The Old Days

lstevedus

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My first exposure to a "real" pool room. It was behind a men's clothing store. Been there about a 100 yrs, for real. Really fast tables with leather drop pockets. The "game" was one pocket. This was the early 70's. There was a black guy who racked the balls and wore a leather apron. He charged by the game. There was also usually some kind of card game going. The men playing cards were usually men of substance. They owned their own business or were bankers, lawyers and such.

Church pews against the walls served for seating, and usually there were a few guys filling out their racing forms or studying them or whatever. There were beads on wires that hung across the room to keep score of the various games going on. Players left sacks of money laying around and never worried about it. (Try imaging that happening today, right.)

This was where I played when I was a young man. I'm sorry you young guys missed it. I'm glad I didn't.

SteveD
 
My first exposure to a "real" pool room. It was behind a men's clothing store. Been there about a 100 yrs, for real. Really fast tables with leather drop pockets. The "game" was one pocket. This was the early 70's. There was a black guy who racked the balls and wore a leather apron. He charged by the game. There was also usually some kind of card game going. The men playing cards were usually men of substance. They owned their own business or were bankers, lawyers and such.

Church pews against the walls served for seating, and usually there were a few guys filling out their racing forms or studying them or whatever. There were beads on wires that hung across the room to keep score of the various games going on. Players left sacks of money laying around and never worried about it. (Try imaging that happening today, right.)

This was where I played when I was a young man. I'm sorry you young guys missed it. I'm glad I didn't.

SteveD

Amen brother
 
Rub it in why don't ya! :-) good to hear you had a good experience, won't find rooms like that where I am from. There is one close to being kind of like that but it's 45 miles south, just far enough to be a pain in the ass.
 
My first exposure to a "real" pool room. It was behind a men's clothing store. Been there about a 100 yrs, for real. Really fast tables with leather drop pockets. The "game" was one pocket. This was the early 70's. There was a black guy who racked the balls and wore a leather apron. He charged by the game. There was also usually some kind of card game going. The men playing cards were usually men of substance. They owned their own business or were bankers, lawyers and such.

Church pews against the walls served for seating, and usually there were a few guys filling out their racing forms or studying them or whatever. There were beads on wires that hung across the room to keep score of the various games going on. Players left sacks of money laying around and never worried about it. (Try imaging that happening today, right.)

This was where I played when I was a young man. I'm sorry you young guys missed it. I'm glad I didn't.

SteveD

You can't even leave a piece of decent chalk on a table for 2 minutes these days. Let alone a piece that is worth $25.

I feel fortunate I have not lost anything while I was in the bathroom.

I am only 31 but I was taught the old fashion way, IF ITS NOT YOURS LEAVE IT ALONE, unless you want to get a beating.
 
Old school feel in Sacramento, CA

Men of substance/businessmen. Those characters always frequent poolrooms, lol.

Not quite as old but been around since '68 or '69, w/ lots of old school charm is The Jointed Cue in Sacramento. I didn't start hanging around regularly until the mid to late '90's. I worked there part-time for a few years (mostly to get free table time). I know there is lots of history here I just wasn't old enough to experience most of it.

There is something that looks like a smoke ring near the upper parts of the walls. Littered with hand-painted antique signage on pool etiquette and funny pool pics. The place has a few bench-type church pews near 3, 3-cushion billiard tables. 1 older model, and 2 others recently replaced with the heated variety. And the rest 9-ft Gold Crowns (II's, III's and IV's). Antique movie theater seats, in the tournament room, and score placards from old tournaments from the late 60's & 70's. Pictures on the walls of players that came through back then, Rempe, Sigel, Mataya, Cole Dixon, Hopkins, Buddy Hall, Davenport, and some older names (that escape me) probably on the tail end of their pool careers. And more recently occasional weekly tournament entrants such as Rafael Martinez, Tony Chohan, Amar Kang (although not as much lately). Some of the Filipino greats have rolled through when they were playing the Reno Open/Hard Times Jamboree. There is one 'unknown' monster that doesn't play much at all, who might have been able to hang w/ them, needless to say those guys were left alone. I heard stories in the olden days players here used to bet it up, not so much now.

Guys like to play dominoes now. Learned to play Backgammon here. Pitched quarters. Hold 'Em used to be played after hours, w/ staff and the 'regulars'. Bets on chess and checker games. Guys would bet on foot races around the building (hi-larious stuff). Still have and use beaded wires for action and tournament scoring. A few guys pull double duty at the track as well.

$70 monthly membership (last I checked). Daily cheap action $20 sets, just ask around or speak to staff and someone will accommodate you. (Action on Table 10, scotch doubles or one on one. 9-ball, 1-hole, or straight pool in the back room). Good way to learn a few things and up your game. (Or maybe get gas money, if you're any good.) I 'paid' for my 'education'.

