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[shanesinnott]

I was just talking to Tom Storm out in the hallway. Though he advanced, he was disqualified in one of his matches against England's Daryl Peach. Tom was here in the tournament room watching several matches from the stands when the clock struck the golden hour for him to play. He was not, however, at his table right at the EXACT time the match was supposed to begin, and apparently, there is no "grace period" of 5 minutes for him to make an appearance. He said that he was lucky to advance since he was disqualified with an 8-zip score on his record, poor fellow.

JAM

Wow! Pretty Strict, but I am guessing he knew this so fair is fair (if it applys to all players)

Great updates JAM, keep up the good work!

 

[ScottW]

Do Aramith's "normal" balls ever have this happen?

 

[Andrew Manning]

I actually heard this from more than one player about the raised numbers. Gerry Watson also said the same thing, that the numbers were raised a bit. Shawn Putnam explained it to me that when you have the numbers put on "hard plastic" and then there are temperature changes, this will happen, just like with a cue stick that could be damaged when exposed to temperature changes.

JAM

I see what you're saying about the temperature changes if the ball is made out of materials of different density they would expand/contract unevenly, making them no longer perfectly round. I'm still surprised aramith would make balls that would do this, though. I thought they paid closer attention to performance than that. I can definitely see how it would be hard to hit a ball at 4.25" pockets with confidence when you know the ball is out of round.

-Andrew

 

[JAM]

Wow! Pretty Strict, but I am guessing he knew this so fair is fair (if it applys to all players)

Great updates JAM, keep up the good work!

I just talked to a referee and asked him about this rule. The player MUST be at the table when the referee says "Lag." If the player is not, they are charged one game every 2 minutes. Apparently, Tom Storm didn't see his opponent Daryl Peach at his designated table and continued to sit in the stands, thinking he'd wait for Peach to show up. Because he remained seated in the stands, nearby his table though, he was there for 15 mintues; thus, he was disqualified with an 8-zip score.

The same thing happened to Ronnie Wiseman. He was 2 minutes late after the referee said "Lag," and he was charged one game deficit, beginning his match with his opponent getting a free game.

JAM

 

[shanesinnott]

I was just talking to Tom Storm out in the hallway. Though he advanced, he was disqualified in one of his matches against England's Daryl Peach. Tom was here in the tournament room watching several matches from the stands when the clock struck the golden hour for him to play. He was not, however, at his table right at the EXACT time the match was supposed to begin, and apparently, there is no "grace period" of 5 minutes for him to make an appearance. He said that he was lucky to advance since he was disqualified with an 8-zip score on his record, poor fellow.

JAM

Jennie,

If you see Tom Strom again you may want to let him know about IPT rule number 24.0 and 23.0

24.0 states:
24.0 Late for a Match-
If a player is late for a scheduled match, the player forfeits the match. If a player is known to be at the tournament site, but not at the table for a scheduled match, opponent should call a referee at which time rule 23.0 will be exercised. If both players are late for a scheduled match, both will forfeit the match and it will count as a loss for both players (in the statistics, it will be recorded as a 0-8 loss for both players, which will adversely affect the player on the Money List rankings). If a player is already guaranteed to advance to the next round, even with a match remaining, if the player fails to play that match the player risks forfeiture from the tournament, or Tour Card.

23.0 states:
23.0 Not Ready to Shoot-
If the player whose turn it is at the table is not there to approach the table, a referee should be called. For each two minute interval that a player is gone from the table, the referee will issue a penalty by awarding a game to the player who is present. If a player fails to return to the table on a time-out, the opponent shall alert the referee who may begin timing the player to invoke this rule after a reasonable amount of time has transpired to ensure that the player receives his full five minute time-out.

So the way I read this, because Tom was in the building, rule 23 should have been applied (IOW, he should have been allowed play but but may have started down a game or 2, this all depends on how long after post he actually showed up)

 

[JAM]

Jennie,

If you see Tom Strom again you may want to let him know about IPT rule number 24.0 and 23.0

24.0 states:
24.0 Late for a Match-
If a player is late for a scheduled match, the player forfeits the match. If a player is known to be at the tournament site, but not at the table for a scheduled match, opponent should call a referee at which time rule 23.0 will be exercised. If both players are late for a scheduled match, both will forfeit the match and it will count as a loss for both players (in the statistics, it will be recorded as a 0-8 loss for both players, which will adversely affect the player on the Money List rankings). If a player is already guaranteed to advance to the next round, even with a match remaining, if the player fails to play that match the player risks forfeiture from the tournament, or Tour Card.

23.0 states:
23.0 Not Ready to Shoot-
If the player whose turn it is at the table is not there to approach the table, a referee should be called. For each two minute interval that a player is gone from the table, the referee will issue a penalty by awarding a game to the player who is present. If a player fails to return to the table on a time-out, the opponent shall alert the referee who may begin timing the player to invoke this rule after a reasonable amount of time has transpired to ensure that the player receives his full five minute time-out.

So the way I read this, because Tom was in the building, rule 23 should have been applied (IOW, he should have been allowed play but but may have started down a game or 2, this all depends on how long after post he actually showed up)

I think since he didn't get up out of his chair in the stands for 15 minutes, he lost all 8 games. If he had showed up 5 minutes late, as an example, he may have only been charged 2 or 3 games.

