERT pool player there that knows all these rules ( most of em not real )

lets hear the dumbest bar rules someone has tried to pull on you :D

I like the "nudge the cue ball 1/4 inch and not hit any ball on the table" saftey technique
 
IF you scratch on the break, you already lost.
It's ok to scoop the cueball with the ferrule.
The 8 ball has to go in CLEAN.
If the 8-ball is in the kitchen and your opponent scratched. You have to shoot down the rail to make the 8-ball ( kick at it ).
 
A buddy of mine came across a strange bar rule this past weekend. He went to a bar that had 3 bar boxes. Most bar tables around here are 75 cents per game, but the tables at this place were $1.00. It's not like this is a nice place in a nice part of town either, the table prices were just jacked up. My buddy said all the better players in the bar were rotating on one particular table, so he put quarters up. When he finally got up to the table to play, they informed him that in order to get their $1.00's worth out of each rack, they play last-pocket, bank 8-ball. I asked my buddy, "but what happens if you bank the 8 into the wrong pocket?" To which he replied, "you lose, like I did." He said at that point he packed up and left because it would take forever to get back to the table and he didn't want to play their silly games anyway.
 
Yeah I love the "scoop jump" I always ask ... " Is this a pool hall or an ice cream parlor, Scoop? And the BEST is when they by chance make the ball for that "jump shot" and then do some top of the wall cock walk around the table like they have mad A$$ skill.

Also I think the beginner has one of the most beautiful stance and strokes in the world. I like the jab practice "strokes" and the 30-50 degree elevation of the cue at all times ( I cant understand why I cant make in a straight in shot. I really like the "sex" bridge - with the cue on top of the hand gripped between the index and midle fingers knuckles. BEAUTIFUL
 
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All balls must go clean. Call every bounce/carom on the shot. A rattle in the pocket is OK but, a slow rolled ball down the long rail skimming the rail is supposed to be called.

Skippy I like yours, I forgot all about that one! :D

I go into a bar with a barbox, put my money up. I play, run the table. I lose. My opponent tells me you have a choice of banking the ball before the 8, or the 8 you didnt do neither. My reply, "Hell I didn't know that, watching all of you playing such crappy position every game I didn't think to ask what the rules were!"

Some frowned, some chuckled.
 
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renard said:
All balls must go clean. Call every bounce/carom on the shot. A rattle in the pocket is OK but, a slow rolled ball down the long rail skimming the rail is supposed to be called.
The guys in my local bar play these exact rules.

The weirdest I ever experienced was playing 8-ball in Ireland back in the '80s. The opponent got one ball in hand for each violation, so if you hit the wrong ball, and scratched, he got two consecutive shots, i.e - shoot until miss, then shoot again. I'm not sure what would happen if he scratched on his first shot.
 
runscott said:
The guys in my local bar play these exact rules.

The weirdest I ever experienced was playing 8-ball in Ireland back in the '80s. The opponent got one ball in hand for each violation, so if you hit the wrong ball, and scratched, he got two consecutive shots, i.e - shoot until miss, then shoot again. I'm not sure what would happen if he scratched on his first shot.

Wow, they must have been bangers in Ireland with those rules. Who couldn't get out? Then again thats a severe penalty that you would best be advised to avoid doing that at all costs!
 
9BallBust-O said:
Yeah I love the "scoop jump" I always ask ... " Is this a pool hall or an ice cream parlor, Scoop? And the BEST is when they by chance make the ball for that "jump shot" and then do some top of the wall cock walk around the table like they have mad A$$ skill.

Also I think the beginner has one of the most beautiful stance and strokes in the world. I like the jab practice "strokes" and the 30-50 degree elevation of the cue at all times ( I cant understand why I cant make in a straight in shot. I really like the "sex" bridge - with the cue on top of the hand gripped between the index and midle fingers knuckles. BEAUTIFUL

Hey, there's nothing wrong with the claw bridge. :p That's what I used when I first started (still use it for shots here and there) and it worked alright and worked best at first for opposite handed, too.