Owned and operated by the same family since inception, Terry passed awhile back, so the biz was passed down to son Dave. There's a cue repair shop you can see thru the front window and as soon as you walk in. Terry used to make cues, Dave also does some bang up repairs. The (43rd was this year) Annual Tournament in memoriam of Terry happens late March every year, is a 2 day tournament, averages near 100 players, $60 entry fee total, and 1st place usually pays about $1K.

At the food counter are padded turnstile stools. The grill has been going I think since very early on, and the food is excellent here. The burgers and fries are great. Not to mention tuna sandwiches grilled or toasted, german sausage sandwiches on a burger bun or a curly hot dog on a hamburger bun as well. Chili is made in the winter to add to any of those orders as well. Oh and breakfast at open (9AM) is better than Denny's or IHOP (is that saying much? well it's good anyway).

Not too many pool halls like this. The old 'tank' fridge conked out and was replaced by a new stainless steel model, the picture tube tv replaced w/ a flat screen and a new jukebox were all replaced in the last 5 years (things break). But the pool hall still has the old days 'feel' that the OP is posting about. Across the city is another more modern pool hall, with bigger action, brighter lights and newer model Gold Crown's but if you're in town and want that old school feel The Jointed Cue is where you'll find it.
 
Soda pop was in bottles. The floor was wood and there were burn marks on the rails from laying cigarettes down on the tables. When you were finished with a game you yelled out "rack", and the guy came over and reracked the balls and took your money, and there was only one restroom because ladies didn't frequent such places. How am I doing so far? :)
 
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Soda pop was in bottles, right? The floor was wood and there were burn marks on the rails from laying cigarettes down on the tables. When you were finished with a game you yelled out "rack", and the guy came over and reracked the balls and took your money. And, there was only one restroom because ladies didn't frequent such places. How am I doing so far? :)

One of my old places had spitoons about every ten feet on both sides of the room. They held about a gallon. Two rooms on same block. And of course the old guy that shook like a leaf but played really well. Nothing but snooker tables. Never played eight ball and didn't play on a pool table till I was drafted into the Army. Gas was $.19 a gallon and they had gas wars!
 
tramp steamer is really close. in the late 60's, the only pool room in town was up some old wooden stairs, old wooden, creaking floors. i think it was 10cents/game. and yes, we yelled, "rack", and threw the dime on the table. leather pockets, 6 tables, 2 spittoons and only played one pocket or straight pool. well, sometimes "bank". the good ole days, no doubt! no music, only the souund of the balls dropping into leather pockets, music to my ears!
 
tramp steamer is really close. in the late 60's, the only pool room in town was up some old wooden stairs, old wooden, creaking floors. i think it was 10cents/game. and yes, we yelled, "rack", and threw the dime on the table. leather pockets, 6 tables, 2 spittoons and only played one pocket or straight pool. well, sometimes "bank". the good ole days, no doubt! no music, only the souund of the balls dropping into leather pockets, music to my ears!

I used to play in Evan's (pronounced E-von) in NYC on 7th street in the Lower East Side. In the front room there were a series of 7 foot tables and the older Russian/Ukrainian/Polish guys would play 8 ball for 5 cents a game. You would always hear one of them yelling "rack em". In the back room were two 9 foot tables and they were either 25 or 50 cents/hour (don't remember which). Us youger guys would play on them. This goes back to the late 1940's. Otherwise, the rooms were as described by "Tramp Steamer" and "OldTimer". Once in a great while we'd catch the subway up to 42nd street exit and climb up the stairs to "Ames Poolroom". Now that's a whole other story.
 
Ahhhh yes, the "old days"........

My first experience with a pool hall wasn't all that good nor interesting because,,,,,well, I couldn't get in the darn place. I was too young (had to be 21). It was the mid 60's, downtown Arlington, Texas (when Main Street downtown Arlington was about three blocks of brick storefronts w/concrete stairs going up into the buildings). There was an "old school" poolhall two doors down from where the hobby shop where I purchased my model planes/cars was. I was about 12-13 years old. It was a place that held mysteries to me. My brother and I used to sit on the concrete stairs in front of the poolhall just wishin' we could get in. The sound of the balls clacking together coupled with the fact that we couldn't go in made the place more alluring to us. Looking in the door I remember seeing about 6 or 7 green-felted tables with leather drop-pockets running from front to back in a nice orderly row the length of the building, racks of cues hanging on the walls, and a constant stream of cigarette smoke curling upwards into the rafters. Two wooden w/glass windowed doors were always being propped open for ventilation (I guess). There were plenty of rough-looking men in there, enough that kinda made me glad I wasn't allowed to go in anyways. "Dapper" does not describe the way most of them were dressed. I spent more than a few Saturday afternoons sitting in front of that place wishing I could find out more about the game they were all playing.

