Brother Ron
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I don't really understand how some of todays cues can be called a Sneaky Pete when once they are screwed together they in no way resemble a bar cue.
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Todays Sneaky Pete cues
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It's all in your personal preference, I like a wrapless wood to wood joint but others may like something less covert. My Joss isn't a covert sneaky it's just a tad bit fancier version of one. I used to feel the same way you do about sneaky's but to each their own. No one will be sneaking up on anyone anytime soon these days no matter what cue they're using!
Brother Ron
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Very true.
But a 70 year old guy with a true Sneaky instead of his fancy Meucci might be able to hustle a few bucks without too much notice .
there isn't a cue in the world that once is screwed will look like a one piece house cue.
any new cue, a few days in and the seam of the joint will be visible on any wood to wood joint. In fact it would look so ugly that I prefer a sneaky pete with some sort of collars at the joint.
Another issue with a cue that is too "sneaky" is that some idiot might think it's a house cue and pick it up to use it...
In times where any APA2 players carry around a $3000 set of cues, you shouldn't have an issue getting some action with any cue.
any new cue, a few days in and the seam of the joint will be visible on any wood to wood joint. In fact it would look so ugly that I prefer a sneaky pete with some sort of collars at the joint.
Another issue with a cue that is too "sneaky" is that some idiot might think it's a house cue and pick it up to use it...
In times where any APA2 players carry around a $3000 set of cues, you shouldn't have an issue getting some action with any cue.
I had an extreme idiot not only try to use it but also refused to release it. His death grip was above the joint, so I griped it below the joint. He braced himself for a tug a war. I didn't pull but just started unscrewing the butt from the shaft that he had both hands on. It was almost completely unscrewed when he finally relented and released my cue.
Had he opted to continue the battle....my butt would have significant advantage over what remained in his hands.
The break jump cue picktured in my kit breaks down at two joints. Both are discernable but not obvious. The phenolic tip would have been an unpleasant surprise if I had allowed the idiot to hit a ball with it.
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maybe your young lol but the first sneaky Pete’s were exactly that. They looked like a 1 piece . I have one that I could put in a rack and you’ll never know. at some point they got fancy. If you put a collar and a butt cap on it it’s no longer sneaky just a wrap less cue. To me there is a difference. I don’t have a problem with it.. it’s just not a sneaky.
Who cares what an apa 2 carry’s in their case. They are supporting the game if they can afford it let them buy it. Pool always seems to get in their feelings about that. In golf a 20 handicap buys a new $1k driver and no cares. Lol we just ask to hit a ball with it to check it out.
Back in the day....
The guys that showed up with All the high dollar gear to go with their fancy expensive cue, Wouldn't bet a dollar that water was wet. Well my first ask was always, "shall we play for a beer?" If that was accepted, after 3 I would propose $5. At that time 3 beers was my , uh natural condition dendweller
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I was playing a guy once. He went to break and couldn't find his break cue. He'd left it lieing on the next table over. Someone had grabbed it and was playing a few tables away. Looked nothing like a sneaky and had a break tip on it.I had an extreme idiot not only try to use it but also refused to release it. His death grip was above the joint, so I griped it below the joint. He braced himself for a tug a war. I didn't pull but just started unscrewing the butt from the shaft that he had both hands on. It was almost completely unscrewed when he finally relented and released my cue.
Had he opted to continue the battle....my butt would have significant advantage over what remained in his hands.
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The break jump cue picktured in my kit breaks down at two joints. Both are discernable but not obvious. The phenolic tip would have been an unpleasant surprise if I had allowed the idiot to hit a ball with it.
Doesn't matter what the cue looks like, you have to keep an eye on them.
Another old fart story.
I always kept my cue with me in a tavern. It went with me to the men's room. At the urinal I would place it behind me against the wall so it wasn't getting splashed. A Thief actually tried to take it as he passed behind me. I always kept it within my peripheral visible range and as soon as his hand touched it I gave a warning. "You have ahold of more than you want to F*** with.," Was my warning without interupt of stream. He released it to slink away.
I wish I was too young….
Any wood to wood will catch dirt over time the wood moves a bit as well and the seam becomes visible
I don’t care what others carry in their case, that wasn’t the point.
The point is that having a fancy cue doesn’t mean that you are a player to fear
Dennis Tucker (Dennis Searing shaft with Murray Tucker butt)
My only Sneaky (not so sneaky).
Murray Tucker (one of the first five cues he ever made...this one was made in 2000).
My only Sneaky (not so sneaky).
Murray Tucker (one of the first five cues he ever made...this one was made in 2000).
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Nice
Here are my "not so snekeys" - Left to right - Dufferin, McDaniel, Sugartree, Players (jump/break)
You watch someone’s stroke and in a few minutes you will see if they can play - cue does not matter at all if you want to size up ability.
If a player exhibits very strong final focus combined with the cue tip finishing all the way through the cue ball - on a consistent basis - good chance they can play a bit. The third obvious sign of possible strong play involving the stroke is seeing a very smooth transition from cue back to cue forward regardless of bridge length - which can vary from Bustamante to Hopkins visually.
If a player exhibits very strong final focus combined with the cue tip finishing all the way through the cue ball - on a consistent basis - good chance they can play a bit. The third obvious sign of possible strong play involving the stroke is seeing a very smooth transition from cue back to cue forward regardless of bridge length - which can vary from Bustamante to Hopkins visually.
Yep. When you know, you know.
If I remember right, it was Dave Peona that came through the North Wet with a 15 dollar Walmart Budweiser cue in a naugahide envelope soft case. He left with The Hat's money.
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To the point of the original post, I've also been perplexed by the loose use of "Sneaky Pete" these days. I've mostly played with basic four point players, 4 points, visible joint colors, a wrap, etc. I've had a couple people refer to them as Sneaky Petes, which is crazy to me. It doesn't bother me, they just don't look anything like a house cue to me.
To some of the other posters, I've also had "true" Sneaky Petes walk off. Yes, it can happen with any cue, but Sneaky Petes make it more common IME. I've also had people get made when I broke down a Sneaky Pete after playing in a bar, even if we weren't gambling and I made no suggestions to do so. I'd like "not so sneaky" Sneaky Petes and have played with one (visible joint ring at least), but can't see calling a cue that when it has wrap, veneered points, butt cap, stainless joint collar, etc. I'm not sure where the line is, but some of the cues being marketed as such go well over it for me. Marketed is the key word. I think "Sneaky Pete" gets a lot of hits and that's the main reason it gets thrown around.
To some of the other posters, I've also had "true" Sneaky Petes walk off. Yes, it can happen with any cue, but Sneaky Petes make it more common IME. I've also had people get made when I broke down a Sneaky Pete after playing in a bar, even if we weren't gambling and I made no suggestions to do so. I'd like "not so sneaky" Sneaky Petes and have played with one (visible joint ring at least), but can't see calling a cue that when it has wrap, veneered points, butt cap, stainless joint collar, etc. I'm not sure where the line is, but some of the cues being marketed as such go well over it for me. Marketed is the key word. I think "Sneaky Pete" gets a lot of hits and that's the main reason it gets thrown around.