I still get a kick out of the speed-jab-practice-stroke, especially when it is followed up by a soft shot. There was one guy at the bar I play in that puts on the most dramatic practice stroke. He gets serious, looks at the shot, gets down on the ball, makes some somewhat rapid strokes, gets up to look at it again, kinda shrugs and releases tension, gets down for a few more strokes before taking a small "zen" moment (while still down), then a few more strokes.. and viola, he's pretty much ready to shoot.

Also have another fellow that doesn't come in the bar so much any more, but he'd easily take a 5-15 minute break on his turn just chatting with people. I think his max was like 20 or 25, somewhere around there. I was waiting for my turn at the table behind about 3 other sets at the time. They may have even been playing doubles, too, which is rarely a faster game. I gave up after about 30-40 minutes when that same game still wasn't over.
 
renard said:
Wow, they must have been bangers in Ireland with those rules. Who couldn't get out? Then again thats a severe penalty that you would best be advised to avoid doing that at all costs!
I only did it once, which is how I found out the rule. I thought they were yanking me so I watched about 6 games until my turn came up again, and it was sure enough a rule they played by.

The reason it worked is that the pockets were very narrow and you had to hit the ball perfect to sink it - running balls down the rail was almost impossible.
 
9BallBust-O said:
Yeah I love the "scoop jump" I always ask ... " Is this a pool hall or an ice cream parlor, Scoop? And the BEST is when they by chance make the ball for that "jump shot" and then do some top of the wall cock walk around the table like they have mad A$$ skill.

Also I think the beginner has one of the most beautiful stance and strokes in the world. I like the jab practice "strokes" and the 30-50 degree elevation of the cue at all times ( I cant understand why I cant make in a straight in shot. I really like the "sex" bridge - with the cue on top of the hand gripped between the index and midle fingers knuckles. BEAUTIFUL

Some guy was in a bar one time walking around acting like he was Vincent from the color of money or something. He beat all the bangers and he was eating up his wifes adjulation.

We play, and he scoops the cueball makes it. I call foul, he says its not. I relent. I beat him get my $5. Now it's my table. I go into length to tell him what a legal jumpshot is. (Making a good hit but not making it.) He's still not buying it, but he's listening. I give him a proposition. $10 to see who makes the most jumpshots. Five the legal and 5 the illegal way.

The bangers are all in it now and want a piece of the action. Vincent wants no part of it, his wife calls me a few choice names. He drags her off.
 
Can't play safe! Gotta go for the shot at all times even if it means you break out a cluster for the other guy to run out. "um yeah...3 ball off the 13 off the rail two rails in the side off the 8". Gotta love that one.:rolleyes:
 
runscott said:
The weirdest I ever experienced was playing 8-ball in Ireland back in the '80s. The opponent got one ball in hand for each violation, so if you hit the wrong ball, and scratched, he got two consecutive shots, i.e - shoot until miss, then shoot again. I'm not sure what would happen if he scratched on his first shot.

Except for the BIH, that's apparently standard English eight ball rules.
http://www.epa.org.uk/wrules.php

What happens if you foul on your first "visit"- do you still get your second "visit", and then your opponent gets two?
 
I was playing a guy in a bar, we were playin' 9ball... Actually, he came to ma saying : you wanna play for some cash? 5$ ? I said : allright, 9ball? he said : yeah, whatever, anything. You know how to play 9ball? No, but i'll learn. I thought : he might be a hustler. I told him the rules of 9ball. I specified that if you didn't hit the lowest ball on the table, the opponent had the BIH. He said : yes, yes... i'm ready. I said : in 9ball, you can win with chance, so, if we play for money, i'd say we should play a best 2 over 3. He agree. I won the 1st game. On the second game, his turn, he had to hit the 5, but he was hooked, he hit the 6. I took the rock, he asked me what i was doing, i said : i have ball in hand, you didn't touched the 5. He said : I know, but i didn't sink the 6, so you don't have BIH. HAHAHA... I told him that i warned him previously. He said : allright, take that ball in hand, but that is what could make you lose. I said : yeah, let's see. And I won the second game to, he gave me that 5$

Another bar rule that i kinda hate is on 8ball, if you sink a ball on the break, you have to pick this kind, you don't have the choice.
 
