Yeah great idea. Subsidize with what? Pool's massive revenue stream? How will you fund your USBS Gestapo who enforce your rules and regulations with an iron fist?
Just what pool needs. A fascist regime. That'll fix it.
The fix for all pool problems.
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Yeah great idea. Subsidize with what? Pool's massive revenue stream? How will you fund your USBS Gestapo who enforce your rules and regulations with an iron fist?
Just what pool needs. A fascist regime. That'll fix it.
They solve all pool problems.
Of coarse the United States Billiard Society
would need an enforcement division. A
bureau of some kind to adopt and ratify
any and all rules and modifications there of.
This bureau would hire and oversee the
appropriate personnel needed to verify that
each location with a pool table is complying
with the standardized rules and instructional
regulations,as well as overseeing any amateur
or professional tournaments. A portion of each
tournament registration fee with an equal
portion from all members of any pool league or
organization as well as cash prize portions will
be used to fund such an enforcement division.
would need an enforcement division. A
bureau of some kind to adopt and ratify
any and all rules and modifications there of.
This bureau would hire and oversee the
appropriate personnel needed to verify that
each location with a pool table is complying
with the standardized rules and instructional
regulations,as well as overseeing any amateur
or professional tournaments. A portion of each
tournament registration fee with an equal
portion from all members of any pool league or
organization as well as cash prize portions will
be used to fund such an enforcement division.
I guess you're being serious.
You can't legally force a guy to use his equipment a certain way. It's his table. He can use it to play ping pong if he wants.
You also can't control how much he charges. What will you threaten him with if he doesn't comply? Formal economic sanctions? No dessert after dinner? Detention?
If room owners care, they will post real rules prominently at each table or between every other table. Whether "real rules" = BCA, WPA, etc... hardly matters, just as long as it's not behind-the-line-barbox-bullshit.
First though, you have to make the owner give a shit.
Half of them don't train their employees to watch for customers who sit on the tables, smoke over them, or place their drinks on them. They should put up signs but often they don't or it's too small to bother with.
If they don't care enough to protect their own expensive investments, why will they make standardization a priority?
You can't legally force a guy to use his equipment a certain way. It's his table. He can use it to play ping pong if he wants.
You also can't control how much he charges. What will you threaten him with if he doesn't comply? Formal economic sanctions? No dessert after dinner? Detention?
If room owners care, they will post real rules prominently at each table or between every other table. Whether "real rules" = BCA, WPA, etc... hardly matters, just as long as it's not behind-the-line-barbox-bullshit.
First though, you have to make the owner give a shit.
Half of them don't train their employees to watch for customers who sit on the tables, smoke over them, or place their drinks on them. They should put up signs but often they don't or it's too small to bother with.
If they don't care enough to protect their own expensive investments, why will they make standardization a priority?
We get told all the time what we can
and can not do with our own equipment.
The health department tells restaurants
what, when, and how. OSHA tells all
employers what they can and can not
do. State liquor boards say who and who
can't sell liquor. The list goes on.
City, county and state regulate all kinds
of activities.
Not one of them withholds dinner! I take that
back, the health department can!
So what is wrong with a few more regulations
for the betterment of all?
and can not do with our own equipment.
The health department tells restaurants
what, when, and how. OSHA tells all
employers what they can and can not
do. State liquor boards say who and who
can't sell liquor. The list goes on.
City, county and state regulate all kinds
of activities.
Not one of them withholds dinner! I take that
back, the health department can!
So what is wrong with a few more regulations
for the betterment of all?
More regulations, and more taxes to pay for it too! That's what we need, more regulation and taxation! And each state can have a Department of Pool and Billiards with an entire cabinet of administrators, inspectors and an enforcement division. Yeah, that's what we need! But really, what we need are bar boxes for $0.25 a game.
I just threw up in my mouth.
Holy... Now what you have there is just scary. I simply disagreed at first because having things so standardized is not my thing... However, having some kind of law enforcement on billiards not only defies common sense, but also... well you can stop there.
The very thought of it makes me want to burn cues and cry. This must be some kind of awful joke...
The very thought of it makes me want to burn cues and cry. This must be some kind of awful joke...
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Jodacus...I don't know what you're smokin' but it must be some killer sh!t. LMAO Naturally the "enforcement division" would have 'shoot to kill' orders for any infraction of your rules.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Poolkiller Clone?
I'm not sure if this is poolkiller or not - I see he's not banned yet - but either way, you guys are taking him way too seriously.
I'm not sure if this is poolkiller or not - I see he's not banned yet - but either way, you guys are taking him way too seriously.
