This thread might cause some problems but your opinion requested

freddy the beard said:
I'm too old to go for that con, John. You will not trap me in Derby City. I heard you can still play a little. Unfortunately, a little is now too much for me. I will have to leave you to play Bruce The One Pocket Ghost, he's probably more your speed.

The Beard

Is that the Bruce who often plays on table 9 at Chris's, wears glasses? Not mentioning any last name here...
 
I have been around pool off and on for 20 year's. In all that time I have seen one serious full rack bank game! Mark Jarvus vs. Shannon Daulton. Played earlier this year for 4000 jelly beans. WOW Freddie!! What a list!!Anyone that has played that much bank pool against that many good players and betting it up to boot.... HAS MY RESPECT! I have purchased both of your books Freddie and hope to see you at Derby this year in hopes that you might autograph them for me. I believe full rack banks is the purest form of pool period! I am proud to say I am from the Knoxville, Tn area . Home of Eddie Taylor, one of the best bankers ever!
 
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freddy the beard said:
That's him. Dont tell him that I told you.
the Beard

Not too worry. Unless he reads your post, of course. There is a poster on AZ named 1 Pocket Ghost... Not sure if it's the same person, but based on some of his posts on here, I wouldn't be surprised if he is.
 
Flex said:
Not too worry. Unless he reads your post, of course. There is a poster on AZ named 1 Pocket Ghost... Not sure if it's the same person, but based on some of his posts on here, I wouldn't be surprised if he is.

I believe 1 pocket ghost was in the AZ room last year at DCC if I am not mistaken.
JoeyA
 
John Barton said:
Shawn Armstrong - YOu have got the 7 ball from me anytime. You have to bet forum banishement forever - whichever one of us loses agree to banish ourselves from all pool forums forever.

I'd like to compile a list of players like Freddy has that is even 1/4 as good as his - even if they were races to three of three ball.

You use stupid over-exaggerated made up examples to prove your fantasy ideas.

I will stake Freddy against you any day of the week in any game on a pool table. You can get your shot to add HIM to your list of people you beat - the only stipulation - you have to bet a large amount of money so you can say you actually won something.

Freddy! Your book IS THE NUTS - I have won a good amount of money banking balls in 9-ball, 8-ball, and 1-pocket using the techniques in your book. I am sorry but I hope you go broke trying to sell it because I hope that most of the Know-Nothing nits who would rather call you out in this disgraceful manner instead of coming off $15 will stay ignorant so I can BUST THEM.
Woof. I don't gamble. I don't feel that I need to. If you want to play me spotting me the 7, go right ahead. Whenever you're in Canada, let me know and we'll play a day long set. Bragging rights. You lose, you tell the board you got drilled by a nit, and every post you say "Shawn handed me my ass". Except, I remember you losing this exact same style of bet on RSB, and you weaseled out of it. You had to post that Justis cases were better than Instroke, and you weaseled out. So, forgive me if I don't give you much credit for your proposition bets, because your history shows you don't follow through.

BTW, I think Freddy's a great player. I just don't like someone putting up a list of people they have beat for money. You could give someone extra info about any of those players that are possibly matching up later on. "I read on AZ that you played even with Freddy the Beard. I'll need 2 balls to play you". Freddy's accomplished. So are those other players. I don't like having half the story, that's all. And, I might be ticked if I was one of those scalps he named that still relied on action for a living, and flew under the radar of most that don't know who they are. Now their names are in print - a hustler's "who's who" of banks.

My post wasn't an insult to Freddy. I didn't like his action. Doesn't mean I don't find him informative or interesting. Just my opinion, however wrong you might think that it is.
 
Quit while you're behind

Shawn Armstrong said:
Woof. I don't gamble. I don't feel that I need to. If you want to play me spotting me the 7, go right ahead. Whenever you're in Canada, let me know and we'll play a day long set. Bragging rights. You lose, you tell the board you got drilled by a nit, and every post you say "Shawn handed me my ass". Except, I remember you losing this exact same style of bet on RSB, and you weaseled out of it. You had to post that Justis cases were better than Instroke, and you weaseled out. So, forgive me if I don't give you much credit for your proposition bets, because your history shows you don't follow through.

