The Greatest Players

PoolChump said:
I don't believe anybody or anything will improve the popularity of the games of pool until the root problems causing its decline are rectified. :sorry:
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what are the 5 biggest root problems?

i'm gonna get some shut eye and looking forward to continuing this conversation later today
 
Don't blame it on the marketplace .....that's an excuse.

The reality is the industry collectively still resides in cave dwellings.

Apathy, indifference to contemporaneous marketing strategies, total
resistance to change or attempts to modernize thinking, skewed
judgement relying upon emulating competitors rather than differentiating.

Cue makers and case makers are the bait and lures that bring and catch
the fish but my gosh, these folks are still tossing nets hoping to catch a haul.

Augment that with dealers and distributors that think an electronic version of
the Sears catalog for a website will entice new customers & build business.

The industry needs some vision which is hard to do when everyone seems
to essentially be operating with Neanderthal marketing approaches.
 
Drop The Rock said:
I have an issue with this concept. Most of us will think of who did the best in one particular discipline of the game. The way I try to think of it is kind of like DCC.
The guys who win masters of the table are IMO the best PLAYERS. Tournaments can often be a coin toss, and gambling has some merits of measurement, but at the end of the day measuring players from a more "all-around" perspective is the best way to go in my opinion. This is why I consider Alex Pagulayan, Dennis Orcollo, Efren, Shane, Earl, Cory, Daz and some others to be leaps and bounds ahead of some of the "up and coming" pros.

IMO its the all around that makes a player a true champion. There is a reason the MVP in basketball isn't awarded to a player who is good at just one thing say shooting for example otherwise Kobe would have had a few. Its the all around. That to me is the true X Factor and is what defines a champion. The all around ability, their heart and their accomplishments.
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Most of yesterday's American players came up in real pool rooms where older players hung out and all games were played.

We're a product of our opportunities and experiences: Today - if you're a bar-player you're going to playing mostly 8-ball and 9-ball and you're not going to have much opportunity to play 14:1, Snooker, One Pocket, etc.. //// If you're a poolroom player you're probably going to play a lot of one-pocket.

There's exceptions to all this in certain regions: like Kentucky is known for Banks, while some minority communities on the West Coast play a lot of Billiards.

A lot of games faded away when they stopped putting counters on the tables and it became too much trouble to keep score.

We're just becoming more defined depending on where we're comfortable and what we have access to.
 
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Island Drive said:
He played his best 1940-52 per Evelyn.
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to augment that his bio states that he was born in 1913 which would put him in his 50's when he was still taking down the $$$ in Johnson City, 25 +- years after he began playing his best per a credible source
 
John Disque said:
A lot of games faded away when they stopped putting counters on the tables and it became too much trouble to keep score.
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Counters were removed from the rails and all of a sudden "a lot of games" faded away?
wtf
Where do you get this stuff man? Seriously.

Ever heard the phrase "on the wire" ?

ugh. read a book or something, please.
 
I agree with the OP, a champion of one discipline is just that, a champion of one discipline.
 
Mr. Bond said:
Counters were removed from the rails and all of a sudden "a lot of games" faded away?
wtf
Where do you get this stuff man? Seriously.

Ever heard the phrase "on the wire" ?

ugh. read a book or something, please.
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He's banned now anyways so we can all move on
 
I'd have to agree with Mathers. The all around player is the best. Each game teaches you a certain aspect of the game. It puts a tool in your tool bag. The more variations of the game you master the better chances you have at wining at any particular game as when a situation comes up you feel confident in the response needed.

I like Earl Strickland when he is feeling good. When he is right and on it is hard to find a better player. His recent all around match up with Efferin had Earl on top.

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