thinking of playing in the BCA state singles
- Thread starter robleyf7
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Good to have confidence. What state?
Interesting thought. First you might find you have to play a minimum of 32 games in a sanctioned BCAPL league. Once you've played those 32 sanctioned games, you might have to find another team in your league with three or four other quality players to even have a chance at the State level. To win Nationals is an art form mastered by very few. Just being good players is not enough! Knowing how much you enjoy overcoming obstacles, go for it!
Lyn
I like your attitude!!!! Soon as I get my one on one with Randy G. and attend Pool School.......I'll head on down to Cajun Country and take it away from ya.....LOL
What will you do if they don't payout the prize money?
I hear that is an ongoing issue for USPPA players. It was an issue for former IPT players. Some delayed payments occurred for US Open high place finishers. More historical issues indicate payments might have been reduced for obscure reasons.
I think about it every time tournaments advertise. Do you want to put all that effort in for a prize that is more myth than reality? I haven't seen the industry respond to ensure players will get their prizes on time and in full.
I hear that is an ongoing issue for USPPA players. It was an issue for former IPT players. Some delayed payments occurred for US Open high place finishers. More historical issues indicate payments might have been reduced for obscure reasons.
I think about it every time tournaments advertise. Do you want to put all that effort in for a prize that is more myth than reality? I haven't seen the industry respond to ensure players will get their prizes on time and in full.
If a BCAPL sanctioned league failed to pay out tournament prize money, my guess is Mark Griffin will step in personally and force the issue. Doubt if that will be the case here. You're creating a problem where none existed
. Was your post really necessary :smash:?Lyn
If a BCAPL sanctioned league failed to pay out tournament prize money, my guess is Mark Griffin will step in personally and force the issue. Doubt if that will be the case here. You're creating a problem where none existed
Lyn
So why not put it in writing. It would be great if players didn't have to rely on his reputation and could rely on something written, or more substantial. Promises and reputations aren't things I can take to the bank.
Mark won't look out for me, so players got to look out for each other.
Why do you have to bring up a facet of the game having nothing to do with robleyf7's original post? I can not think of a single instance where BCAPL players have ever not been paid. Its a non starter. Please let it die!
Lyn
Dude, read his posts in the USPPA thread and you will understand the extent of his ridiculous statements.
Justnum, do yourself a favor and just stop now. As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.
BCAPL payouts
Justnum should change his name to:
1) justDumb
2) numnuts
As far as I am concerned the dude is crazy.
His posts have nothing to do with the topic at hand. . . . .and I take offense to his comments toward me.
If I remember correctly, I am the one that paid the UPA fiasco in Arizona a couple years ago - an event I had nothing to do with.
I also lose $80K at my 'Qlympics'and everyone got paid.
You, my friend are out of line. people like you drive the good people out of pool. What an idiot!
You get my first red.
Mark Griffin
Justnum should change his name to:
1) justDumb
2) numnuts
As far as I am concerned the dude is crazy.
His posts have nothing to do with the topic at hand. . . . .and I take offense to his comments toward me.
If I remember correctly, I am the one that paid the UPA fiasco in Arizona a couple years ago - an event I had nothing to do with.
I also lose $80K at my 'Qlympics'and everyone got paid.
You, my friend are out of line. people like you drive the good people out of pool. What an idiot!
You get my first red.
Mark Griffin
thanks last time i went too the open i come out 5th out of 128 an they moved me too the masters side but havent been there in 3 years so they moved me too the open again so i will win the open an try an win the masters next year
Kevin Trudeau lost a lot more real money with the IPT and he was smart enough to stay out of the pool business.
As for the OP I am pushing players to win, but I hope they prepare themselves for a win without payment. It is becoming a regular thing in today's billiard world.
Rather then wait to hear about the problems, I am suggesting being prepared for them.
As for the OP playing pool is fun being twisted around by promoters' issues aren't.
Get real its the 21st century people have to do smart business people can play ball or talk. You prefer to talk that is fine. If it is so easy then you can make changes to prove it.
Also when KT went bust on the IPT he also put in some of his own cash. I don't see how you have distinguished your business practices from his.
Pool players put a lot of effort into their game at the amateur or pro level. I just hope the OP at the amateur level isn't thinking about how the prize money will change his life. It might give him a different status when playing people.
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Just say you ship it
It was once said "It is better to have people think you're a fool than open your mouth and prove it!" Perhaps you should take that advice.
Must be great to hide behind a screen name and throw stones :angry:. Mark Griffin has done more for the game of pool in the last seven short years than anyone I know of. Don't agree with everything he says or does but he has my respect. Both as a business man and a person. If you're so smart, why don't you give Mark your phone number so he can talk to you. Perhaps face to face would be better but I doubt you have the courage to demean someone in person.
Lyn
For a skeptic like me some promoter is going to go the KT route and talk about past situations.
The IPT disaster hit the billiard community hard. I am not going to let it pass unnoticed and think it won't happen to me.
Preparation for a tournament requires a lot of commitment. Am I interested in going through that for nothing or a reduced payout or a delayed payout? I want some assurances, if a promoter can't provide them then I won't bother.
I like whoever promotes tournaments. But why can't they promote a tournament and provide proof they can deliver what they sell. In business some people need credit. I am not willing to give some promoter credit when most of the industry is struggling.
I have nothing personally against promoters. I just have finances to worry about and decisions to make. I will make decisions that lead to results. I don't want to set myself up to be told something went wrong, something I don't have control over.
Right now I have control over my schedule. The promoter can control whatever they do to run a tournament and make it attractive. But for a skeptic and the billiard environment as it is tournaments need to be more attractive in terms of proving they can deliver.
The IPT disaster hit the billiard community hard. I am not going to let it pass unnoticed and think it won't happen to me.
Preparation for a tournament requires a lot of commitment. Am I interested in going through that for nothing or a reduced payout or a delayed payout? I want some assurances, if a promoter can't provide them then I won't bother.
I like whoever promotes tournaments. But why can't they promote a tournament and provide proof they can deliver what they sell. In business some people need credit. I am not willing to give some promoter credit when most of the industry is struggling.
I have nothing personally against promoters. I just have finances to worry about and decisions to make. I will make decisions that lead to results. I don't want to set myself up to be told something went wrong, something I don't have control over.
Right now I have control over my schedule. The promoter can control whatever they do to run a tournament and make it attractive. But for a skeptic and the billiard environment as it is tournaments need to be more attractive in terms of proving they can deliver.
And what, exactly, does this have to do with the BCA Amateur Nationals? You know, the tourney that the OP was actually talking about?
Or do you simply have an axe to grind about Mark Griffin? or do you just want to stir the stuff in general.
I think I know the answer.
BCA isn't in great shape, as for the BCA Amateur event are the two organizations still tied together, or just by name?
So you admit that you know not what you speak of.
The BCA is a trade organization, primarily. They sold off the league properties to Mark Griffin years ago. There are several threads discussing this.
Anything that involves actually playing the game that refers to BCA is Mark Griffin. BCAPL, to be specific. Considered to be highly successful. Parent company is CSI. They do A LOT. I have never heard a bad thing about any event that they have run, and they run a lot of them.
Anything that is "in trouble" as an organization is the BCA trade organization.
You really need to do more listening and less talking. You have completely hijacked this away from Robleys original thread.
Go get'em, Robley!