I believe it was the very next summer (1967) when I made my trip to Pennsylvania with my Dad and got my first taste of what shooting pool was all about, but.....that's another story (and one I've told before on this forum).

Maniac
 
My first exposure to a "real" pool room. It was behind a men's clothing store. Been there about a 100 yrs, for real. Really fast tables with leather drop pockets. The "game" was one pocket. This was the early 70's. There was a black guy who racked the balls and wore a leather apron. He charged by the game. There was also usually some kind of card game going. The men playing cards were usually men of substance. They owned their own business or were bankers, lawyers and such.

Church pews against the walls served for seating, and usually there were a few guys filling out their racing forms or studying them or whatever. There were beads on wires that hung across the room to keep score of the various games going on. Players left sacks of money laying around and never worried about it. (Try imaging that happening today, right.)

This was where I played when I was a young man. I'm sorry you young guys missed it. I'm glad I didn't.

SteveD
What you describe would be hard to find now a days. Most of us grew up learning to play in bowling alleys with the more modern atmosphere. I have been in quite a few places like you describe though. Bakers in Tampa Florida had the old time charm. One that sticks out in my mind was in NC. I just found it when I got off the highway to get gas. I pulled in the station, this is maybe 1973, and there was no one around. Then I see this guy running my way and asked if I wanted gas. After he filled it up I saw where he had come from, it was a pool room. Seems he only comes to the station when he see a car pull in the rest of the time he is in the pool room. Of course I wander over and it was like the Twilight Zone. It was 1973 outside but inside the calendar had stopped somewhere in the 1930's. The tables were all wood with huge wood cue racks on the walls. It had a shoe shine stand with an old black guy sitting there waiting to give you a shine between racking balls.

Everywhere you looked the place showed age and ware. I sat in a chair and began watching a ring game of rotation. I doubt many strangers ever came in because I attracted a bit of attention. It may have been my looks though, my shoulder length hair, red white and blue bell bottoms and T-shirt with Hollywood dog track on it. They were on the other hand mostly in bib overalls and looked like they were ordered up by a casting studio to play small town residents. It was unreal. To make a long story short I spent the rest of the day there talking playing and in general losing myself in the place and these nice people that were so different from anyone I knew.

The black guy was very interesting. He told me except for his time in the army during world war 2 the only job he even had was in the pool room. I wish I had had a camera because This place was something else. The place had about a dozen tables and looked like at one time the building may have been a church. I never forgot this place I think it was Rocky Mount NC if I remember correctly. I have often wondered if it can possibly still be there.
 
The Good Old Days a G O N E, and Pool Room for the MOST PART are also G O N E

The Good Old Days a G O N E, and Pool Room for the MOST PART are also G O N E.

Pool today is play at home, in Private Community Rooms, and BARS, and Sports BARS for the most part that are in business, to sell Booze, and Pool is just a Second Fiddle to the Booze Sales, and Booze pays the bills.

Housemen who cleaned Tables, Balls, House Cue Sticks are also mostly gone, or shall we say not spending much time CLEANING.

The World is, or has change for the worst IMHO, and I do not see America getting better until American's change their mind set.

Kids who use to hang out by the doors of the Pool Room waiting to be of age to enter, are play WII, Video Games, Text Messaging, and having SEX with Condoms the Elementary School Nurse provided.:dance:

I too miss the good old days.:shocked2:
 
My first exposure to a "real" pool room. It was behind a men's clothing store. Been there about a 100 yrs, for real. Really fast tables with leather drop pockets. The "game" was one pocket. This was the early 70's. There was a black guy who racked the balls and wore a leather apron. He charged by the game. There was also usually some kind of card game going. The men playing cards were usually men of substance. They owned their own business or were bankers, lawyers and such.

Church pews against the walls served for seating, and usually there were a few guys filling out their racing forms or studying them or whatever. There were beads on wires that hung across the room to keep score of the various games going on. Players left sacks of money laying around and never worried about it. (Try imaging that happening today, right.)

This was where I played when I was a young man. I'm sorry you young guys missed it. I'm glad I didn't.

SteveD

My last taste of that environment was LaTorre's in Pittston, Pa. It was a "classic" pool room in every sense of the word. Smoke-filled, card games in the back, etc. Lou Butera played there, but that was a little before my time.
 
Soda pop was in bottles, right? The floor was wood and there were burn marks on the rails from laying cigarettes down on the tables. When you were finished with a game you yelled out "rack", and the guy came over and reracked the balls and took your money. And, there was only one restroom because ladies didn't frequent such places. How am I doing so far? :)

I had forgotten about some of the details. There was only one restroom and a shoe shine chair against one wall. Lunch time was busy cause guys came in to play pool on their lunch hour. Never saw a woman in there. Never saw any trouble either. No music. Just guys playing pool. Thanks for reminding me.
 
