To all the players who beat me giving me the nuts

I think you sent your phone number
please keep mine so you can call me
214 477 7323

i was looking forward to playing you or at least meeting you and seeing you play
you are every bit as good as these other monsters mentioned so lets try to play

at least let me buy you a burger so we can talk about old times

remember it is not just anybody who comes to town with a stake horse for you,
he only does this because he says he knows i don't do business and therefore he feels comfortable staking the game

you guys from Houston all know dennis although he now resides in Las Vegas so
you better bring some cash of your own as I no longer play against air

just in case dennis is not there

i forgot to mention a guy at the Le cue who gave me every ball wild and he broke "the train" was his moniker

he ended up in witchita kansas and owning a pool room,Craig Stevens was his name.
I believe he was the best player I ever played was Louie Roberts , I was kinda afraid to play
him but he had a new stakehorse named Stan Musiel the great hitter.
So I took the break and the 4 ,5,6,7,8 wild even on the break playing 2 shot roll out

just to show me he had gamble,he gave me the hand span this is where
I COULD MOVE THE CUE BALL THE LENGTH OF A HANDSPAN AT ANY TIME
I was also given the break along with this handspan in 6 Ball
6 ball was a game where the break sounded so good but failed to save me.

After the game some pool detective pointed out to me that I would be better off playing
1 foul and 9 ball so I could snooker my opponent using the handspan

This advice was good for the general theory of handicapping but failed to take in consideration
that Louie was able to make any ball from anywhere at any time

back in those days this was a huge spot,just not huge enough as it turns out.
Just as an aside Louie quickly broke stan the man from the world of staking pool games

Did I mention playing Dick Lane the straight pool geru who played me 150 no count.
This truly did sound like the nuts until he ran out within the first hour with a shaking right hand that gave me the willies
so we switched to the 5678 and break where i lasted a longer time but with no profit for my effort

This is how I earned the reputation for always playing the nuts
 
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If Dean had a Fargo it would be around 550 on his better days. He's a terrible 9 ball player, he plays better one pocket but is still a scrub....he's literally just a degenerate gambler.

Your welcome Dean....
 
HouTexPlayer said:
Dean,

I'll be at Big Tyme on Wednesday night playing league.I like to gamble and like your stakes/style, but I have no idea how we would match up. I'll PM you my cell phone number and if you make it up there, let me know and we can talk in person and see if we can make a game.

I'm a banger - pure and simple but I don't mind gambling if I feel the game is fair - not looking to steal or be stolen from - just enjoy the competition.

If you're there and we can't agree on a game, then it would be my pleasure to simply buy you a drink.

Thanks,

DC
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I may come drive to Big Tymes on Thursday to check out the action. I will bet on the side and will for certain be in action playing KENO! BOUNCE BOUNCE!
 
Thanks to Jake for something
I prefer not to use the word degenerate when describing
my sporting activities

I can neither confirm or deny the fargo rating
i no longer play 9 ball
it is my conviction that since svb gave cory the 5 ball and won,
that there is no way for a player of my ability to win
unless it started with break and ball in hand plus so much weight that
i might as well be playing the ghost,plus i have a stamina problem
and only one pocket lets me relax

jake why don't you come to houston,bob and i will pick you up at the airport

get away from that building project,refocus and have some fun
at least for a day or 2

bring your sidekick cue making friend up thursday night
and fly back friday or saturday morning

you can bet on anybody that i play and have some fun

thanks for rating my game so high,i think

I just remembered some other huge example of out loafing the nuts
Black Sam gave me 9 to 3 at banks,which i had never played before
or ever will again
and
then gave me a normal pocket for me and took a pocket up table for himself
way up the other side of the table

i reasoned,although perhaps not clearly that if i scratched he would never get an easy shot

another game that amused the crowd was when I played Titanic Thompson some idiotic ball in hand try to kick the ball in 3 rails in fewest number of strokes.He was a terrible player and had lost $500,000 to a fella named Hubert Cokes AKA Daddy Warbucks therefore I reasoned that since

he had lost that much ,and i needed the money and he couldn't play a lick that i would "take a shot at the money"