Eleven years ago, I was with my dad in Europe for a couple of weeks (WWII anniversary thing, he's a vet). The last night we were there, we were in Bastogne, Belgium (where the Battle of the Bulge occured). I was bored so I went wandering around the town a bit (it's not very big). Found a bar that had a pool table, score! Some local guys were playing, so I put down some local coins for my spot.

The guy I end up playing, all he speaks is French, and I don't speak a lick. But somehow, through gesturing and pointing and head shaking/nodding, he gets the rules across to me, including the bank-the-eight local rule. It was funny :)
 
JoeyInCali said:
IF you scratch on the break, you already lost.
It's ok to scoop the cueball with the ferrule.
The 8 ball has to go in CLEAN.
If the 8-ball is in the kitchen and your opponent scratched. You have to shoot down the rail to make the 8-ball ( kick at it ).



I like the straight in shot you have and the obvious shark tactic, "where you Goin'??????????" Oh um,....wherever it falls. :rolleyes: then I'm stuck calling every pocket before every shot. " 3 ....corner, 7 ball in the side....etc. 8 ball off the rail...:cool: " I could do some real damage there gambling if I couldn't play a lick. :p
 
fred_in_hoboken said:
Except for the BIH, that's apparently standard English eight ball rules.
http://www.epa.org.uk/wrules.php

What happens if you foul on your first "visit"- do you still get your second "visit", and then your opponent gets two?

These are the standard competition rules in England, Australia, Ireland, Scottland and a few other countries. I played most my pool under these rules and they are pretty good rules for the tables we play on (tight pockets). But I do prefer pool on US tables with BIH rules as it is a more aggressive game.

To answer your question, if you foul when you have 2 visits, you lose them both and the opponent gets 2 visits.

The game is more strategical as pocketing the opponent's ball is a foul, even when you hit your own ball first. This combined with tight pockets that make it hard to pot balls down rails, invite a lot of pocket covering and subsequent tactical battles around the control of pockets. Quite often a player will deliberately foul and give away 2 visits to gain control over a pocket.

When playing a deliberate foul, you usually attempt to leave the CB in a position so that the player's first shot is very hard as they must play from where the CB finishes, or from the baulk area if it is a scratch.

If the opponent cannot hit both sides of at least one of his balls after a foul, he is awarded a foul snooker, which means he can nominate the opponent's ball as one of his own. This makes for some real chess like battles and some fine control of clusters of balls around pockets.

At the higher levels of the game it is still basically a run out game with an occassional tactical battle, but at league levels where players aren't confident of running their last few balls, there is a lot of strategy play.

Many of the top level players in this game are very accurate shooters with strong snooker backgrounds. A few of the IPT players have been world champions in this 2-shot form of 8-ball. Mick Hill, Darren Appleton and Quinten Hann come to mind.
 
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Was at a local bar and I broke and scratched so the guy says.. "you lost". I tried to explain to him that this was not a rule and he proceeded to tell me how he's a league player and knows ALL the rules. He was pretty agressive about it too.. Then his twin brother comes up and tells me how he knows its not a rule but he has to side with his brother... LMAO
Anyway we played out the game and I won.. :)
That was the first time I've heard that one.

Christine
 
i play in the league for a local bar.it's a friday night league.
when the last game is shot,whoever was the last shooter has the right to the table.
whoever owns the tables calls the rules.we just finished playing league rules so we all choose to keep playing them.the bar patrons hate it.
we tell them you win,you call the rules.
you wouldn't believe how many fights erupt over this.

the only thing i do like about their rules is calling caroms.
 
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