Things That Make You Go Hmm !

Bob Jewett said:
Of course referees must not rely on vague memories when written rules are available. Here is the pertinent section for snooker:

5. Playing from In-hand ​
To play from in-hand, the cue-ball must be contacted by the tip of the cue from a position on or within the lines of the “D”, but it may be played in any direction. ​
(a) The referee will state, if asked, whether the cue-ball is properly placed (that is, not outside the lines of the “D”).​
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This means that if the cue-ball is exactly on a line of the D, it is deemed to be legally placed. Further, if the cue-ball is exactly on the yellow or green spot, it is placed legally for playing from in-hand.

It seems that the referee training mentioned above was contrary to this part of the rules.
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Perhaps, but I was explicitly told that the spots are not part of the D. The D is the lines (and arc). The spots are separate from the D and on club tables the spots may be outside of the D. The rule you quote only talks about the lines, not the spots.
All that said, it is clear from the overhead camera that the cue ball was placed outside of the D and the foul was called correctly. Not sure if it should have been a miss as well....
 
drsnooker said:
... The rule you quote only talks about the lines, not the spots. ...
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I believe the yellow and green spots are on two lines, a curved one and a straight one. It would make no sense to exclude their intersection.

As for the overhead view, the camera will make any ball look like it is farther away from the center of the view than it actually is. I don't know how much error that introduced to the image we saw, but I wouldn't want to make any conclusion until I understood that better.

Vafaei of course should have asked when he placed the ball close -- there is no good recourse once he has shot.
 
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Okay I think I finally understand the issue... The intersection IS part of the D. However, the spot is not necessarily at the intersection. A good example was the PanAmerican snooker championships in Montreal earlier this month. The spots were indicated by a sticker placed on the cloth. You do not see that in the pros. But on club tables, owners do this all the time to increase the time between redo-ing the tables.

I agree with your point about TV cameras. And the actual referee has much better than 4K vision and had the absolute best view of the location of the cue ball. But if one wants to disagree with the ref (for some reason) you need to do better than "I don't like the BLANK, therefore it is incorrect". "I reject your reality and substitute my own" was cute when Adam Savage used it, but seems to cause a whole lot of uncivilized discourse these days.
 
Further analyses of the incident with Hossein, plus some other interesting rule tidbits that don't come up a lot.

 
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drsnooker said:
Further analyses of the incident with Hussein, plus some other interesting rule tidbits that don't come up a lot.

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Interesting video. I think we still can't be certain about the D foul placement.

In the case of the dropping red at 5:37, pool has a specific waiting time for the shot to end when a ball is hanging on the brink. It is five seconds after the balls (apparently) stop moving. In the case in the video, the time -- if the video timing is accurate -- was 4.6 seconds, so by the pool rule the red should be replaced.
 

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World Snooker Tour official on Crucible speculation: "I don't know why there is talk. It's just a bit wild" :​


www.totallysnookered.com

World Snooker Tour official on Crucible speculation: "It's just a bit wild"

Speculation surrounding the future home of the World Snooker Championship continues to rumble on, but it appears that rumours of Saudi Arabia or China having already bid for the rights of the sport’s blue riband event are just hearsay.
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Snooker star handed ban and five-figure fine for 'aggressive and rude behaviour'​

World No.33 Matthew Selt accepted that he was aggressive, abusive and rude at the Saudi Masters in September and has been slapped with a suspended ban and a fine :​


www.mirror.co.uk

Snooker star handed ban and five-figure fine for 'aggressive and rude behaviour'

World No.33 Matthew Selt accepted that he was aggressive, abusive and rude at the Saudi Masters in September and has been slapped with a suspended ban and a fine
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My god give me strength if there is such a thing as a god so this got posted onto my Facebook music thread as I can only think the dude who posted it wanted to bring it to my attention :

Two biological men compete in UK women's pool championship :

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This one got posted on a Facebook darts thread I follow :

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I put the blame on President Barack Obama and his wife Michael for all this crap and the teaching and promoting of transgender crap in US schools .

What do you think ?

 

Ex-snooker champion in court over alleged child sex offences :​


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vn178yjqzo

IN THE DOCK

Former world snooker champion Graeme Dott gives thumbs up as he leaves court appearance on child sex charges :​


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Graeme Dott in thumbs up as snooker hero leaves court date on child sex charges

FORMER snooker champion Graeme Dott gives the thumbs up after his first court appearance on child sex charges. The 47-year-old made the gesture as he left the High Court in Glasgow this morning fol…
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POTTY MOUTH

‘Good players don’t do this’ – Bitter snooker star faces disciplinary action after calling rival ‘s***e’ in fuming post​

Fans have slammed his shocking remarks
  • Published: 12:01, 15 Apr 2025
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'Good players don't do this' - Bitter snooker star faces rap after fuming post

SNOOKER star Tom Ford could face disciplinary action after blasting his opponent’s tactics in a shocking rant. The world No21 suffered a shock 10-7 defeat to Ross Muir in World Championship q…
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