Tri-State Open at Amsterdam Billiards NYC this weekend

SmoothStroke said:
Besides his game Shin Park is a gentlemen, never runs his mouth win or lose.He has closed a few big mouths and carries himself with class.
On a different note : The carom shot that Ginky took.. (great shot)Very low PC shot.... he had other choices to win the game. he makes the shot he is a hero,,he misses and sells out he is a zero..the crowd is saying why did he take shot? I think a poor choice but either way he made the shot.


I guess you didnt notice the 3-ball or where the cueball was left after the shot. It was a free shot.
 
yobagua said:
Can someone explain the beef Tony and Ginky were having. These are two really nice guys and it was strange to see them upset.

Two great friends with a long history in a Quarterfinal match at Hill-Hill. Tensions are bound to rise. And they did. They're fine now. :)
 
full results

1st Shin Park Pro
2nd Tony Robles Pro
3rd Danny Baroury Pro
4th George San Souci Pro
5th-6th Jesse Rice A
Jonathan Smith Open
7th-8th Adam Kosmin B+
Mika Immonen Pro
9th-12th Ali Al Rais A
Noel Bensurto A
Guy Iannuzzi B+
Robert Pole A
13 - 16 Gina kim-Lipsy B
Juse Rosenstock Open
Michael Tosado A
Steve Lipsky Open
17 - 24 Bernard Isaacowitz C
Mark Mallari B
Michael Yednak A
Carl Yusuf Khan B+
Matthew Moskowitz B
David Faust B
Vu Phan C
Sal Marcelo C
25 - 32 Jeff Quintana Open
Tony Eglesias B
Paul Raval A
John Egeln C
Ibrahim Sillah C+
Stewart Warnock B+
John Alicea A+
Jim Forster D+
33 - 48 Andrew Cleary C
Ron Mason C+
Jim Ireland C
Mike Davie D+
Dave Shlemperis C
Kevin Kiniery D+
Mike Harringotn C
Ed Miller C
Bob Riler B
Dave Fitzpatrick D
Frankie Hernandez Pro
 
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Thanks for posting that, Cleary. That is the kind of info I like to read. :)

JAM
 
Thanks for posting the list AC. But I noticed Flaco and our own SJM was not on the list. Yet I saw them at Amsterdam. Did they not elect to play? And can you tell me what was the first four prize money?
Thanks
 
yobagua said:
Thanks for posting the list AC. But I noticed Flaco and our own SJM was not on the list. Yet I saw them at Amsterdam. Did they not elect to play? And can you tell me what was the first four prize money?
Thanks


I don't recall seeing Flaco there that day. SJM only comes out to give us a hard time when he feels up to it (see 14.1 World Championship Qualifier). I mean, many of us go through stretches where we simply don't compete as much as we used to. SJM used to compete a lot more but just doesn't do it as much right now.
 
junior718 said:
I guess you didnt notice the 3-ball or where the cueball was left after the shot. It was a free shot.

I saw the 3,,I also see the 2 either sliding it over or pushing it back up off the short rail just under the 3,,, and locking whitey on the 4/9. It's tough to tell on a PC..More than one way to skin a cat. Still a great shot. Sometimes its "Do" Sometimes it's "Die"
 
SmoothStroke said:
I saw the 3,,I also see the 2 either sliding it over or pushing it back up off the short rail just under the 3,,, and locking whitey on the 4/9. It's tough to tell on a PC..More than one way to skin a cat. Still a great shot. Sometimes its "Do" Sometimes it's "Die"


The diagram is set up to place emphasis on the carom, not the lay-out of the table. The lay-out of the table was unrunnable, please take my word. Ginky could have played safe. I have yet to see a player who plays safe better than him. However, even with ball-in-hand, there was a remote chance he would significantly improve his odds of winning. What's more, his opponent was Mika Immonen. Mika is likely the polar opposite to Ginky. He is a pocketing machine. You really do not want to test what Mika is capable of doing and is actually WILLING to do.

If there is one thing most advanced players in New York City agree on is that Ginky makes the correct decision just about all the time. Like anyone who is human, he may not be perfect in execution but his decisions are often flawless. He took that shot because it was an opportunity to win right then and there without having to win a safety battle and manage a tough layout while keeping the best pocketers in the world in his chair. He thought about that shot for a good minute before taking it which was about 58 seconds longer than I would have taken. The moment that shot is evident to the shooter, he has to go for it.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
If there is one thing most advanced players in New York City agree on is that Ginky makes the correct decision just about all the time. Like anyone who is human, he may not be perfect in execution but his decisions are often flawless. He took that shot because it was an opportunity to win right then and there without having to win a safety battle and manage a tough layout while keeping the best pocketers in the world in his chair. He thought about that shot for a good minute before taking it which was about 58 seconds longer than I would have taken. The moment that shot is evident to the shooter, he has to go for it.

Beautifully said Jude! And I agree, the table was a pisser to run!! I'll take this one step further to show the unbelievable talent that lies within that man. When Ginky came to the table, he assessed it and at hill-hill mind you, says, "I'm gonna take my break!" (What a great move taking a break then!) He smokes his cigarette carelessly talking to people and as he finishes, he flicks his cigarette away and during his casual strut back in says,

"9 using the 2-4 carom!"

Even crazier, he had to shoot the 1 first to get position for this shot! It was amazing!! :eek:
 
GG11 said:
Beautifully said Jude! And I agree, the table was a pisser to run!! I'll take this one step further to show the unbelievable talent that lies within that man. When Ginky came to the table, he assessed it and at hill-hill mind you, says, "I'm gonna take my break!" (What a great move taking a break then!) He smokes his cigarette carelessly talking to people and as he finishes, he flicks his cigarette away and during his casual strut back in says,

"9 using the 2-4 carom!"

Even crazier, he had to shoot the 1 first to get position for this shot! It was amazing!! :eek:

That's an awesome story! :D
 
film at 11?

There was a camera on a tripod catching the action. I believe it was Mike Tosado's dad. Is there any way to get this shot on the internet? It was great to see, but the film would immortalize it. Anybody know Mr. Tosado well enough to ask him?
 
I've come across a couple of videos on You Tube of Michael shooting with Ginky and another shooting with SJM. You'll probably find it there.
 
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