Soda pop was in bottles, right? The floor was wood and there were burn marks on the rails from laying cigarettes down on the tables. When you were finished with a game you yelled out "rack", and the guy came over and reracked the balls and took your money. And, there was only one restroom because ladies didn't frequent such places. How am I doing so far? :)

You just perfectly described Pete's...the first pool room I ever found my way into, back on Mechanic St in a little town in upstate NY.

No juke box, but the Yankee's game could often be heard quitely from a radio behind the counter. And the soft drink cooler, you had to grab the bottle by the top, and slide it along the cooler until you got it to the place where you could get the whole bottle out!

Steve
 
If we could only turn back time... maybe I am getting old but I sure do miss the days mentioned in this thread. Thanks for russling some old memories.
 
You just perfectly described Pete's...the first pool room I ever found my way into, back on Mechanic St in a little town in upstate NY.

No juke box, but the Yankee's game could often be heard quitely from a radio behind the counter. And the soft drink cooler, you had to grab the bottle by the top, and slide it along the cooler until you got it to the place where you could get the whole bottle out!

Steve

This is like being in Mr. Peabody's "wayback machine", Steve.
Joe's Pool Hall was my first. Two Snooker tables and four full size pocket billiard tables, with webbed pockets.
Sodas were fifteen cents and a great thing to do on a hot summer's day was to buy a bottle of Pepsi and a small five cent bag of Planters peanuts. Take a swig or three from the Pepsi and then fill the neck of the bottle up with peanuts. Gooooood!
Maybe my imagination is getting the best of me here, but now that you mentioned it, Joe had a small radio behind the counter and in the summer would listen to St. Louis Cardinal's baseball. :)
 
Maybe my imagination is getting the best of me here, but now that you mentioned it, Joe had a small radio behind the counter and in the summer would listen to St. Louis Cardinal's baseball. :)


KMOX in St. Louis broadcast the games with Curt Gowdy and Harry Carey when I grew up in the 50s and 60s while living in Memphis, TN.

The first pool hall I remember was really in a bowling ally downstairs in the Northgate Shopping. We were on a waiting list for lanes and the counter guy said it would only cost us 50 cents each to play pool for an hour or so. I was either 16 or 17 years old and have been hooked ever since. None of us knew what we were doing except, you make a ball you keep shooting.
 
Old Rooms

We had a great place in Big Spring, TX., the Cue & Triangle operated by the McMullen family. They had 9ft. tables, 5x10 Snooker tables and two 6x12 Snooker tables at the front. It opened in 1963 or 1964, pool halls were illegal in Texas at the time and all the bars had shuffleboard tables no pool tables, that's where the gambling action took place.

What a great place, when I got out of the Army in 1967 I went to Pittsburgh, Pa. and played in a place called the Hawk's Nest run by a guy named Bernie Schwartz, I think. He let me play because I was from Texas and he knew Puckett.

I also played at the old Cotton Bowl Palace and Times Square Cue Club in Dallas. The memories were great, young people should build memories.

Later
 
My first experience with a pool hall wasn't all that good nor interesting because,,,,,well, I couldn't get in the darn place. I was too young (had to be 21). It was the mid 60's, downtown Arlington, Texas (when Main Street downtown Arlington was about three blocks of brick storefronts w/concrete stairs going up into the buildings). There was an "old school" poolhall two doors down from where the hobby shop where I purchased my model planes/cars was. I was about 12-13 years old. It was a place that held mysteries to me. My brother and I used to sit on the concrete stairs in front of the poolhall just wishin' we could get in. The sound of the balls clacking together coupled with the fact that we couldn't go in made the place more alluring to us. Looking in the door I remember seeing about 6 or 7 green-felted tables with leather drop-pockets running from front to back in a nice orderly row the length of the building, racks of cues hanging on the walls, and a constant stream of cigarette smoke curling upwards into the rafters. Two wooden w/glass windowed doors were always being propped open for ventilation (I guess). There were plenty of rough-looking men in there, enough that kinda made me glad I wasn't allowed to go in anyways. "Dapper" does not describe the way most of them were dressed. I spent more than a few Saturday afternoons sitting in front of that place wishing I could find out more about the game they were all playing.

I believe it was the very next summer (1967) when I made my trip to Pennsylvania with my Dad and got my first taste of what shooting pool was all about, but.....that's another story (and one I've told before on this forum).

Maniac




1967 ? My parents bought their first brand new car in 65 , in Grapevine , my Dad was about 50 i think , but i went with riding up and down Division when it was loaded with car dealers . They were having a gas war in Arlington and gas was 18 cents a gallon .:grin:


Wonder why you had to be 21 , was Arlington wet then ? We had 2 pool rooms in McKinney ,
 
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