BTW, I think Freddy's a great player. I just don't like someone putting up a list of people they have beat for money. You could give someone extra info about any of those players that are possibly matching up later on. "I read on AZ that you played even with Freddy the Beard. I'll need 2 balls to play you". Freddy's accomplished. So are those other players. I don't like having half the story, that's all. And, I might be ticked if I was one of those scalps he named that still relied on action for a living, and flew under the radar of most that don't know who they are. Now their names are in print - a hustler's "who's who" of banks.

My post wasn't an insult to Freddy. I didn't like his action. Doesn't mean I don't find him informative or interesting. Just my opinion, however wrong you might think that it is.

Stop, stop, Shawn, you're going deeper and deeper into the depths of your own ignorance. I really hate to pick on you, but you shoulda just left the whole thing alone. What you're actually doing is calling me a game knocker. That's hilarious. Since you won't bet that pig meat is pork, whatta you care? You're worrying about the guys on the list not being able to get a good game. 1/3 are already dead. Another 1/3 are in nursing homes, and the rest have applied for social security. Who are they trying to match up with? They looking to play in the pool wheelchair olympics? That shows that you really didnt know who those people were.
You shouldnt have voiced such a serious opinion with such little background info. There are too many knowledgeable guys on this forum who will call your hand. Lecture over. I forgive you, and will continue to read your posts.

the Beard
 
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freddy the beard said:
I know you probably mean well, kid, but I am a little warm at those bank pool shortstops in Louisville. My pal, Truman probably got you all riled up. I did go into Louisville looking to play anybody in town (except Truman). With all those big mouth, great players there, they mustered up one guy to play some $50 a game. Gerald. I played in that little creep joint on the 4 x 8's and did lose a few games to Gerald. Nobody else would play, and nobody would bet anything either and nobody would go play on a 4 1/2 by 9 including Gerald. And nobody from there, sure as sh*t ever came up to Chicago to get some. Actually, Fargo did come up twice when I was on my final gasps. He lost both times. Once for money, and once in the Chicago Bumps bank pool tournament. Although truthfully, by then I didnt like his action and was glad to escape.
Jay, thanks for sticking up for me, but I must also take issue with the ten or fifteen guys that you say could spot me. Who were they? Check out the list below. Only three guys spotted me on that list. Bugs, Truman and CornBread. Everybody else I beat even at least once. (Now don't be throwing batting averages, Jay. I only said I beat 'em all even at least once.) Makes you feel kinda good to be on that list though, don't it?
Is this list impressive enough for you, Bomber?
the Beard

John Abruzzo
Robert Houseman in TCOM Agins
Ronnie Fast Eddie Allen
Richie Richie from the Bronx Ambrose
Donnie Anderson
Jaffar Patch Eye, One-eyed Henry, Henry Chapman Basheer
Louis Little Hand Bramlett
Rusty Brandymeyer
Tony Tough Tony Brewer
James Youngblood Brown
George Brunt
Billy Cornbread Red Burge
Mike Carella
Vince Pancho Carelli
Jeff Carter
Johnny Lefty, Cannonball Chapman
Charlie Brooklyn Charlie Charlie
Clyde Childress
Hubert Daddy Warbucks Cokes
Nate Black Nate Colbert
Tony Benton Harbour Tony, Tony Banks Coleman
Wade Billy Johnson, Boom Boom Crane
Sam Okie Sam, Nashville Sam, Robert Ryan Crotzer
Alphonso Fonzi Daniels
Danny Buffalo Kid Di Liberto
Cole Hippie Cole Dickson
Vernon Eliot
Jamie Red Rifle Farrell
Tony Fargo Ferguson
Roger The Rocket Griffis
Cecil Rifleman, Buddy Hall
Jay Toupee Jay Helfert
Marvin Pittsburg Flash Henderson
Truman Hogue
Allen Young Hoppe Hopkins
Tony One-Eyed Tony Howard
Bill Cardone, Pittsburgh Billy, Mustache Charlie Incardona
Charlie left handed from Ky. Jones
Cliff Joyner
Eddie Champagne Eddie Kelly
Glen Fat Glen Knowles
Peter Peter Rabbit Linhard
Larry Oil Can, The Prince of Pool Lisciotti
Jimmy Hippie Jimmy Marino
Marco The Snake Marquez
Eddie Black Eddie from Milwaukee Matthews
John California John Mc Cue
Keith Earthquake, Ether, Grady Seasons McCready
Danny Medina
Howard The Coward Meechum
George Michaels
Al Racine Al Miller
Steve Miz Mizerak
Willie Munson
Jose Parica
Gary Pinkowski
Jimmy Hippie Jimmy Reid
Jim King James Rempe
Kenny Romburg Remus
Efren Bata Reyes
Skippy Dallas, Tex Le Cue Riggs
Louie St. Louis Louie Roberts
Glen Piggy Banks Rogers
Bernard Bunny, Pots and Pans Rogoff
Don Rose
Leonard Bugs Rucker
Ike Runnels
Denny Searcy
Freddy from New Orleans Sessions
Harry Poochie Sexton
Mike Captain Hook Sigel
Johnny Johnny Boy Skinner
Steve Lizard Smith
Joey Cincinnati Kid Spaeth
Gary Spaeth
Greg Big Train Stevens
Earl The Pearl Strickland
Cecil The Left Duke Tugwell
Nick Varner
John Mexican Johnny Vasquez
Alton Babyface Whitlow
Robert Rags Woods
Red Jew Town Red xxx
Iceman Black Iceman xxx
California California Shorty xxx
John Zaksas
Chi Chi little mexican
Long Beach

