Trying to let everyone know your in the "know"
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iba7467 said:
Not all of us bang our sisters while swinging on the engine block
Williebetmore said:
I with Willie on this one. I shake my head "yes' and add a lot of "uh huhs". Then when somebody asks me whats going on because I got it straight from the horses mouth I answer, "I'm still trying to figure it out, ask 'em yourself."
Yep, I must agree that this is one weak thread. All that Justin does for the sport and some yahoo feels like bee-yatch-ing because of a comprehension. Like Wilie and Renard, I often just pretend to understand but usually figure it out eventually. Sometimes not, but who really cares. Not getting it is half of the fun..JMHO
Im not against slang or jargon WHEN ITS NECESSARY. I picked on TAR a little bit because its a company and companies should try to be professional. Using slang beyond what is necessary and/or using it in a confusing way is just silly. Im confident enough in my pool knowledge to know this is the equivalent to a classroom where if someone has a question there are a lot of other people that have the same question. Sure there are always those who say to themselves, Oh brother why would you ask that, or say that. Consider this me sticking up for those who don't understand slang when people needlessly go out of their way to make things confusing. I don't really care what anyone thinks regarding this, just letting you guys know how childish the OVER use of slang is.
Don't be a baby ass(slang for "*****"), the slang is off the chain brosef (slang for " it's a real humdinger") the scrilla-less ( slang for "free") feeds are the bombino ( slang for "the shit")
RunoutalloverU said:
I think the point everyone else was trying to make is that the slang IS necessary. It's what makes the character of the gamble. It's how the majority rolls, so to speak. It's all about the vibe and the personality of gambling and sweating the gamble (totally a term I learned on here, by the way!
) And this is coming from someone who doesn't even really get gambling, but I can still see that the slang is all a part of it. And to say that JCIN (or anyone else) is using the slang in an effort to look cool or "in the know" (as you put it) is just insulting to them. We all think JCIN is pretty cool, slang or not, and I promise you he isn't trying to impress you by confusing you. TAR being a "company" doesn't mean they should be "professional" by your terms... they are being professional as it relates to what they do. To not use the proper slang terms would be unprofessional, in my opinion. Lawyers/doctors, etc. have their own slang too, and they adhere to that to get their jobs done. The boys of TAR have gained the type of respect they have BECAUSE they know WTF they are talking about.
(added some slang of my own, just for the hell of it
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I think I love you........lodini said:I think the point everyone else was trying to make is that the slang IS necessary. It's what makes the character of the gamble. It's how the majority rolls, so to speak. It's all about the vibe and the personality of gambling and sweating the gamble (totally a term I learned on here, by the way!
And to say that JCIN (or anyone else) is using the slang in an effort to look cool or "in the know" (as you put it) is just insulting to them. We all think JCIN is pretty cool, slang or not, and I promise you he isn't trying to impress you by confusing you. TAR being a "company" doesn't mean they should be "professional" by your terms... they are being professional as it relates to what they do. To not use the proper slang terms would be unprofessional, in my opinion. Lawyers/doctors, etc. have their own slang too, and they adhere to that to get their jobs done. The boys of TAR have gained the type of respect they have BECAUSE they know WTF they are talking about.
j/k. Great common sense post. If you don't "get it" it simply means you haven't lived it and are ripe to learn. Don't criticize the teacher if you are the pupil.
Here you go...
action: As in, "At the Pool Room, there's action around the
clock". Action is another word for gambling.
around the world: A common way to keep track of games won when
playing for small money is to use a coin that is placed
under the rail next to the diamonds on the rail. The
center diamond at the head of the table is taken as zero,
and each diamond from that is considered to be one game.
To go 'around the world' is to beat your opponent so
badly that the coin travels all the way around the
diamonds on the table.
bad hit: To fail to make a legal shot.
ball in hand: A rule that when one player commits a foul or scratch,
his opponent can place the cueball anywhere on the table,
and start shooting from that point.
barrels: As in, "I have ten barrels at $20 a game". A barrel is
how much money per game a player is betting.
Barney BAll: the four ball
firing/shooting air barrels: As in, "That s.o.b. can't pay up, he
was shooting air barrels the whole time". Refers to
a person gambling when he has no money.
clean: As in, "Shots on the eight must go clean". This means that
when shooting the eight, it has to go into the pocket without
contacting any other balls. This is a common bar rule, but not
included in any official rule set.
