Thoughts on this link posted in the Main Forum...

i saw this in the main forum, I agree with jude on this one !!!

I am against a Jump Cue being used, but i feel and has always felt in all games that if you can jump full cue it should be allowed !!!!


-Steve
 
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Same here. No jump cues. However, if jumping with your playing cue is allowed by the rules then it's allowed by the rules. Who am I, or anyone for that matter, to go against the established rules of the game?

You did take an outrageously emphatic stance in that thread though, Winston. Just wondering, if my ball was off the green in low grass and I used my putter to knock in a birdie, would you walk off the course?

Ron F
 
You're asking if I think jump cues should be illegal... I'll go ya one better, I think 9 ball should be illegal. :thumbup:
 
Ron F said:
Same here. No jump cues. However, if jumping with your playing cue is allowed by the rules then it's allowed by the rules. Who am I, or anyone for that matter, to go against the established rules of the game?

You did take an outrageously emphatic stance in that thread though, Winston. Just wondering, if my ball was off the green in low grass and I used my putter to knock in a birdie, would you walk off the course?

Ron F
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Certainly not. You could use your driver for all I care to make that shot. There's no rule that says you can't. In fact, I remember a tournament where a pro (can't remember his name offhand, but a pretty well-known pro) putted with a 1-iron for the remainder of a round because on an earlier hole he broke his putter in a temper tantrum.

To be clear, the rule as I interpret it says you can jump - but with your playing cue. Although I'm a purist and wouldn't do it myself, under those guidelines, I couldn't stop my opponent from doing it.
 
3andstop said:
You're asking if I think jump cues should be illegal... I'll go ya one better, I think 9 ball should be illegal. :thumbup:
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9-ball as it's known today (Texas Express) should be illegal. "Original" 9-ball (2 shot roll out) is actually a pretty good game.
 
Under WPA Equipment Specs, these are the requirements for cue sticks:

17. Cue Sticks
Cue Sticks used at WPA competitions should comply with the following
during play at table:

Length of Cue: 40 inches [1.016 m] minimum / No Maximum
Weight of Cue: No minimum / 25 oz. [708.75 gm] maximum
Width of Tip: No minimum / 14mm maximum

The cue tip may not be of a material that can scratch or damage the addressed ball. The cue tip on any stick must be composed of a piece of specially processed leather or other fibrous or pliable material that extends the natural line of the shaft end of the cue and contacts the cue ball when the shot is executed..

The ferrule of the cue stick, if of a metal material, may not be more than 1 inch [2.54 cm] in length.
​

These specs apply to all games, including 14.1. When "jump sticks" are disallowed for 14.1, it's because the event is being played under something other than strict WPA rules/specs.
 
Winston846 said:
To be clear, the rule as I interpret it says you can jump - but with your playing cue. Although I'm a purist and wouldn't do it myself, under those guidelines, I couldn't stop my opponent from doing it.
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"Call me an old-school purist, but I would quit mid game regardless of the cue used to jump. Jumping and 14.1 should not be mentioned in the same sentence... or same conversation for that matter. "


You apparently had a change of heart, because your comment here contradicts your first comment in the other thread.

Ron F
 
Ron F said:
"Call me an old-school purist, but I would quit mid game regardless of the cue used to jump. Jumping and 14.1 should not be mentioned in the same sentence... or same conversation for that matter. "


You apparently had a change of heart, because your comment here contradicts your first comment in the other thread.

Ron F
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I know, but upon further thought I considered that if someone wanted to attempt a shot like that, let them. Their odds of making it are long and their odds of controlling the cue ball if they do are even longer. It would be a good bet I would get to the table with a decent shot.
 
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Winston846 said:
I know, but upon further thought I considered that if someone wanted to attempt a shot like that, let them. Their odds of making it are long and their odds of controlling the cue ball if they do are even longer. It would be a good bet I would get to the table with a decent shot.
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Did you go tell those other guys you changed your mind? Your "purist" comments seemed to have ruffled some feathers over there.
 
Ron F said:
Did you go tell those other guys you changed your mind? Your "purist" comments seemed to have ruffled some feathers over there.
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Read the thread. I did say I would probably end up allowing an opponent to do it. As for being a "purist", it is what it is. That's what 14.1 is - a purist game. And when it comes to playing 14.1, I honestly think I would have rather been alive in the 1960's than now.

EDIT: Link to post where I said I would let them...

Winston846 said:
True... I may be a purist at heart, but if my opponent were to attempt this shot, I'd probably let him - especially if only a few balls were open and there was a good chance he would open up the rest of them with a crazy shot. The odds would definitely be against him making it - and the only downside would be if he actually did.
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I'd let them do it too. I wouldn't think much of them or their game afterwards, but I'd let them jump.
 
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