Think I found a reason why it's better to use outside english on cut shots

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I feel I might have stumbled on a reason why it's better to use outside on cut shots, like many do.

I am fearful to share this, because if I actually am right, I don't want to help out my competition.

I'm sure I am not the first to come up with this reasoning, but I don't think it's been shared here as far as I can tell.

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PocketPoint said:
I feel I might have stumbled on a reason why it's better to use outside on cut shots, like many do.

I am fearful to share this, because if I actually am right, I don't want to help out my competition.

I'm sure I am not the first to come up with this reasoning, but I don't think it's been shared here as far as I can tell.

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1) There are plenty of books/threads/resourses discussing this.

2) It's pretty common knowledge that one big advantage is compensating for contact induced throw. There are many other nuances, which I think Dr. Dave and BobJ probably described in one capacity or another. We have many highly educated, very smart, and articulate folks here that give away their "hard earned" information all the time. It's a very open community here and knowledge is freely exchanged.

3) Saying you have "critical" information but don't want to contribute is pretty lame. IMO, it's better to not say anything than your chosen route of patting yourself on the back at the same time you give the rest of us the finger. ;)

Just sayin'.

-td
 
PocketPoint said:
I feel I might have stumbled on a reason why it's better to use outside on cut shots, like many do.

I am fearful to share this, because if I actually am right, I don't want to help out my competition.

I'm sure I am not the first to come up with this reasoning, but I don't think it's been shared here as far as I can tell.

What to do......
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Really? Some truly new information on how or why to shoot a ball a certain way? I gotta hear this :)
 
Well there was a thread on this recently. Many people claimed the best way to make it was with a center ball, or with follow.

I just believe I have reason why it's better to use outside. I'm sure it has been thought of before, I've just not read it on here, or heard anyone talk about it before.
 
Seriously how old are you? How many silly threads are you gonna start to take a shot at center to edge?
 
td873 said:
3) Saying you have "critical" information but don't want to contribute is pretty lame. IMO, it's better to not say anything than your chosen route of patting yourself on the back at the same time you give the rest of us the finger.
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^This.....
 
I do appreciate all the information that people share here. It might not be in my best interest to start trying to help other players, I need all the edge I can get.
 
Because its not a real post. Your just taking another opportunity to make fun of other members. Whatever'... If this is how you get your rocks off have your fun. I reported you to az so if they want to put a stop to it they can. I'm done with your nonsense.
 
trob said:
Because its not a real post. Your just taking another opportunity to make fun of other members. Whatever'... If this is how you get your rocks off have your fun. I reported you to az so if they want to put a stop to it they can. I'm done with your nonsense.
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Just point out who I'm making fun of.
 
trob said:
Because its not a real post. Your just taking another opportunity to make fun of other members. Whatever'... If this is how you get your rocks off have your fun. I reported you to az so if they want to put a stop to it they can. I'm done with your nonsense.
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And this doesn't have anything to do with CTE or aiming. You're being ridiculous this morning.
 
Outside english

Well besides being easier to make the shot, outside english has the biggest advantage of all when shooting at the corner pocketts for most shots, you shoot the shot to over cut it, if you do happen to miss you will have an Auto-Matic Leeve, because the object ball will roll towards the middle of end rail, as opposed to inside english shots where if you misss the object ball , the ball rolls towards the large open side of the table leaving your opponent DEAD OUT, so yes outside english is a most advantageous shot to shoot, if you like tobe a winner and keep your money in your pockett!


David Harcrow
 
catpool9 said:
Well besides being easier to make the shot, outside english has the biggest advantage of all when shooting at the corner pocketts for most shots, you shoot the shot to over cut it, if you do happen to miss you will have an Auto-Matic Leeve, because the object ball will roll towards the middle of end rail, as opposed to inside english shots where if you misss the object ball , the ball rolls towards the large open side of the table leaving your opponent DEAD OUT, so yes outside english is a most advantageous shot to shoot, if you like tobe a winner and keep your money in your pockett!


David Harcrow
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That's good advice. I'm also thinking about how throw affects the OB more with a thicker hit. If you hit the cut shot too thickly, the OB will have relatively more throw, and you can still pocket the ball.

If you hit the ball too thinly, the amount of throw will be less, because of the thinner hit.

If you add the effects of more throw on a thick hit, and less throw on a thin hit, you may have a greater margin for error than with a center ball hit.

I could be completely wrong. Dr. Dave save me!
 
Did you happen to just watch a Rempe straight pool match where he states he had a ball skid on him that cost him a championship in 14.1?

He said he always put a little outside on the cueball after that to counteract any skid that may occur and give him a better chance of not missing.
 
bud green said:
Did you happen to just watch a Rempe straight pool match where he states he had a ball skid on him that cost him a championship in 14.1?

He said he always put a little outside on the cueball after that to counteract any skid that may occur and give him a better chance of not missing.
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That is the main reason that I am aware of, although sometimes doing that still isn't enough to keep the measle ball from skidding.
 
PocketPoint said:
I feel I might have stumbled on a reason why it's better to use outside on cut shots, like many do.

I am fearful to share this, because if I actually am right, I don't want to help out my competition.

I'm sure I am not the first to come up with this reasoning, but I don't think it's been shared here as far as I can tell.

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What does outside english do? lets the ball roll more correctly ,(Kinda helps the ball)That you can aim pretty much at the contact point and use it.(up to a certain angle)No secret there is there?
Speed is a key factor in outside english.
Not to soft not to hard =Practice,,,Maybe
 
No No my reasoning is the relative differences in the amount of throw on a thick hit and a thin hit.

If the amount of throw on an equally overcut and undercut shot is the same, the margin of error will be the same.

The margin of error I gain on the thick hit is greater than the margin of error I lose on the thin hit.

Dr. Dave help me they're like Egyptian protestors today.
 
PocketPoint said:
I feel I might have stumbled on a reason why it's better to use outside on cut shots, like many do.

I am fearful to share this, because if I actually am right, I don't want to help out my competition.

I'm sure I am not the first to come up with this reasoning, but I don't think it's been shared here as far as I can tell.

What to do......
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This game is hundreds of years old. You ain't figured out shit, I promise you :)
 
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