(to) clock: To carefully note the abilities or betting inclinations
of other players for future reference.
a dime: As in, "We were betting a dime a set.". One thousand dollars.
dog the nine: In nineball, to have a simple shot on the nine, but to
miss it due to the pressure. Can apply to missing any shot,
as in "Joe dogged it".
even up: As in, "Let's even up". To pay whatever money is owed to
the winner before continuing.
freeze up the money: Same as 'money in the rack'.
front runner: As in, "Joe is a strong front runner". Refers to
a player's ability to win a race when he is already ahead
by a few games
frozen: For a ball to be touching the rail or another ball.
get in gear: To play at one's highest level. Sometimes heard in the
form 'high gear'.
go off: As in, "Joe could go off at any time". To start playing for
small money, and after losing at that, to raise the stakes
and keep losing until one is broke.
hanging in the pocket: Describes a ball that is right in front of
the pocket.
hold your man: Refers to when a player in a ring game misses and
leaves no shot for the next player.
hook(ed): As in, "Joe is known as Captain Hook". Whenever
one of the players shoots and misses, but by luck or
design leaves his opponent no shot. Often used without the
connotation of luck.
horse: A player who is playing for another's bet, either by
mutual agreement or as the result of a calcutta.
house rules: Many pool halls/bars have their own twists on the standard
rules to the game. Find out what they might be before you
start to play. The convention is that when you play in
someone else's pool room, you are playing by their rules.
house win: When two players break even, and the only money to change
hands is that given to pay for table time.
hustle: As in, "Joe has a good hustle going". This means misleading
others about your true ability and taking advantage of it
by gambling with them and others. Also refers to cheating
in general.
in jail: As in, "I put him in jail".
Without a shot; safe.
(to) jack up: As in, "When shooting over another ball, you have to jack
up your cue". Refers to elevating the butt of the cue
higher than one normally does to shoot.
jawed: When the object ball bounces between the two tits of a pocket and
fails to fall into the pocket--as in "Frank just got Jawed".
kick shot: Where one shoots the cue ball into one or more rails before
it contacts the object ball.
last two: A spot at nine ball in which
the spottee wins if he pockets the ball before the nine ball.
Different from "the wild eight" in that if the eight is sunk early,
it is not special, and the seven is promoted.
(to) lemonade: To intentionally play below ones speed. Also, to go on the lemon.
See "stall"
liking it: As in, "Joe beat him out of $300, and his opponent was
liking it so much he wants to play Joe some more!".
To believe that one has real winning chances, even when
one is losing.
(a) lock: As in "this game is a lock for Joe". This means that
he has no chance of losing. The result is "a robbery."
lock/handcuff artist: Someone that will only gamble when he is
sure he will win.
money ball: The ball, that when pocketed, wins the game.
(put the) money in the rack: When playing for a significant amount of
money, having the players put the money on a table to 1)
show that they have it, and 2) keep the loser from running
out the door without paying. Also, "to post the money."
nit: Player or side-better not willing to bet high enough
in the eyes of the accusor. Often, anyone who is unwilling to
take any chance with money. "He's such a nit, he wouldn't
bet that water's wet."
(the) nuts: As in, "Joe has the nuts". The player who has 'the nuts'
is heavily favored to win. Sometimes heard as
'the Brazilian nuts', 'the Brazilians', or 'the stone
cold nuts'. Basically means a sure thing. If it is
really bad, you might hear 'the stone cold Brazilian
nuts', but that is overdoing it a bit.
On the hill: A player is said to be 'on the hill' when he needs to
win just one more game to win the set. Sometimes
expressed as 'hill-hill' or 'double-hill' if both players
need just one more win to claim the set. If you win
the set you have managed to get 'over the hill'.
on the side: As in, "I will bet you $50 on the side". A bet made by a
bystander with one of the players in a match.
Orange Crush: 5 ball
put/turn on the heat/torch: When a player begins to beat his opponent
very badly.
race to: As in, "A race to seven games", or just "A race to
seven". The first player to win seven games wins. Means
the same as "a match to seven games".
rat in: As in, "Joe rat in the nine-ball". To make a ball by luck.
Typically said of shooting a ball for a given pocket,
and having it fall in some other pocket. To 'shit in' a
ball means the same thing. Commonly said in nine-ball.
ring game: A nineball game played by more than two players. The
players shoot in some fixed order, with winner breaks.
There is no playing safe in this game. Always played for
money.
road player: As in, "Buddy Hall is the best road player ever".
A pool player that travels around and makes his living
gambling at the game. Same as a `road warrior'.
roll: As in, "Joe got a bad roll". Refers to when the player
shooting has something unlucky happen to him.
rolling the cheese: To either another ball into the nine-ball, or carom
into the nine-ball, in the hopes that it will find a
pocket. Also known as 'riding the nine'.
run out: To break and shoot in all the balls without giving your
opponent a chance to shoot.
(make a) score: To win a large amount of money.
(to) sell out: To leave a good shot for the next player.
session: A session consists of one or more sets. Typically, a
session is over when someone is broke, or when both players
decide they need to get some sleep. A session can last
for a couple of days non-stop.
set: As in, "They are playing a set for $300". A set consists
of a predetermined number of games or race(s) that are played
for a fixed amount of money.
(to) shark: As in, "He sharked me!". To shark someone is to distract
them while they are in the act of shooting.
shortstop: A second-rank player who will beat most or all of the
local room players but who will need weight from a touring pro.
six-ahead: Whoever wins six games more than the other player
wins the set. Also 'Five-Ahead', 'Seven-ahead',
'Nine-ahead', etc... If you are playing 'six ahead' for
$30 it is the same as playing for $5 a game and
'locking in' at least a 6 game swing before you pay.
speed: As in, "Joe and Fred have the same speed". Refers to how
well a person plays the game. 'Top speed' refers to the
best that person can play.
spot (noun and verb): A handicap or to give a handicap.