This is also a great strategy the big boys seem to use with great impunity,my error here was in not realizing that
Titanic was also "taking a shot at the money" mine

Pool matching up is a lot like chess,I get so excited getting ready to attack his king that I sometimes find myself in checkmate one move before I
I win the game.You have to play both games to fully appreciate the feeling

I took comfort in the fact that my over all strategy was sound even though in this particular case it didn't work out
so well for me

Before I give you the opinion that I was always losing,I must add that these huge fiascos mentioned which as I said are not exhaustive but only specimen of the pitfalls of not correctly assessing the nuts rather than a condemnation of the general gambling theory that it is good to get the nuts

I was also on the winning side of many a friendly wager,as most of these humiliating losses so pleased the pundits that ,as you might imagine
i was always being offered the nuts and in fact won not a few times

These wins encouraged me to keep trying,play high and enjoy the game.

What I have found is that cheap pool and $5 gripe too much,call too many fouls,examine the rack and make the game a
lot of no fun saying things like I get the nuts or I never would win

I have to ask"who would?'


It's hard enough to win with the nuts,how would I survive without them?"

Notice the time of post,I am so excited to be getting in action I can not slee
so I got up,my wife says after the long drive it will take me two days

to get my energy up to a level that I can play,by then I will be ready to come home

She also asked me "if you couldn't beat Billy or Buddy when you were young what makes you think you can now?'

Women have a certain intuitive approach to things like pool.
I had to explain that women can not understand the fine nuances of a mans game like pool.

She said she can understand not having enough money to redesign the swimming pool or get a new car
and there fore I will be operating on a fixed budget.

women really have a funny way of looking at things,don't they?
 
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Post

Blah! If you want to impress me..... Post a pic Or none of that ever happened!!!




Rob.M
 
deanoc said:
Thanks to Jake for something
I prefer not to use the word degenerate when describing
my sporting activities

I can neither confirm or deny the fargo rating
i no longer play 9 ball
it is my conviction that since svb gave cory the 5 ball and won,
that there is no way for a player of my ability to win
unless it started with break and ball in hand plus so much weight that
i might as well be playing the ghost,plus i have a stamina problem
and only one pocket lets me relax

jake why don't you come to houston,bob and i will pick you up at the airport

get away from that building project,refocus and have some fun
at least for a day or 2

bring your sidekick cue making friend up thursday night
and fly back friday or saturday morning

you can bet on anybody that i play and have some fun

thanks for rating my game so high,i think

I just remembered some other huge example of out loafing the nuts
Black Sam gave me 9 to 3 at banks,which i had never played before
or ever will again
and
then gave me a normal pocket for me and took a pocket up table for himself
way up the other side of the table

i reasoned,although perhaps not clearly that if i scratched he would never get an easy shot

another game that amused the crowd was when I played Titanic Thompson some idiotic ball in hand try to kick the ball in 3 rails in fewest number of strokes.He was a terrible player and had lost $500,000 to a fella named Hubert Cokes AKA Daddy Warbucks therefore I reasoned that since

he had lost that much ,and i needed the money and he couldn't play a lick that i would "take a shot at the money"

This is also a great strategy the big boys seem to use with great impunity,my error here was in not realizing that
Titanic was also "taking a shot at the money" mine

Pool matching up is a lot like chess,I get so excited getting ready to attack his king that I sometimes find myself in checkmate one move before I
I win the game.You have to play both games to fully appreciate the feeling

I took comfort in the fact that my over all strategy was sound even though in this particular case it didn't work out
so well for me

Before I give you the opinion that I was always losing,I must add that these huge fiascos mentioned which as I said are not exhaustive but only specimen of the pitfalls of not correctly assessing the nuts rather than a condemnation of the general gambling theory that it is good to get the nuts

I was also on the winning side of many a friendly wager,as most of these humiliating losses so pleased the pundits that ,as you might imagine
i was always being offered the nuts and in fact won not a few times

These wins encouraged me to keep trying,play high and enjoy the game.

