Trump gets $40,000 for running out one rack

New cloth makes the pocket generous.

The best shot, to me, was the red he smacked in the side...at 41 points.
A similar shot that I've noticed Ronnie and Judd play is brown into a middle pocket from a bad angle to go to the baulk cushion first and hard enough to get back to a red. Maybe others play the shot as well, but they are the two I've noticed and been surprised by.
 
I've read on here plenty of times that a 150 and out in straight pool in tournament play would be the equivalent as that requires a ton of concentration.

thats a fairytale imo, a 150 in straightpool never equals a 147!
there are countless players around the world today who can shoot a 150 almost every day while a max break is still something special! and dont forget that snookerplayers are better educated in their sports than any poolplayer!
also from personal experience.......i was able to shoot 80-90 in straightpool and 50-60 in snooker but while i could imagine to shoot 150 with a perfect run i was never ever even thinnking about making a max break in snooker, not even 100 lol ok, i wasnt often playing snooker but still it sounds unreal to me to make a max while the 150 isnt that far away!
 
thats a fairytale imo, a 150 in straightpool never equals a 147!
there are countless players around the world today who can shoot a 150 almost every day while a max break is still something special! and dont forget that snookerplayers are better educated in their sports than any poolplayer!
also from personal experience.......i was able to shoot 80-90 in straightpool and 50-60 in snooker but while i could imagine to shoot 150 with a perfect run i was never ever even thinnking about making a max break in snooker, not even 100 lol ok, i wasnt often playing snooker but still it sounds unreal to me to make a max while the 150 isnt that far away!

Agreed....... IMO....147 is much more difficult and the pressure does not go away after you secure the frame. After 13,14 blacks is when you really feel it .
 
So what do you think would be the pool equivalent of a 147? Or are the differences too great to make.
That side pocket shot was amazing!

I've read on here plenty of times that a 150 and out in straight pool in tournament play would be the equivalent as that requires a ton of concentration.

Couple of things that I believe make 150&out harder in straightpool.

You have to break the stack many more times.

Run 149 and miss you can still get beat.

The last is an important point. After the player gets to 80 at snooker, there is no fear of the other player beating him as there aren't enough points left. There is only the fear of missing the 147. And not getting the high break prize.

I think we all agree that both feats are pretty amazing.

I agree that its probably harder (if the pockets are sufficiently tight): in snooker the colors get replaced on specific spots. A snooker player can count on, say the blue, being in the blue spot and using it to break open the pack.

In 14.1, every rack is the wild frontier.

thats a fairytale imo, a 150 in straightpool never equals a 147!
there are countless players around the world today who can shoot a 150 almost every day while a max break is still something special! and dont forget that snookerplayers are better educated in their sports than any poolplayer!
also from personal experience.......i was able to shoot 80-90 in straightpool and 50-60 in snooker but while i could imagine to shoot 150 with a perfect run i was never ever even thinnking about making a max break in snooker, not even 100 lol ok, i wasnt often playing snooker but still it sounds unreal to me to make a max while the 150 isnt that far away!

Agreed....... IMO....147 is much more difficult and the pressure does not go away after you secure the frame. After 13,14 blacks is when you really feel it .

I have some familiarity with snooker, straight pool, and three cushion billiards.
I have always felt that a 100 run in straight pool and snooker and a 10 run in billiards
are about equal.

I feel a 147 at snooker to be about 200 at straight pool and a 17 at 3-c.

Willie's 526 is like running three 147s in a row and a 35 at 3-c.

This is VERY arguable because pockets on snooker tables and pool tables vary.

But the pool world may not realize how many 147s have been ran....
...Cliff Thorburn had 54 when he became 54 years old...a few players have many more.
 
But the pool world may not realize how many 147s have been ran....
...Cliff Thorburn had 54 when he became 54 years old...a few players have many more.

Not in professional tournament play he didn't!

Ronnie 'only' has about 13 I think.

Now of course if you include practice games, exhibitions and non-sanctioned tournaments I'm sure that number increases dramatically, but in professional play no-one has close to that amount.

I'm not sure if there are any accurate stats kept for straight pool, but it would be interesting to see the number of 150+ runs that players have as a (very rough) comparison to snooker 147's.
 
Not in professional tournament play he didn't!

Ronnie 'only' has about 13 I think.

Now of course if you include practice games, exhibitions and non-sanctioned tournaments I'm sure that number increases dramatically, but in professional play no-one has close to that amount.

I'm not sure if there are any accurate stats kept for straight pool, but it would be interesting to see the number of 150+ runs that players have as a (very rough) comparison to snooker 147's.

Tournament play was not implied...I believe Cliff has had two..and the first 147 ever in the
World Professional Snooker Championship.

I was just commenting that 147s aren't as rare as many think...
...I have a friend, who when he only had 100 centuries to his credit....
...FIVE of those runs were 147s.
 
I have some familiarity with snooker, straight pool, and three cushion billiards.

(1)-I have always felt that a 100 run in straight pool and snooker and a 10 run in billiards
are about equal.

(2)-I feel a 147 at snooker to be about 200 at straight pool and a 17 at 3-c.

(3)-Willie's 526 is like running three 147s in a row and a 35 at 3-c.

(4)-This is VERY arguable because pockets on snooker tables and pool tables vary.

