This is why Chess is dead!!!!!!

Lance Link

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1. Majority of chess players are douchebags.
2. Majority of chess players are crybabies.
3. Instead of promoting the sport, the majority of chess players kick it, stomp on it, flip the board over, and spit on it.
4. Majority of chess players think they're GODS, when they're actually scumbags.
-- Are you frickin kidding me???? It's your turn and you move your game piece to put the other player in check and you think theirs something special about you? Wasting your life away obsessed with a game thats never going to make you a lot of money? The countless hours a week you spend practicing so in 10 years all you have to show for it is your ability to say "checkmate" and a toxic liver!!!
5. The few things that are good for the sport, like the knight's moving ability, the majority of chess players bash how bad it is.
-- And I get so sick of hearing that chess is fake; about the wimps acting like Bobby Fischer; GET OVER IT!!!!
6. Oh, did i mention that the majority of chess players are douchebags!!!!

And then yall wonder why chess has such a bad rap & why theirs no money in chess.

LOL this is fun...:rotflmao1::killingme:
 
The OP makes a good point. It's a point I've been making in various threads of similar subject regarding the popularity and success of pool. Promoters blame players , fans blame players and promoters, players blame promoters and fans....

It gets quite nasty. The reality is, there just isn't that much public interest in the U.S.A. for pool. That's it. Very simple. Beating up on the smaller factors doesn't make much sense when that is the core issue. I think some people like to do that because deep down they know there's little to nothing they can do to deal with that reality. Therefore, it's easy to sling blame and hate around at the little things they feel could change. Despite the fact that even if they do, it still won't lead to pool becoming widely popular.

But the believers and the hopefuls come in with their flawed arguments such as "In Taiwan/Philippines/UK" etc cue sports are very popular and on national TV!

Who cares! Last time I checked, the U.S.A. wasn't Taiwan, the Philippines or the UK. Then the argument switches to "yes, but they could be" ....which then transitions to the famous or more accurately infamous IF statement of "if we/they only __________ it would be just as popular here" ...which then goes right into the blame game. Bashing players, promoters, industry and whatnot.


I've written quite a bit why pool isn't popular in America as a professional sport or for viewing. It's a cultural thing. Societal. Pool was never huge in America, but it was popular many decades ago to get national coverage. Ask yourself, what changed since then? A lot.
 
This is why chess is dead

You are mistaken, chess is not dead.
One of the reasons is that the USSR broke up and a lot of the russian machines top players have become citizens of other countries, especially the U.S.
The prizes at some of these tournaments are very large, making it possible for the top players to be millionaires.
The main reason I answered this post was to encourage anyone but especially young players to play chess.
It teaches you to not jump on the first shot you see and to consider alternates.
This is tremendously important in a game like 1 Pocket and even in life it helps to give you the discipline to look for alternatives.
 
You are mistaken, chess is not dead.
One of the reasons is that the USSR broke up and a lot of the russian machines top players have become citizens of other countries, especially the U.S.
The prizes at some of these tournaments are very large, making it possible for the top players to be millionaires.
The main reason I answered this post was to encourage anyone but especially young players to play chess.
It teaches you to not jump on the first shot you see and to consider alternates.
This is tremendously important in a game like 1 Pocket and even in life it helps to give you the discipline to look for alternatives.

It appears that the original "This is why pool is dead" thread has been removed. If that thread were still available, the topic of this thread would make much more sense.
 
It appears that the original "This is why pool is dead" thread has been removed. If that thread were still available, the topic of this thread would make much more sense.

Yeah BC, the OP was being more satirical. I don't think he was really opining on the deadness of chess.

If Lance were to be taken seriously we would have red repped him into oblivion for not posting this in the NPR forum. :rotflmao:

BTW, anyone know what happened in that thread? I just posted in there a couple of hours ago.
 
The OP makes a good point. It's a point I've been making in various threads of similar subject regarding the popularity and success of pool. Promoters blame players , fans blame players and promoters, players blame promoters and fans....

It gets quite nasty. The reality is, there just isn't that much public interest in the U.S.A. for pool. That's it. Very simple. Beating up on the smaller factors doesn't make much sense when that is the core issue. I think some people like to do that because deep down they know there's little to nothing they can do to deal with that reality. Therefore, it's easy to sling blame and hate around at the little things they feel could change. Despite the fact that even if they do, it still won't lead to pool becoming widely popular.