What I have found is that cheap pool and $5 gripe too much,call too many fouls,examine the rack and make the game a
lot of no fun saying things like I get the nuts or I never would win

I have to ask"who would?'


It's hard enough to win with the nuts,how would I survive without them?"

Notice the time of post,I am so excited to be getting in action I can not slee
so I got up,my wife says after the long drive it will take me two days

to get my energy up to a level that I can play,by then I will be ready to come home

She also asked me "if you couldn't beat Billy or Buddy when you were young what makes you think you can now?'

Women have a certain intuitive approach to things like pool.
I had to explain that women can not understand the fine nuances of a mans game like pool.

She said she can understand not having enough money to redesign the swimming pool or get a new car
and there fore I will be operating on a fixed budget.

women really have a funny way of looking at things,don't they?
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Deanoc, I nominate this thread for "Most entertaining thread of the year" You need to write a book.
 
What are pals for?

I don't take a lot of pride in getting the wild 5 ball from Scotty Townsend, not 11-6 from a middle of the road one pocket player or 11-5 from a top one pocket player.

My Fargo rating is a little under Dean's rating so I guess I won't ask for much weight. The way he lays it down, I probably should be asking for the world.

JoeyA

LGSM3 said:
If Dean had a Fargo it would be around 550 on his better days. He's a terrible 9 ball player, he plays better one pocket but is still a scrub....he's literally just a degenerate gambler.

Your welcome Dean....
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Tap tap

This thread is too funny!!

Wish I could be there just to enjoy all the stories that will
Be flying around. You all are our link to history... Hope we get
Some recorded while this event goes down.

TD
 
What are "3 hit and the break" and "3 hit and the pick"?

From Dean's post: "oh yes i lost $2000 to Joey Barnes with 3 hit and the break" and "...Jeremy Jones who gave me 3 hit and the pick"

Thanks,
Dave
 
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12squared said:
What are "3 hit and the break" and "3 hit and the pick"?

From Dean's post: "oh yes i lost $2000 to Joey Barnes with 3 hit and the break" and "...Jeremy Jones who gave me 3 hit and the pick"

Thanks,
Dave
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Where I come from, David, the 'pick' and the 'break' are synonymous...
...when you break, you get to 'pick' the pocket.

'3 hit' means you can only run 3 balls in one turn...then you can play safe...
....'3 and stop' means you don't get to play the safety.
 
GideonF said:
I don't care if any of it never happened. The thread is hilarious. Although, I guess it is even better if it did happen.

Gideon
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-

I was only trying to be funny and poke at him for never posting pictures.




Haha

Rob.M
 
deanoc said:
Thanks to Jake for something
I prefer not to use the word degenerate when describing
my sporting activities

I can neither confirm or deny the fargo rating
i no longer play 9 ball
it is my conviction that since svb gave cory the 5 ball and won,
that there is no way for a player of my ability to win
unless it started with break and ball in hand plus so much weight that
i might as well be playing the ghost,plus i have a stamina problem
and only one pocket lets me relax

jake why don't you come to houston,bob and i will pick you up at the airport

get away from that building project,refocus and have some fun
at least for a day or 2

bring your sidekick cue making friend up thursday night
and fly back friday or saturday morning

you can bet on anybody that i play and have some fun

thanks for rating my game so high,i think

I just remembered some other huge example of out loafing the nuts
Black Sam gave me 9 to 3 at banks,which i had never played before
or ever will again
and
then gave me a normal pocket for me and took a pocket up table for himself
way up the other side of the table

i reasoned,although perhaps not clearly that if i scratched he would never get an easy shot

another game that amused the crowd was when I played Titanic Thompson some idiotic ball in hand try to kick the ball in 3 rails in fewest number of strokes.He was a terrible player and had lost $500,000 to a fella named Hubert Cokes AKA Daddy Warbucks therefore I reasoned that since

he had lost that much ,and i needed the money and he couldn't play a lick that i would "take a shot at the money"

This is also a great strategy the big boys seem to use with great impunity,my error here was in not realizing that
Titanic was also "taking a shot at the money" mine