(5)-But the pool world may not realize how many 147s have been ran....
...Cliff Thorburn had 54 when he became 54 years old...a few players have many more.

Sir, I must question every analogy you made!... I also must question your 'familiarity' with these games!

(1)-You are off to a terribly poor start! A run of 10 (in 3cbilliards) is much more difficult, as is 100 in snooker!

(2)-Not even close..it would be more like running 300 or more! (check for frequency)

(3)-Your poorest comparison of all!

(4)-Correct--Close to the rail shots, are very difficult on a snooker table, whereas they are almost 'gimme's' on a pool table!..Are you saying this makes potting balls 'easier' in snooker?

(5)-This is simply not true!..I doubt Thorburn has even four 147's to his credit..Please show your source!

You have been the recipient, of some very bad information! :rolleyes:
 
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Tournament play was not implied...I believe Cliff has had two..and the first 147 ever in the
World Professional Snooker Championship.

If we're not taking about tournament play then yes 147's are super common (for pro's), I remember in Jimmy White's book he said he had around 200 in practice matches (I can't remember how long ago he wrote that).

I was just commenting that 147s aren't as rare as many think...
...I have a friend, who when he only had 100 centuries to his credit....
...FIVE of those runs were 147s.

Good %, if he stopped there thats probably some kind of record :-)
 
Bob Jewett should work for an internet marketing company.

How about these for thread titles:

He made a red, but you won't believe what happened next.
One weird trick to get a 147.
You won't believe what this snooker player looks like today.
 
Sir, I must question every analogy you made!... I also must question your 'familiarity' with these games!

(1)-You are off to a terribly poor start! A run of 10 (in 3cbilliards) is much more difficult, as is 100 in snooker!

(2)-Not even close..it would be more like running 300 or more! (check for frequency)

(3)-Your poorest comparison of all!

(4)-Correct--Close to the rail shots, are very difficult on a snooker table, whereas they are almost 'gimme's' on a pool table!..Are you saying this makes potting balls 'easier' in snooker?

(5)-This is simply not true!..I doubt Thorburn has even four 147's to his credit..Please show your source!

You have been the recipient, of some very bad information! :rolleyes:

I'll start with #4.....
It's obvious that snooker and pool pockets vary....but pool pockets vary from other pool pockets..
...and snooker pockets vary from other snooker pockets.
I seriously doubt that you are very familiar with variance in snooker pockets I've seen.
...everything from less than 3 in. to over 3.5....and many different shelves.

you, sir, have not been the recipient of ENOUGH information.
 
I'll start with #4.....
It's obvious that snooker and pool pockets vary....but pool pockets vary from other pool pockets..
...and snooker pockets vary from other snooker pockets.
I seriously doubt that you are very familiar with variance in snooker pockets I've seen.
...everything from less than 3 in. to over 3.5....and many different shelves.

you, sir, have not been the recipient of ENOUGH information.

Sorry sir, but I have probably played on more different snooker tables, (all sizes) than you have even seen!..You need to provide some semblance of 'proof' for your wild assertions!..Just about everyone on this forum knows, I am not a 'newbie'!..I can back up whatever I say, with facts! :sorry:
 
Sorry sir, but I have probably played on more different snooker tables, (all sizes) than you have even seen!..You need to provide some semblance of 'proof' for your wild assertions!..Just about everyone on this forum knows, I am not a 'newbie'!..I can back up whatever I say, with facts! :sorry:

Time to regroup here.
I'm not going to be your next CJ...or a certain 3-c player for you.
I look at AZ as a place to share information...so if you want to beat your chest...
....have at it...but carry on without me.
 
Sorry sir, but I have probably played on more different snooker tables, (all sizes) than you have even seen!..You need to provide some semblance of 'proof' for your wild assertions!..Just about everyone on this forum knows, I am not a 'newbie'!..I can back up whatever I say, with facts! :sorry:

Have you played on a snooker table set up for a professional tournament in the UK or Europe ?

Dave <-- may ask Cliff how many 147s he's had in tournament and practice play next time he's through these parts.
 
Have you played on a snooker table set up for a professional tournament in the UK or Europe ?

Dave <-- may ask Cliff how many 147s he's had in tournament and practice play next time he's through these parts.

Cliff almost had three 147s in a row once...147...15 blacks, missed the yellow...147.
..this was on a Gold Crown 6x12 with 3 and 5/8ths pockets...and a generous fall.
 
Time to regroup here.
I'm not going to be your next CJ...or a certain 3-c player for you.
I look at AZ as a place to share information...so if you want to beat your chest...
....have at it...but carry on without me.

If you want to call my correcting your errors, "beating my chest"..go right ahead!..Just another 'wrong' for you! :sorry:

PS..CJ often got carried away with himself...Mr3cushion was just a complete blank!..His comments were usually indecipherable!..:rolleyes:
 
Sorry sir, but I have probably played on more different snooker tables, (all sizes) than you have even seen!..You need to provide some semblance of 'proof' for your wild assertions!..Just about everyone on this forum knows, I am not a 'newbie'!..I can back up whatever I say, with facts! :sorry:

If you want to call my correcting your errors, "beating my chest"..go right ahead!..Just another 'wrong' for you! :sorry:

PS..CJ often got carried away with himself...Mr3cushion was just a complete blank!..His comments were usually indecipherable!..:rolleyes:

Hmmmmm....
 
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