Touching the cloth with hands or cue?
- Thread starter Brookeland Bill
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At long last he has returned
REDHAWK.
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REDHAWK.
PI.
Depends on the rules as to how you can use your stick. I think pretty much anything with the stick is legal these days although I am still not comfortable with a stick left on the table free to roll or whatever.
Hard to prove but leaving the visible chalk mark is illegal. If somebody does that repeatedly I would protest it. I suspect a friend that uses his stick a lot sometimes leaves an incidental mark but I'm also sure he can't see it on a nine foot table.
Hu
Jay Helfert's book shows a cue bent 20º-odd after sliding the tip a few inches on a brake. It this to be outlawed ?? {It would sure make the cloth last longer.}
{With no disrespect to Jay implied or intended.}
{With no disrespect to Jay implied or intended.}
Johnny Archer was known for that. I’m not sure it could be done these days with a carbon fiber break shaft?
Mike Sigel bent the shaft on the break more than anybody I’ve seen.
When gambling, I‘ve told people they can make all the marks they want. To me, it’s like a man thinks he’ll learn to paint like DaVinci using a ‘paint by numbers’ system.
I bet you're a "good time" in the bedroom
How crooked is the table you play on where you have to worry about a cue rolling on it? Wow!
You so silly
If anyone thinks leaving a chalk mark on the table while pivoting the cue is an advantage I would offer them to make a mark like that for every shot, in fact I have already done that. My offer was refused for some reason. I think people do this just to get an idea of how far they need to aim past the edge of the ball. I just do not find it to be a big deal if an opponent does this while playing me.
I hope you realize that people probably make a much bigger mess by chalking over the table. There is also a lot of foreign object to table contact while racking, it would pretty hard to outlaw racking. In the grand scheme of things this stuff is all pretty minor when you consider how much humidity and heat can affect the playing surface, are we going outlaw humidity??
dendweller
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I agree, just thought about it because of the content of this post. Nothing I've ever considered making an issue about.
SlateMan
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Don't ever watch a video of people playing pool in the Philippines.
Table, cue, floor, who knows? Then there is the cue getting bumped and it rolls nicely. I have seen dozens of cues roll over the years when laid across the rails. I would never do it with a cue I liked in a public place. To put it gently, "Stuff Happens" and I don't want it to happen to the balls when I like the layout. Sure as hell after my opponent puts them back I won't like them as well as I did before!
Generally I agree with you. If a no hoper is cheerfully paying over the cash I let them get away with some pretty outrageous stuff, far more than a few marks on the table. However, if someone with well known banking and kicking skills starts marking I am going to be inclined to bitch. I have seen a couple road players that would do it. Wouldn't have thought they needed to but maybe it was a little insurance. If a pool room benevolent fund marks I'm not likely to see it. A road player known to use slug racks and any move he can get away with, I'll shut him down just on general principles.
I used to hold my finger in place to help pretty girls when I was a youngster. A finger and just telling them to hit fast slow or medium and I could have total bangers running four or five balls and not even knowing they were using speed and angles to play shape. The good ol' days! I just found out one of my old running partners never made fifty. Lost others younger but I knew about it. Sucks to find out somebody is long gone that you thought was out there somewhere. He had two beautiful blond sisters that often benefitted from the fickle finger!
Hu
This is what I think too, most are better visualizing where center cue ball is going to be, or needs to be. If playing some of the real jerks, they also think they are getting over by "cleverly" putting a mark.
Not letting them think they are getting over on me is part of the reason for shutting them down. Some are always looking for an edge even if they don't need it. I have watched shortstops cheat bangers. Why? No need to and if caught it will cost you some future bets and maybe a few lumps. Even bangers may knuckle and skull.
Hu
