Give it a try.
John
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This is a good idea to practice cue straightness of stroke
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Give it a try.
John
hi john
over the years you have given me lots of good advice
thank you
its nice to get to see what you look like.....
interesting that i too just recently realized i tend to line up with the cue pointed left of the shot line but would shoot anyway.
as i have cleaned that up my % unwanted spin has gone way down
thanks for the video
over the years you have given me lots of good advice
thank you
its nice to get to see what you look like.....
interesting that i too just recently realized i tend to line up with the cue pointed left of the shot line but would shoot anyway.
as i have cleaned that up my % unwanted spin has gone way down
thanks for the video
Yeah but delivery isn't about a 2 dimensional forward view = forward delivery solve...
His right hip is awfully far off the shotline, a forward right trajectory from there in setup, can easily come around the corner in forward delivery and square up in 3 dimensional forward timing and one can get all kinds of head scratching results of success and failure.
Anyone left eye dominant and right handed trying this, do what he says he would never do and come in from the RIGHT and just trust it, because this will bring your right hip more closer or on the line and as you take the stick back, you can't or will be less likely to take the stick back "inside" or "inside and up" which are both the kiss of death and where most stroke problems occur, because more times than not, you are seeing the shot correctly from the forward view, it's just that when sequencing into a dress you start to clear the lower extremities too much and now the delivery system sets up for a around the corner move which means you take the stick back inside and now you have no choice but the stroke forward in the grip hand goes outward which pivots the stick inward in the forward delivery and this is what I call a diminished vector, in which even with timing you happen to nail the bullseye, it's only because the tip itself is hitting the intended spot on a cue ball but all the mass behind it being the stick is wavering laterally and not driving the mass of the stick through the bullseye in three-dimensional terms.
His setup proves successful because he's probably only taking the stroke back no more than what equates to be a few inches and anything more than that like 6 to 8 in give or take a few inches I haven't measured those things out exactly but another words a backstroke that feels like it should normally is going to be too much and therefore has no choice but to start coming inside if you are taking it back and what normally feels comfortable because if you take it back on the line from his position it will feel as if you are taking your grip hand back but outside and if done correctly you will not be able to go back very far at all.
Most people naturally do not do what I just described because it is not natural and feel, but I can show you plenty of video evidence in which guys like Ronnie O'Sullivan take it back comfortably and then while back there they redirect the grip hand more towards the outside and then deliver forward but when one does that don't expect a lot of follow through if you do it correctly and this is why you see good strokes that don't follow through what normally is prescribed for a good stroke because Shane Van boning you will often see especially when going low below center have no more than a one inch follow through, thus destroying these notions of follow through = success.
It depends.
But remember the cue ball itself is a container and a vector is a signal of energy transmission and the container itself only obeys what the transmission of energy is signaling.
It's no different than a journeyman carpenter when he drives a nail in on one swing versus the amateur who arks the hammer from the wrist versus the journeyman who drives the mass of the hammerhead more from his elbow where even his Miss hits don't drive the nail in one shot but they still remain straight and unbent unlike the amateur swinging from the wrist where it's pure arching timing etc etc.
Anyone trying this just come from the outside or from the "right" as I said, and see what happens because of course that is the one angle of attack one would never think is going to be correct or more correct I should say in terms of setup it turns out in final address.
His right hip is awfully far off the shotline, a forward right trajectory from there in setup, can easily come around the corner in forward delivery and square up in 3 dimensional forward timing and one can get all kinds of head scratching results of success and failure.
Anyone left eye dominant and right handed trying this, do what he says he would never do and come in from the RIGHT and just trust it, because this will bring your right hip more closer or on the line and as you take the stick back, you can't or will be less likely to take the stick back "inside" or "inside and up" which are both the kiss of death and where most stroke problems occur, because more times than not, you are seeing the shot correctly from the forward view, it's just that when sequencing into a dress you start to clear the lower extremities too much and now the delivery system sets up for a around the corner move which means you take the stick back inside and now you have no choice but the stroke forward in the grip hand goes outward which pivots the stick inward in the forward delivery and this is what I call a diminished vector, in which even with timing you happen to nail the bullseye, it's only because the tip itself is hitting the intended spot on a cue ball but all the mass behind it being the stick is wavering laterally and not driving the mass of the stick through the bullseye in three-dimensional terms.
His setup proves successful because he's probably only taking the stroke back no more than what equates to be a few inches and anything more than that like 6 to 8 in give or take a few inches I haven't measured those things out exactly but another words a backstroke that feels like it should normally is going to be too much and therefore has no choice but to start coming inside if you are taking it back and what normally feels comfortable because if you take it back on the line from his position it will feel as if you are taking your grip hand back but outside and if done correctly you will not be able to go back very far at all.
Most people naturally do not do what I just described because it is not natural and feel, but I can show you plenty of video evidence in which guys like Ronnie O'Sullivan take it back comfortably and then while back there they redirect the grip hand more towards the outside and then deliver forward but when one does that don't expect a lot of follow through if you do it correctly and this is why you see good strokes that don't follow through what normally is prescribed for a good stroke because Shane Van boning you will often see especially when going low below center have no more than a one inch follow through, thus destroying these notions of follow through = success.
It depends.
But remember the cue ball itself is a container and a vector is a signal of energy transmission and the container itself only obeys what the transmission of energy is signaling.
It's no different than a journeyman carpenter when he drives a nail in on one swing versus the amateur who arks the hammer from the wrist versus the journeyman who drives the mass of the hammerhead more from his elbow where even his Miss hits don't drive the nail in one shot but they still remain straight and unbent unlike the amateur swinging from the wrist where it's pure arching timing etc etc.
Anyone trying this just come from the outside or from the "right" as I said, and see what happens because of course that is the one angle of attack one would never think is going to be correct or more correct I should say in terms of setup it turns out in final address.
phreaticus
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Super interesting perspective. Thx for sharing.
The string is a genius idea. I wonder if you could use a mirror instead of a camera & screen.
pj
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The string is a good idea but the laser is better. The laser line goes right up your cue to your hand so you know exactly what is happening. No camera with parallax problems needed. The string even in this video does not cross the donut holes equally so the video isn't accurate, and this is a demonstration video. I don't mean to be overly negative, just trying to get people more interested in using a laser. I learned important things about my stroke instantly and accurately.
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I used to use a plumb bob for hanging wallpaper around Chicago and can tell you OPJ is on to something here. I also overcame the same issue but by doing it slightly differently. When I line up the shot to a corner straight in I want to draw the cue ball back into the corner under my cue.. It may not be exactly dead nuts but I find it works pretty well. Great video of an important part of shooting straight through the ball.. BTW snooker players have there own way of aligning which I use and like as well.