Thorsten Hohmann is a fan of "technology"

Icon of Sin said:
What I get from this... He was snapping off majors with a conventional shaft.
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Not for 3 years, he won nothing. He was in a drought. Or players were just getting better and passed him by. who knows. Nobody thinks it was 100% the shaft. I'm sure he had to dedicate himself more, concentrate more, and practice more. But, on certain shots, he no longer lost focus or confidence. That's a win in anybody's book. The game is hard enough to play let alone have your confidence fade when you need it the most ;)
 
AtLarge said:
Thorsten won the World 14.1 Tournament in August, 2018.
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I guess only one win in 3 years is considered a slump for most. Just looked back at the article, and that's what he said, only one win in the last 3 years.
 
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asbani said:
TAlso while talking about LD shafts, I'm using the pro from Meucci, is this considered an LD shaft, or maple normal shaft? I'm wondering...
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The Pro shaft from Meucci is definitely a LD shaft, and one that I really like (own 3 Pro shafts, one is 30").
 
Cadillac J said:
The Pro shaft from Meucci is definitely a LD shaft, and one that I really like (own 3 Pro shafts, one is 30").
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Interesting that you say that, I was searching around and I saw a post on reddit about this subject, they claim it is not an LD shaft, coming from pooldawg billiard is huge.

Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/billiards/comments/822re1/breaking_with_meucci_the_pro_shaft/

Look at the third post from poodawg billiard, they are a company that sell pool cues.
 
Damn inside.

A guy that has done lots of pool playing, been a table mechanic, promotes good matches, owns a world class pool room and has done lots of good stuff for pool told me this.

When Efren came across the pond to be a thorn in the side of many top players he had and advantage What could it possibly be? Well by golly, Efren had mastered the dreaded "inside English". It often separated him from the pack. He used it to his advantage and embraced it., understood it and did not fear it. It won him games, matches, tournaments and Big Bucks!

Inside English is a pain in my butt. Makes the cue and object ball do strange stuff and makes me wanna cuss.

Just saying.....
 
HawaiianEye said:
And, to think, some of the Pool Scientists and other people on here gave CJ Wiley hell for promoting his Touch of Inside (TOI) playing system when he used to post here.

I wonder if they are going to start badmouthing Thorsten for talking about "inside".
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You might want to try to understand the difference between what Thorsten and CJ said about it. CJ claimed favoring inside over other kinds of hits gave illogical playing advantages. All Thorsten said was inside is easier for him now.

I think inside and outside are equally challenging, but we tend to use inside less, so we think it's inherently harder. Then when we get a general improvement in side spin accuracy we notice the improvement more with inside. Nothing special about inside itself - we're just not as practiced with it.

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garczar said:
Poodawg is wrong here. Its LD.
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Corroboration that it is LD from the Meucci website: "This shaft is as low effective deflection as the Z2 by Predator but is a full 12.5 millimeters with a full 14” Pro Taper like all standard Meucci Cues."
 
AtLarge said:
Corroboration that it is LD from the Meucci website: "This shaft is as low effective deflection as the Z2 by Predator but is a full 12.5 millimeters with a full 14” Pro Taper like all standard Meucci Cues."
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This is what Meucci claims, but they can be biased anyway it’s their product right? So you don’t expect partial judgement, I highly doubt that the pro shaft can have the same low deflection as the Z shaft which is 11.75mm, don’t get me wrong the pro shaft is awesome, but come on! A 12.5mm shaft bs the Z? Noway


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asbani said:
This is what Meucci claims, but they can be biased anyway it’s their product right? So you don’t expect partial judgement, I highly doubt that the pro shaft can have the same low deflection as the Z shaft which is 11.75mm, don’t get me wrong the pro shaft is awesome, but come on! A 12.5mm shaft bs the Z? Noway


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Yes, it's Meucci's claim; whether it's accurate, I do not know. But the quote confirms that Meucci views it as a low deflection shaft. Note that the quote uses the term "effective deflection." I'm not sure whether that's the term Bob Meucci uses with his Myth Destroyer testing machine, showing the net effect (on where an object ball is driven) of deflection, swerve, and object-ball throw. Of course, the validity of results from that machine has also been questioned. I think the "half inch hydraulic ferrule" on the Pro shaft is also part of the LD design.

Quite a few people seem to like that Pro shaft.
 
AtLarge said:
Quite a few people seem to like that Pro shaft.
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Thanks for the info.

I do like the Pro shaft myself, it's pretty good, I used to play with a hpII from mezz before which is also LD and really good shaft, but the Pro for me is just a tad better.
 
AkGuy said:
A guy that has done lots of pool playing, been a table mechanic, promotes good matches, owns a world class pool room and has done lots of good stuff for pool told me this.

When Efren came across the pond to be a thorn in the side of many top players he had and advantage What could it possibly be? Well by golly, Efren had mastered the dreaded "inside English". It often separated him from the pack. He used it to his advantage and embraced it., understood it and did not fear it. It won him games, matches, tournaments and Big Bucks!

Inside English is a pain in my butt. Makes the cue and object ball do strange stuff and makes me wanna cuss.

Just saying.....
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And Efren did that with a 1" cue ball ferrule . Efren used deflection to his advantage .
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
I think inside and outside are equally challenging, but we tend to use inside less, so we think it's inherently harder. Then when we get a general improvement in side spin accuracy we notice the improvement more with inside. Nothing special about inside itself - we're just not as practiced with it.

pj
chgo
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Some of us are not part of the we you mention.

The reason we are not as practiced as us is that we only shoot inside when we absolutely have to. Some of us prefer to use it most of the time.
 
asbani said:
Interesting that you say that, I was searching around and I saw a post on reddit about this subject, they claim it is not an LD shaft, coming from pooldawg billiard is huge.
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Don't care what is posted on the internet from someone else...I am going by my research, experience and owning pretty much every major brand on the market. There is a reasons I own 3 different The Pro shafts, as well as another Meucci 30" Ultimate Weapon shaft---they are up there with the best in my opinion.


garczar said:
Poodawg is wrong here. Its LD.
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Agreed. Thanks my man.
 
jasonlaus said:
Never had a problem with inside, use it all the time. Maple shaft.
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Me neither! Was starting to feel like I'm going crazy because inside-english has never been an issue for me on any cue or shaft :confused: , yet I read all these posts about the "difficulty"...just leaves me scratching my head.
 
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