But the believers and the hopefuls come in with their flawed arguments such as "In Taiwan/Philippines/UK" etc cue sports are very popular and on national TV!

Who cares! Last time I checked, the U.S.A. wasn't Taiwan, the Philippines or the UK. Then the argument switches to "yes, but they could be" ....which then transitions to the famous or more accurately infamous IF statement of "if we/they only __________ it would be just as popular here" ...which then goes right into the blame game. Bashing players, promoters, industry and whatnot.


I've written quite a bit why pool isn't popular in America as a professional sport or for viewing. It's a cultural thing. Societal. Pool was never huge in America, but it was popular many decades ago to get national coverage. Ask yourself, what changed since then? A lot.

Please tell this to 35+ million people who play pool every year, or the ten million league members nationwide. They need to know that they are participating in a very unpopular sport. Maybe then they will take up chess instead.

Oh, I forgot the dozens of regional tours and tournaments that are thriving all across the USA, drawing good fields of players, and paying out some decent prize money. And maybe the 256 players who played in the recent U.S. Open need to hear about this.

Or how about the thousands who show up to watch the U.S. Open and Derby City or attend the Super Billiards Expo. I guess they don't count either. My point being there is a lot of interest in this "unpopular" sport.

I forgot one other small group. The tens of thousands who visit AZ Billiards every year. Over a million visitors so far and counting! Too bad pool is so unpopular, otherwise everybody would be doing it.

Has anyone told you that more people play pool in America than either golf or tennis. But I guess you would say they are also unpopular with the public. No public interest in pool? HOGWASH!
 
The #1 chessplayer in the world makes more in one year, then most pool players make in their lifetime.

Viswanathan Anand defended his world championship title and won $1.2 million euros for the championship match.

That's more the the whole AZ men's money list combined for the top guy for just one match.

Chess ROCKS!
 
The OP makes a good point. It's a point I've been making in various threads of similar subject regarding the popularity and success of pool. Promoters blame players , fans blame players and promoters, players blame promoters and fans....

It gets quite nasty. The reality is, there just isn't that much public interest in the U.S.A. for pool. That's it. Very simple. Beating up on the smaller factors doesn't make much sense when that is the core issue. I think some people like to do that because deep down they know there's little to nothing they can do to deal with that reality. Therefore, it's easy to sling blame and hate around at the little things they feel could change. Despite the fact that even if they do, it still won't lead to pool becoming widely popular.

But the believers and the hopefuls come in with their flawed arguments such as "In Taiwan/Philippines/UK" etc cue sports are very popular and on national TV!

Who cares! Last time I checked, the U.S.A. wasn't Taiwan, the Philippines or the UK. Then the argument switches to "yes, but they could be" ....which then transitions to the famous or more accurately infamous IF statement of "if we/they only __________ it would be just as popular here" ...which then goes right into the blame game. Bashing players, promoters, industry and whatnot.


I've written quite a bit why pool isn't popular in America as a professional sport or for viewing. It's a cultural thing. Societal. Pool was never huge in America, but it was popular many decades ago to get national coverage. Ask yourself, what changed since then? A lot.

This is a great post!

Pool may be on national T.V. in England, but so is Cricket. T.G. we don't have to deal with that in the U.S! It is a cultural thing, and it has NOTHING to do with the characters who play the game at the top levels- the professionals. It has to do with how poorly the game translates to T.V. and how our society doesn't connect to the game like it does to NASCAR and the NFL, NBA, MLB and golf. The NHL is catching on somewhat but it will be a distant player to the big boys for decades to come.
 
Cheese isn't dead. It just gives me gas because of my allergic reactions. If I eat cheese four days in a row I get a rash.

I love eating cheese it makes me very much alive. Just the other day I did a pasta bake with mozzarella cheese. I did a cheddar and broccoli bake. I did a french bread pizza with mozz cheese. I even put cheese in my salads.

Cheese isn't dead. It is a fungus.
 
Chess is dead

The main reason I answered this post was to encourage anyone but especially young players to play chess.
It teaches you to not jump on the first shot you see and to consider alternates.
This is tremendously important in a game like 1 Pocket and even in life it helps to give you the discipline to look for alternatives.

I guess I should have put this in red in my original post.
 
