Don't think this game is played in very many parts of the country, but is popular on the metro east side of St. Louis, called 3-5-8. I have not officially played in the league or any tournaments, so I don't know all off the finer rules, but the basic premise of the game as I have been told is that all balls are neutral (like in banks) and you shoot all balls straight in, you just have to bank your 3rd, 5th, and 8th balls in. Well, about 15-20 years ago, my mentor and I were looking for some drills and games to work on my banking and kicking skills. We basically took 3-5-8 and modified it to where you had to bank all balls in, except you had to kick your 3rd, 5th, and 8th balls in. We didn't consider balls close to the rail and going rail first as a kick shot. The ball needed to be off the rail enough such that it was just a simple rail first shot. Now that I have given the background to the story, my mentor broke, pocketed a ball (spotted after turn at table like in banks), basically had no shot as he ended up behind a ball, and tried a flyer kick/bank shot. I missed my first bank attempt and he proceeded to run out from there. All 15 balls on a bar table, made a bank/bank/kick/bank/kick/bank/bank/kick all in succession. Pretty amazing feat and he admitted after making the second kick, he was bearing down as if he was playing a $5000 set because he knew that this was probably the one and only time we was going to have a shot at running the table playing like this.