I asked Hopkins about playing you (I think he said he played you at one pocket) - and he said he was spotting you 10-7 or 11-7 (I forget which). He said you played really well and beat him but wouldn't re-adjust the spot, so he quit. Wasn't sure if your 3-guys included Hopkins (or only bank pool) - but according to him, he spotted you well. Not trying to mud sling or instigate - just clarifying :)
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
I asked Hopkins about playing you (I think he said he played you at one pocket) - and he said he was spotting you 10-7 or 11-7 (I forget which). He said you played really well and beat him but wouldn't re-adjust the spot, so he quit. Wasn't sure if your 3-guys included Hopkins (or only bank pool) - but according to him, he spotted you well. Not trying to mud sling or instigate - just clarifying :)

As I stated previously in my post # 18, that is players I beat at least once playing EVEN BANK POOL, not 1pkt. The 3 players that spotted me playing bank pool were Bugs, Truman, and CornBread. Definitely not Hopkins. This is the story from my bank pool encounter with Allen Hopkins from a previous post:

"I was playing Hopkins bank pool on table 9 at the Billiard Cafe. You may have been there that night, Phil (Welch). Allen and his backer were giggling at me because I was dogging it so bad. They swore they would stay in Chicago until they flat busted me. My son, Dino was also there that night, he was about 12 yrs old then, and was watching the game. It was bad enough to be playing that bad, but to be humiliated in front of my son was overkill. I finally made a commitment -- nobody from Jersey was going to beat me playing even banks in my own joint, world champion or not. I was a million games loser (we were playing short rack 9 ball banks) so I tripled the bet, and increased the "oil" level to the point where it was leaking on the floor. I went on a big run and I finally got to banking some "five and outs," and it was at that point that the Jersey boys said they had a plane to catch. Leave they did, under a torrent of insults, never to return."

the Beard
 
freddy the beard said:
As I stated previously in my post # 18, that is players I beat at least once playing EVEN BANK POOL, not 1pkt. The 3 players that spotted me playing bank pool were Bugs, Truman, and CornBread. Definitely not Hopkins. This is the story from my bank pool encounter with Allen Hopkins from a previous post:

"I was playing Hopkins bank pool on table 9 at the Billiard Cafe. You may have been there that night, Phil (Welch). Allen and his backer were giggling at me because I was dogging it so bad. They swore they would stay in Chicago until they flat busted me. My son, Dino was also there that night, he was about 12 yrs old then, and was watching the game. It was bad enough to be playing that bad, but to be humiliated in front of my son was overkill. I finally made a commitment -- nobody from Jersey was going to beat me playing even banks in my own joint, world champion or not. I was a million games loser (we were playing short rack 9 ball banks) so I tripled the bet, and increased the "oil" level to the point where it was leaking on the floor. I went on a big run and I finally got to banking some "five and outs," and it was at that point that the Jersey boys said they had a plane to catch. Leave they did, under a torrent of insults, never to return."

the Beard

Like I said - I wasn't sure if that was bank-pool-only or all-around.... so I was just curious. Hopefully you don't think I was jabbing at you - I respect you a lot.
 
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