I have a little Swiss cheese in my crisper that looks like it has a fungus on it. I'm afraid to do the Cheese Touch.:eek:
 
Just thinking out loud: my dad was state champ in chess and had about twenty books on chess. I got into pool and read about twenty books on pool and got good instruction.

My dad recently visited me from Arizona and I broke a rack and ran them out straight pool style without missing. He said I bet you can't do that again. I did it seven times in a row and narrated my thoughts and plans the whole way.

He couldn't believe how much pool was like chess. We played eight ball and I would tell him my entire plan to run the rack 7 shots ahead. His mind was blown and now appreciates the game I love and is even playing back in Az now. I couldn't be happier.
 
Please tell this to 35+ million people who play pool every year, or the ten million league members nationwide. They need to know that they are participating in a very unpopular sport. Maybe then they will take up chess instead.

Oh, I forgot the dozens of regional tours and tournaments that are thriving all across the USA, drawing good fields of players, and paying out some decent prize money. And maybe the 256 players who played in the recent U.S. Open need to hear about this.

Or how about the thousands who show up to watch the U.S. Open and Derby City or attend the Super Billiards Expo. I guess they don't count either. My point being there is a lot of interest in this "unpopular" sport.

I forgot one other small group. The tens of thousands who visit AZ Billiards every year. Over a million visitors so far and counting! Too bad pool is so unpopular, otherwise everybody would be doing it.

Has anyone told you that more people play pool in America than either golf or tennis. But I guess you would say they are also unpopular with the public. No public interest in pool? HOGWASH!




Jay,

Pool is unpopular in the respect that it isn't something people want to watch on TV or pay to go see live. If it were, all these millions of players, and league members and everyone you listed above would be doing just that. And pool would be a major televised sport as it is in a few countries. Because of the massive number of viewers and attendees, huge sponsors would step in to take advantage of the exposure.


Also, in other posts I've made on this subject (in older threads, I don't expect anyone to know what I said back then) I discussed many reasons why and one of the biggest reasons is because pool is more of a participant sport, rather than a spectator sport.

Why watch pool when you can play it instead? That's the prevailing attitude of American players.


Pool is simply one of the most if not the most accessible sports in the world. Maybe only darts is more accessible, but it has no where near the depth that pool does. One of the key factors in why some sports are watched is because the fans cannot participate. They like what they see, but cannot participate. Some things are better watched than played. A lot of people like to watch hockey. But I bet few would actually like playing it and getting hit all the time. Lot of people watch mixed martial arts, but barely any of them actually go out and participate in mixed martial arts. Most people don't like getting punched in the face.

Pool isn't like that. Don't have to be an athlete. It requires a minimum of hand eye coordination and skill to get started. Some sports are just unplayable even at the basic levels unless you have a decent amount of skill and coordination to begin. A good cue sports example would be 3-cushion. That's why 3-cushion isn't popular in America. For the game to have any flow and quality to it, you need a certain level of skill. Otherwise it's a bunch of ball banging for hours to make a couple points. Imagine a couple of APA SL2's trying to play 3 cushion. These are people that cannot make a simple short rail kick on a ball even 30% of the time. I think you get my point. I've shown a microcosm of this effect within the cuesports world. But this is even more so when compared to some other sports.


People, if they have the accessibility, the chance, the basic ability to at least be able to play with basic game flow will most often choose to play instead of relegate themselves to the status of spectators.


I talk to league players all the time I go into the pool room. Whenever I mention a tournament that is going on at the time, most are clueless. Even fewer know any major players. I mention SVB often, hardly anyone (of the league players) knows who he is. I mention Mika. Blank stares.


Yet, these people play league 2-3 times per week. Own lots of cues. Shoot a lot and all that good stuff.


Almost NONE have ever been to a single pro-tour stop of any kind when there are pro-tour stops around here locally. And I mean close, literally 6 miles away at most. Most don't even know such tour stops exist. Let alone who's in them.


I feel like I am speaking an alien language talking about that sort of thing to the vast, vast majority of league players. Here and there though, there is an enthusiast who knows because they follow it. Maybe 1 in 100 from my experience. It's that bad.


And my estimate is not far off. Because you know, and I know that if that percentage were higher, that tournament attendance, viewers of televised pool and all that would be greater. It's not. Because only a tiny fraction of the pool playing world in the USA cares about professional pool. They are busy using their precious leisure time playing instead of watching.



That's my thesis on why pro pool isn't popular in America.
 
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