To glue it to staple?

DeeDeeCues said:
None were on my table. Still had tacks. As previously mentioned, there is only evidence of this table being recovered a few times in its life.
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I was referring to the French fold in the pockets, because of the 3 layers of cloth, plus the straping tape the staples have to go through, and still hold it in place. Notice where I placed the staples. When you staple the flaps underneath, then use 1/4".
 
I must say that I'm enjoying this thread.
The images that you guys have uploaded of your cloth installs are simply so nice to see. :)
 
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gazman100 said:
I must say that I'm enjoying this thread.
The images that you guys have uploaded of your cloth installs are simply so nice to see. :)
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thats my version :)
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DeeDeeCues said:
Truth.
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People saying there is only one way is the main problem with the mechanics forum. There are many acceptable ways :)
I deal mostly with homeowners that are not recovering their tables like a pool hall does. There are more people who work in peoples homes than in pool halls. I am also a member of a FB group for mechanics and they are mostly those people. There are a lot of them!

Many of them only work on home tables, some use spray glue and others staples. Breathing that spray glue is terrible(probably just as bad as smoking cigarettes or worse) and I refuse to do it. I am very good at pulling staples and don't mind doing it. Unless of course someone used 3/8" in staples or some odd type of staple not used typically in our industry and then I still use my patience to pull them.

A nice Senco 1/4" crown staple is not difficult to remove. I do not buy or typically work on tables that have ROACHED out slate backers. I know what I want to do and what I don't. I realized in my first year that pulling staples is part of this job and I did not like it: I DECIDED THEN TO BE PATIENT WITH IT AND GET VERY GOOD AT IT.

I can install via both methods. I also created my own way of installing cloth via the adhesive edge bond concept. It does involve measuring, marking the cloth with lines and I also use the lines when using staples as well.

I have learned so much from this forum and I know others have and will as well. Sharing knowledge and networking with other mechanics & customers is a great benefit.

A pretty smart guy told me about his idea : Use 90a durometer neoprene on the bottom of the rails in the staple relief area and it would also work on the slate backer. The neoprene would hold staples and could be replaced.

The adhesives solvent based nature is my issue. Using it all the time is never going to be in my future.

I try to contribute and be a positive member of this forum. I also try to support others to do the same.

TFT

One of my favorite tools: I have 2 :)

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This is a set of Anniversary rails Mark Gregory built and sent to a customer in Oregon. In these pictures I'll first show you what my cloth work looks like, because I had to completely tear the table down, then put it back together right. In the second set of pictures, I'll show you why I'm never impressed with pictures of the tables when they're finished and put together. Finished pictures never show the truth of the skills of the mechanics doing the work, but, the following pictures DUE show why this table turned out so horrible to play on!!!!

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Same kind of work can be done on a Diamond as well. As long as you're willing to pay for the work to be done, there's always someone willing to take your money! Quality work, and money
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[ATTA equal out, which is WHY you ask for the pictures of the work done, not the finished table pictures!!!
 

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fastone371 said:
Good grief!!!! I cant believe that someone let this out the door.
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I remember that entire situation, that was a CUSTOMER of Mark G's that decided to cover the rails himself. That guy was a HOOT! He goes by Colt Kodiak on here now, somehow "ole Dennis" has managed to change his name on here like 3 times. He has since sold that table and lives somewhere in the Southern California Desert. He tried to lie and say a "pro" did that work, but, then after he "hinted" to it being a reputable local, he would not reveal who it was. So funny!!!

There are plenty of guys out there doing good work. It seems too easy for some people to focus on how bad others are.

TFT
 
bradsh98 said:
I just set up a brand new Spencer Marston table last weekend. Despite having slate liners and the incredibly easy to install Championship Invitational, I still opted to glue the cloth, using RKC250.
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So you stopped using 3m-77 spray glue? RKC 250 works GREAT! Congrats. It looks amazing!

We buy it by the case! Much better value :)
TFT

p.s. Still only use it on valleys and diamonds :)

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I use 3M-77 on typical bar tables.. And that's only because it's what most others use. It's a lot easier than completely stripping the old adhesive
 
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I use 3M-77 on typical bar tables.. And that's only because it's what most others use. It's a lot easier than completely stripping the old adhesive
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I only work on the Valleys in Miscue North and South here in Toledo. I charged them a one time adhesive removal fee. Now we only use the RKC250 on them. I still use the 3m-77 on the rails, down to 9 staples on the corners of the rails and 5 staples on the side pockets.
Happy to see business is good!

TFT
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bradsh98 said:
I use 3M-77 on typical bar tables.. And that's only because it's what most others use. It's a lot easier than completely stripping the old adhesive
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I would have absolutely no second thoughts about sending you work, or referring to you as the best mechanic in your area, where ever you may be, or traveling to!

Call me, and I'll tell you how to get paid to clean the glue off the bar slates😅
 
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