Tips for Students of CTE

This thread is so far down the aiming system rabbithole that everybody but the posters has been "run out" by the same thing - boredom.

I think the CTE wonks deserve their own permanent thread - where they can continue their monklike task of cataloging system head and bridge positions beneath the rotating edges of the endlessly shining Sun.

pj
chgo


I think calling them wonks would be an insult to wonks.

Lou Figueroa
 
Wow! They couldn't help but ruin another CTE thread. Read the title. Tips for CTE students. If you are not one, then you don't belong here. If you don't use CTE then you don't have any good tips and don't belong here. Stick to the threads that are set up to debate the topic instead please!
 
The last time I saw interactions at this maturity level, I was about 7 years old, and recess was about to end on the schoolyard!!!

Why is it that CTE always seems to bring out the "inner child" in people?

Dismayed by the lack of maturity on AZB,
Dave
 
The last time I saw interactions at this maturity level, I was about 7 years old, and recess was about to end on the schoolyard!!!

Why is it that CTE always seems to bring out the "inner child" in people?

Dismayed by the lack of maturity on AZB,
Dave

Great! Like we need advice in maturity or morals from a guy that steals other peoples material and posts it on his website and claims to be helping.

I think we're alright here Dr. Dave. :thumbup:
 
Great! Like we need advice in maturity or morals from a guy that steals other peoples material and posts it on his website and claims to be helping.

I think we're alright here Dr. Dave. :thumbup:

That's a hundred and three mile an hour fast ball, right down the middle. Ouch. :D
JoeyA
 
The last time I saw interactions at this maturity level, I was about 7 years old, and recess was about to end on the schoolyard!!!

Why is it that CTE always seems to bring out the "inner child" in people?

Dismayed by the lack of maturity on AZB,
Dave


I don't know about any one's inner child, but it does seem to bring out the homophob in Joey.

Lou Figueroa
 
The last time I saw interactions at this maturity level, I was about 7 years old, and recess was about to end on the schoolyard!!!

Why is it that CTE always seems to bring out the "inner child" in people?

Dismayed by the lack of maturity on AZB,
Dave


You really need to get off your high horse.

Lou Figueroa
 
I didn't bother to read his particular thread when it started, and now that I've checked in to see the last 2 pages, my initial instinct has been proven correct.

The same 6-8 people calling each other names.

Disappointing, given how much each of those 6-8 people have to offer in threads that don't contain the subject of CTE.
 
I didn't bother to read his particular thread when it started, and now that I've checked in to see the last 2 pages, my initial instinct has been proven correct.

The same 6-8 people calling each other names.

Disappointing, given how much each of those 6-8 people have to offer in threads that don't contain the subject of CTE.

yeah disappointing - especially since there really are people who wanted to actually discuss and learn CTE.
Get a life people.
 
yeah disappointing - especially since there really are people who wanted to actually discuss and learn CTE.
Get a life people.

Agreed. As I said before. GO somewhere else if you don't have any CTE tips. There are other threads with CTE that you can ruin.
 
Ok, back to the original purpose of the thread.

Is there any general rule of thumb you (CTE/PRO1 users) use for which direction to pivot on banks?
 
Use CTE/Pro1 or 90/90 and use L/R english to offset the CIT.

Or, over-compensate the english and offset with a high bank speed.
 
Regarding banking:

I don't know if I'm doing it right, but it's working well for me. When I'm shooting a typical cross side bank, I quickly look at the line the OB would take if I hit it straight in the face. If I'm pretty close to that line or would only have to cut the OB a little to get it to bank, I use what I call the "thick" pivot, same as if shooting an almost straight in shot to the pocket. So if cutting the ball to the right, I would use a left pivot. If I have to cut the ball more than a slight amount, then I use the "normal" pivot which would be in the same direction as the cut.

I find that for a lot of typical cross side banks, I can use the thick pivot and make the ball easily. For me and my stroke, I can make it with a nice medium speed stroke with center ball or a touch of outside or I can hit it pretty firm with more outside. I worked this out so I had a few simple speeds and spins I could rely on based on positional needs etc. For anything else - extremely soft or firm speeds or odd english - I resort to feel based adjustments as normal.

If I need to shorten the bank (the straight on line would go above the pocket), I just line up on the outer edge and pivot accordingly, usually I need to hit the ball a bit harder or use inside english depending on how large the angle is. I can also cross over the ball very easily using the same judgement of cut angle, and since the cutting across puts the right english on the OB no english is usually needed.

My banking wasn't bad before by any means, but all by feel. I'm now very accurate with normal cross side banks or cross corner banks within normal parameters using the CTE/Pro1 or 90/90 sightings, and I'm really not analyzing the bank like I used to, just imagine the proper cut angle within a range and line up pivot and shoot. Easily 9 out of 10 cross side and 7 out of 10 cross corner from varying positions within those normal parameters, proabably 1 - 2 shots better on both. I find that if I have to cut the ball a lot (say using the B aim point) or I'm at a very off angle it doesn't work as well, not because of the system but because of having to compensate more for friction induced throw off the rail. Still working on that to see if I can still use the system effectively on those. Also personally am having more of an issue with long banks, they are more sensitive to english and I have to force myself not to try and twist the ball and just hit it cleanly.

Scott
 
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Regarding banking:

I don't know if I'm doing it right, but it's working well for me. When I'm shooting a typical cross side bank, I quickly look at the line the OB would take if I hit it straight in the face. If I'm pretty close to that line or would only have to cut the OB a little to get it to bank, I use what I call the "thick" pivot, same as if shooting an almost straight in shot to the pocket. So if cutting the ball to the right, I would use a left pivot. If I have to cut the ball more than a slight amount, then I use the "normal" pivot which would be in the same direction as the cut.

I find that for a lot of typical cross side banks, I can use the thick pivot and make the ball easily. For me and my stroke, I can make it with a nice medium speed stroke with center ball or a touch of outside or I can hit it pretty firm with more outside. I worked this out so I had a few simple speeds and spins I could rely on based on positional needs etc. For anything else - extremely soft or firm speeds or odd english - I resort to feel based adjustments as normal.

If I need to shorten the bank (the straight on line would go above the pocket), I just line up on the outer edge and pivot accordingly, usually I need to hit the ball a bit harder or use inside english depending on how large the angle is. I can also cross over the ball very easily using the same judgement of cut angle, and since the cutting across puts the right english on the OB no english is usually needed.

My banking wasn't bad before by any means, but all by feel. I'm now very accurate with normal cross side banks or cross corner banks within normal parameters using the CTE/Pro1 or 90/90 sightings, and I'm really not analyzing the bank like I used to, just imagine the proper cut angle within a range and line up pivot and shoot. Easily 9 out of 10 cross side and 7 out of 10 cross corner from varying positions within those normal parameters, proabably 1 - 2 shots better on both. I find that if I have to cut the ball a lot (say using the B aim point) or I'm at a very off angle it doesn't work as well, not because of the system but because of having to compensate more for friction induced throw off the rail. Still working on that to see if I can still use the system effectively on those. Also personally am having more of an issue with long banks, they are more sensitive to english and I have to force myself not to try and twist the ball and just hit it cleanly.

Scott
Your coming along very well with CTE, thanks for your reports.
 
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