The oldest guy to run a hundred balls?
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poolmouse said:Ahh...my mistake, I took "I suspect that Jimmy Moore is the oldest man to ever run a hundred balls." as meaning he's still running balls.
Who are the top players in the Albuquerque area?
Poolmouse
Its been a while since I was up there, but Louie Roybal and Wil Maestas hit them pretty good.
ghostball said:
Dude, ain't you from Jersey?
jay helfert said:
Hal Houle too? Though I guess he isn't the same caliber as the others, he claims to have taken lessons from Greenleaf and to have played with him.
Yeah, Wayne will take that great head of hair to his grave. It's white now but still as full as ever. Still runs a hundred every month or so.
Danny K
Danny K
The 14.1 Ring game
Have you guys heard of the ring game in 14.1?
4-6 guys meet every week (or month). They each put in an agreed 'ante' amount, say $50 or $100. They draw peas for shooting order. Each player gets 2 chances. You get matched up randomly and play to 150. The highest runs are recorded. If any player runs a 100, he wins 75% of the money, and 2nd high run gets 25%. If at the end of so many times, say 4 different times playing, no one runs a 100, then high run gets 60% of the money and 2nd high run gets 40%.
Have you guys heard of the ring game in 14.1?
4-6 guys meet every week (or month). They each put in an agreed 'ante' amount, say $50 or $100. They draw peas for shooting order. Each player gets 2 chances. You get matched up randomly and play to 150. The highest runs are recorded. If any player runs a 100, he wins 75% of the money, and 2nd high run gets 25%. If at the end of so many times, say 4 different times playing, no one runs a 100, then high run gets 60% of the money and 2nd high run gets 40%.
Does anyone know how old Rotation Slim was? My grandfather has him in his notes. I have no information on him just a couple times his name showed up in my grandfather's notes or correspondence. How good did Slim play? anyone please chime in (Freddy the beard, Grady, Terry Ardeno, Jay Helfert, etc) I am a bit curious. Anyone know his real name, era, etc?
huckster said:
Huck,
George "Rotation Slim" Hairston was born in 1893. In various sources, he was either born in Williamson, W.Va or Martinsville, Va. In 1914, he left the tobacco fields in which he and his family worked and embarked on a long, and I mean very long, road career. He may have been the first black full time road man. In fact, off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone else who could contend with him for that title. (James Evans was a little later)
In an era where 14.1 and 9 ball were the main games, "Slim"'s specialty was rotation, thus his nick name. He was never known to have a backer and traveled mostly alone. When he first started out, he rode the rails and later, bus's. He ended up with his own Cadillac, a fact that he was very proud of.
An interesting thing happened to him in 1957. He was involved in an auto accident and ended up suing the other driver, claiming that his injuries prevented him from "applying his profession (pool hustler) in a profitable manner. Believe it or not, he WON the case!
I live in southwestern Pa. between Pittsburgh and Wheeling, WVa. In a town called Claysville, Pa, there lives a man named Dave "Super Dave" Williams who is close to 80 years old. He's been my pal and table man for a long time. He used to own a poolroom in Claysville and says that Slim would come thru every once in a while. He described him as very quiet and dignified, especially when playing. He would come in, take off his coat and just sit down somewhere until he was approached. He then moved real slow around the tables, often appearing in pain. (From the effects of the auto accident?) Dave says he never saw him lose, so he was still pretty strong even later on in life.
Tom Shaw of Pool & Billiard Magazine and I often talk about what we've found out lately about some of these old players. Last month, we happened to be talking about "Slim" and I mentioned that I have some info that he ended up dying in Erie, Pa. where I also heard from other sources that he finally retired to when he could no longer play.
Like James Evans, we're probably never going to be able to know just how good he really was. Time has a tendacy to make the legendary status of any player grow even larger, with hyperbole and what not. If you want my opinion on his speed, I would say that he was probably, at his peak, under your grandfather in all games. Although I'm not certain that Don played rotation, his prowness in 14.1 and 9 ball would help carry the day for him. From what I've gathered, Rotation Slim was never really interested in "the big score" as much as he just loved the idea that he could live day to day and week to week from his pool skills. He seemed to have been more of a content person than the prototypical hustler.
sjm said:
SJM,
Right you are, as per usual!
Eugene "Johnny" Ervolino was born on Nov 25, 1934 and died on Feb 19, 2005. His all time high run was 361, but, in 2001, in an exhibition against Phil McCurdy, the "Velvet Foghorn" (I always loved that moniker) ran 333.
Joey "Apples" Campagnone was the manager at the Billiard Emporium when it happened.
catscradle said:
Was Hal Houle a player or author? I don't remember ever hearing his name as a player but I do recall something about a book he wrote?
rayjay said:I have the original, but it's not for sale. It was used by the Albuquerque Journal newspaper for a write up for Jimmy's 80th birthday. You can copy and paste the above photo and print it out, though.
Original photographs can be scanned with incredible clarity and prints can be made from that. Collection Guru may be interested in a high res copy.
Just a thought....
JoeyA
JoeyA said:
Joey,
You are so kind.
To quote Grady "Well, thank you my friend for those glowing accolades."
JoeyA said:
I think it was a 336 run in the early 2000's...the run matched George Mecula's 336 ball run (he was also in his 60's) back at the original Chelsea Billiards in the early 90's. Interesting, a few years earlier Johnny ran a 252 to match Ginky's high run as well (Johnny was in his late 60's by then). Almost makes you wonder if he missed on purpose after matching the high run of his collegues.
Poolmouse