JAM

 

[shanesinnott]

I just talked to a referee and asked him about this rule. The player MUST be at the table when the referee says "Lag." If the player is not, they are charged one game every 2 minutes. Apparently, Tom Storm didn't see his opponent Daryl Peach at his designated table and continued to sit in the stands, thinking he'd wait for Peach to show up. Because he remained seated in the stands, nearby his table though, he was there for 15 mintues; thus, he was disqualified with an 8-zip score.

The same thing happened to Ronnie Wiseman. He was 2 minutes late after the referee said "Lag," and he was charged one game deficit, beginning his match with his opponent getting a free game.

JAM

Ignore my last

 

[shanesinnott]

I think since he didn't get up out of his chair in the stands for 15 minutes, he lost all 8 games. If he had showed up 5 minutes late, as an example, he may have only been charged 2 or 3 games.

JAM

In that case, he made a stupid decision IMO to not be where HE was supposed to be at post time.

 

[rackmsuckr]

KT went over this at the player's meeting about being at the table on time. Charlie Ursetti makes the announcement as a countdown..."Players, you have 8 minutes to be at your table", "You have 1 minute to be at your table", "You should be at your table ready to lag", "Please clear the table so that there are only 2 balls on it ready to lag", so there is no excuse for not being at your table, standing there with your stick and 2 balls on the table. Hmmm, that sounds funny!

JAM, if you see Tom Storm, can you have him find me? I need an autograph from him. Thanks!

I am glad you are getting a new 'puter!

Mike and I picked up a 13 ball last night after hearing the numbers were raising. I felt the numbers and it felt like it was a decal or something. Is that what they meant?

 

[bandido]

Mike and I picked up a 13 ball last night after hearing the numbers were raising. I felt the numbers and it felt like it was a decal or something. Is that what they meant?

Did the manufacturer send 2nds? Rushed the manufacturing? Forgot the Nelsonite? j/k

Really?

 

[Snapshot9]

Do you think ...

John Schmidt will go play golf today instead of Playing Keith at 10 .... Oh, I am so baaaddddd ....lol

 

[gregoryg]

Feels almost like I am there!

Thank you Jennie, for the coverage of this tournament. There is no way I could attend, but your updates make it seem like I am right there. Keep up the great coverage, and good luck to Keith.

 

[pbat2751]

http://www.vmware.com/products/ws/[/URL] Sorry for posting off topic in this thread and thanks so much for all the updates for us not there!

Tap! Tap! Tap!

That would be my way of doing it.

Get an I.T. guy and trade some computer work for some table time.


Calired its nice to have a fellow geek in the audience.

 

[JAM]

I'm sweating bullets. Keith's on the TV table, wins the first game, and then John Schmidt wins the second game. There is only one referee on the TV arena, where there are two tables, which I wish was different. It's a shame that there can't be two referees for such important LIVE TV matches. Right now the score is John 5, Keith 3.

For Phoebe, Alex Pagulayan has Scott Frost, 5 to nothing.

Wow, a cop just walked by with a sniffing black dog, looking for bombs, I guess.

JAM

 

[JAM]

Mike Sigel loses his first match, 8 to 2 (I think).

LilJon and Bustamante tied at 4.

Keith and John Schmidt, 5 to 4, John's favor.

JAM

 

[abbassi]

Pulling for U

Mike Sigel loses his first match, 8 to 2 (I think).

LilJon and Bustamante tied at 4.

Keith and John Schmidt, 5 to 4, John's favor.

JAM

Good luck to Kieth, pulling for u Jam. How is Garrahan doing

 

[sniper]

Keith and John Schmidt, 5 to 4, John's favor.

JAM

Good luck to Keith, he is in a tough group for the second round but then again everybody is!

It's real unfortunate what happened to Tom Storm, but if they went over that at the players meeting he has nobody to blame but himself.

 

[JAM]

Keith McCready loses to John Schmidt on the hill-hill. He had John 7 to 6 and made an INCREDIBLE shot right before the 8-ball to seal the deal. Overcome by emotion, he doesn't take his time and chokes horribly on the 8, allowing John to run the table to tie it at 7. John breaks, runs a few balls, and allows Keith to the table. After a brief back-and-forth, John chokes on a combo, leaving Keith a straight-in elementary shot on the 6 with the 8-ball next. Keith takes his time and literally missed the 6-ball trying to cheat these tight pockets. John triumphs, 8 to 7.

Bustamante won his match.

Next up for Keith is the Hatchet Man at 12:00 on Table 31.

JAM

 

[JAM]

Mark Tademy losts to Oliver Ortmann on the TV table.

Legendary player Cole Dixon is in the house, as is Jeanette Lee with shorter hair.

JAM

 

["CaliRed".]

Tap! Tap! Tap!

That would be my way of doing it.

Get an I.T. guy and trade some computer work for some table time.


Calired its nice to have a fellow geek in the audience.

Cheers pbat ! Geeks who breath pool and bytes, imagine that? I can fix anything software/hardware related but can't fix my own stroke.
It IS a unbelievablely cool program...