Pool matching up is a lot like chess,I get so excited getting ready to attack his king that I sometimes find myself in checkmate one move before I
I win the game.You have to play both games to fully appreciate the feeling

I took comfort in the fact that my over all strategy was sound even though in this particular case it didn't work out
so well for me

Before I give you the opinion that I was always losing,I must add that these huge fiascos mentioned which as I said are not exhaustive but only specimen of the pitfalls of not correctly assessing the nuts rather than a condemnation of the general gambling theory that it is good to get the nuts

I was also on the winning side of many a friendly wager,as most of these humiliating losses so pleased the pundits that ,as you might imagine
i was always being offered the nuts and in fact won not a few times

These wins encouraged me to keep trying,play high and enjoy the game.

What I have found is that cheap pool and $5 gripe too much,call too many fouls,examine the rack and make the game a
lot of no fun saying things like I get the nuts or I never would win

I have to ask"who would?'


It's hard enough to win with the nuts,how would I survive without them?"

Notice the time of post,I am so excited to be getting in action I can not slee
so I got up,my wife says after the long drive it will take me two days

to get my energy up to a level that I can play,by then I will be ready to come home

She also asked me "if you couldn't beat Billy or Buddy when you were young what makes you think you can now?'

Women have a certain intuitive approach to things like pool.
I had to explain that women can not understand the fine nuances of a mans game like pool.

She said she can understand not having enough money to redesign the swimming pool or get a new car
and there fore I will be operating on a fixed budget.

women really have a funny way of looking at things,don't they?
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Bill S. or Billy Incardona?
 
rhinobywilhite said:
Deanoc, I nominate this thread for "Most entertaining thread of the year" You need to write a book.
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Yes, Dean, you gotta get this stuff on paper. It's way too good to get lost
in a stack of ho-hum threads.
Dang, if I were only mended a little better from my disastrous medical issues,
I would be in the Suburban headed for Houston. Nearly eight months in the
Hospital and nowhere to spend money, I accumulated quite a sizable bankroll
that is burning a hole in my slacks.
Best of luck with whomever you match-up. I know for damn sure you will have
a wonderful time, regardless the outcome.

Please say hello to John Henderson for me. I'm hoping he wins the Senior 1-Pocket.

Howard
 
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deanoc said:
i am not playing in the tournament
i play 5 balls under the worse player in it

i am just going to see what happens and maybe play
if somebody offers the nuts

so its playing too cheap and quitting too soon

this could not possibly be right since on more than one of these i went home broke

playing too cheap might have been the problem,
i have seen many players shoot poorly when the bet was too high

trouble is sometimes it is me

to buddy
sounds like you might have a life
never apologize for that

my hat is off to you
dc

this week will mark the last outing for me so i hope there is
action galore for ole deano and
there will be no need to add to this sorry' list' which is only specimen
and no where near exhaustive

Even though I have threatened to do this twice in the last 5 years and remained at home under
the close eye of the spouse,this time I am going to be there

Don't be bashful about asking me to play,but I must have picture identification and a visual of bankroll before matching up

Since I don't play very well I will need a spot
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I have some similar stories to yours although you probably play 4 balls better than me at 1 pocket.
I finally concluded that if I had only bet everything I had on one game, or at most a race to 3, I would have only lost about 1 100th of the money I lost playing pool.
This is for several reasons
1.I usually had more money on me than the rest of the pool room combined minus the owner.
So all those times I went busted to someone with 4 dollars to their name would not have happened.
2.Most of the people I played would have never had the courage to give me anywhere near a decent spot for all their money on one game. Most of them were firing one cheap barrel hoping to get my nose open.
3.I would have beaten a few of them, for the simple fact that as you said , some of them folded up like accordians under pressure.
4. The last guy that really woofed at me, even though I told him I had lost my love of gambling long ago, he would not relent.
One day he mocked that he could give me 10 to 7 and rob me, I said get $40,000.00 together as fast as you can and we will play one match for it.
He had a look on his face like I hit him in the head with a 2x4.
That was the last time he asked me to gamble.
 
This guy does need a lot weight,if he played Titanic Thompson that would put him close to a 100 years old.
 
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