I dunno if you're just stirring the pot or what.
You're not sharp enough to understand the difference between a fire code that protects public safety, and an 8-ball rule that says you can't scoop the cue ball?
If you really need it spelled out, OSHA and liquor boards were created to enforce LAWS. The rules for a game are not the same thing as laws.
In the next lesson, I'll explain the difference between selling year-old rotten meat, and a push foul.
Next week: why the government won't let you give Jagermeister to infants, but will allow you to slop in a ball in 8b.
IF we are all made better off because of
these rules (LAWS) that guarantee
certain standards, why wouldn't the same
theory apply to pool? More standards
insure a better outcome.
Look at the NFL, NHL, baseball, tennis, golf.
Rules and standards across the board,
that are enforced by some form of commission.
People elect politicians to go to Washington
and make more rules (laws), because the politicians
promise it will make most people better off. Right?
Why is pool any different?
No one sells me year old meat. Government
regulation or not.
Why would the mods pull the thread?
No one is being disrespectful.
these rules (LAWS) that guarantee
certain standards, why wouldn't the same
theory apply to pool? More standards
insure a better outcome.
Look at the NFL, NHL, baseball, tennis, golf.
Rules and standards across the board,
that are enforced by some form of commission.
People elect politicians to go to Washington
and make more rules (laws), because the politicians
promise it will make most people better off. Right?
Why is pool any different?
No one sells me year old meat. Government
regulation or not.
Why would the mods pull the thread?
No one is being disrespectful.
Interesting enough, I just came (in a different thread) across a statement that should add to this discussion:
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Originally Posted by TimKrazyMon:
...Ahhh, the betting. Pool, unfortunately, can't even be bet on in Vegas due to players demonstrating they will take a dive. Yes, it's happened...
Comment by skogstokig:
... It's happened in snooker too. And even the slight suspicion of it in snooker RAISES HELL from the governing body, just look at john higgins some year ago. Other bad behaviour is also punished. As with most sports, a certain amount of strong governing and discipline is needed to make it work. its not a democracy, you're in the game or you're not...
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(THREAD TITLE: Why does snooker thrive and pool die? post #34)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimKrazyMon:
...Ahhh, the betting. Pool, unfortunately, can't even be bet on in Vegas due to players demonstrating they will take a dive. Yes, it's happened...
Comment by skogstokig:
... It's happened in snooker too. And even the slight suspicion of it in snooker RAISES HELL from the governing body, just look at john higgins some year ago. Other bad behaviour is also punished. As with most sports, a certain amount of strong governing and discipline is needed to make it work. its not a democracy, you're in the game or you're not...
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No more comment as for now
What it takes.
Pooler,
The question is not who should be the
governing body, the question is, will a
governing body solve the myriad of
pool's problems?
Whether or not one likes the various
pool leagues their relative success is
pretty difficult to argue with. Part of
that successful formula is the standardization
of rules across the country. Like it or
not, it is part of a pretty successful
formula.
The US citizenry seem willing to accept
more and more regulation of their daily
lives by various agencies. Would there
be much resistance to a governing body
for pool in general?
Assuming success is the result
a governing body. Is the freedom to
play by any rules you want more
important than seeing pool succeed
as a major sport?
It is a little surprising to me that more
folks haven't chimed in. It seems to be a
vital question.
Perhaps what is necessary is a "silver
tongued devil". A person that can convince
a substantial number of pool players that
they will be better off with a standardized,
well regulated universal system. He or she does
not really need to know anything about pool but
must be a very good orator and speak about how
"we" can fix pool together.
Pooler,
The question is not who should be the
governing body, the question is, will a
governing body solve the myriad of
pool's problems?
Whether or not one likes the various
pool leagues their relative success is
pretty difficult to argue with. Part of
that successful formula is the standardization
of rules across the country. Like it or
not, it is part of a pretty successful
formula.
The US citizenry seem willing to accept
more and more regulation of their daily
lives by various agencies. Would there
be much resistance to a governing body
for pool in general?
Assuming success is the result
a governing body. Is the freedom to
play by any rules you want more
important than seeing pool succeed
as a major sport?
It is a little surprising to me that more
folks haven't chimed in. It seems to be a
vital question.
Perhaps what is necessary is a "silver
tongued devil". A person that can convince
a substantial number of pool players that
they will be better off with a standardized,
well regulated universal system. He or she does
not really need to know anything about pool but
must be a very good orator and speak about how
"we" can fix pool together.
This one might have some free time come January. He'd likely be receptive to many of your Bolshie ideas.