In nine ball, the weaker player may need to win fewer games to win a
set, or may win if he pockets the eight ball, or seven, etc. More
exotic spots include playing wrong-handed or one-handed. See also:
weight.
stake horse: A person with money who backs a player who has
no money or no willingness to bet his own money. See "horse"
stall: As in "Joe get off the stall, I know you're a better player
than this." The person is playing below his ability in
order to obtain a more favorable match at a later time.
Hiding your true skill.
straight up: As in, "Let's play straight up." To play a match where
there is no handicap.
sweating the action: As in, "People were sweating the action all
over the room". Refers to people other than the
players betting on the game.
the table's wet: A table where the balls are moving slower than usual
due to high humidity ( a Florida specialty ).
ten-game $500-freeze-out: To play for $50 a game, but to fix it so
that one of the players has to lose $500.
tip-tapper: As in, "It's a tip-tapper!". Describes a shot where one
has a chance to miscue. Usually heard in reference to long
draw shots. Comes from the tool ( a tip tapper ) used to
scuff the tip of a cue so that it will hold chalk.
the tit: As in, "the ball ran straight into the tit". The 'tit'
is used to refer to the corner of the side pocket on pocket
billiards tables. Many shots meant for the side and even
rail shots that have to pass by the side end up hitting
the side 'tittie', usually causing a miss.
tournament tough: a player who during the course of a tournament does
not lose focus. Typically said of those players that
regularly make it to the finals of a tournament.
weight: As in, "You're a champion. To play you, I need some
weight". Basically, a mutually agreed upon modification
to the game so that players of disparate skill levels can
compete against each other in a meaningful way. For
example, if you are playing someone much worse than you
at nineball, you can make it so that if they make the
eight-ball, they win. One can either 'give weight' or
'get weight'.
whitey: The cue ball. Also, "the rock."
wild: At nine ball, a "wild eight" is a handicap
such that the weaker player wins if he pockets the eight
ball at any time. This is a large spot between weak
players, but not much of a spot between champions.
This spot can be extended to more or lower balls, such as
the wild five and seven.
(on the) wire: As in, "Joe got two games on the wire in a race to nine".
A form of handicapping where the player getting games
'on the wire' has to win fewer games than his opponent.
In the example cited, Joe only needs to win seven games,
while his opponent needs to win nine. Sometimes referred
to as "across the strings", from the markers on a string
that are used to keep score.
Other terms not yet included:
dump (to throw a game, also double dump, triple dump)
business (arrangements to throw a game)
saver (agreement between two players to split prize monies)
action: As in, "At the Pool Room, there's action around the
clock". Action is another word for gambling.
around the world: A common way to keep track of games won when
playing for small money is to use a coin that is placed
under the rail next to the diamonds on the rail. The
center diamond at the head of the table is taken as zero,
and each diamond from that is considered to be one game.
To go 'around the world' is to beat your opponent so
badly that the coin travels all the way around the
diamonds on the table.
bad hit: To fail to make a legal shot.
ball in hand: A rule that when one player commits a foul or scratch,
his opponent can place the cueball anywhere on the table,
and start shooting from that point.
barrels: As in, "I have ten barrels at $20 a game". A barrel is
how much money per game a player is betting.
Barney BAll: the four ball
firing/shooting air barrels: As in, "That s.o.b. can't pay up, he
was shooting air barrels the whole time". Refers to
a person gambling when he has no money.
clean: As in, "Shots on the eight must go clean". This means that
when shooting the eight, it has to go into the pocket without
contacting any other balls. This is a common bar rule, but not
included in any official rule set.
(to) clock: To carefully note the abilities or betting inclinations
of other players for future reference.
a dime: As in, "We were betting a dime a set.". One thousand dollars.
dog the nine: In nineball, to have a simple shot on the nine, but to
miss it due to the pressure. Can apply to missing any shot,
as in "Joe dogged it".
even up: As in, "Let's even up". To pay whatever money is owed to
the winner before continuing.
freeze up the money: Same as 'money in the rack'.
front runner: As in, "Joe is a strong front runner". Refers to
a player's ability to win a race when he is already ahead
by a few games
frozen: For a ball to be touching the rail or another ball.
get in gear: To play at one's highest level. Sometimes heard in the
form 'high gear'.
go off: As in, "Joe could go off at any time". To start playing for
small money, and after losing at that, to raise the stakes
and keep losing until one is broke.
hanging in the pocket: Describes a ball that is right in front of
the pocket.
hold your man: Refers to when a player in a ring game misses and
leaves no shot for the next player.
hook(ed): As in, "Joe is known as Captain Hook". Whenever
one of the players shoots and misses, but by luck or
design leaves his opponent no shot. Often used without the
connotation of luck.
horse: A player who is playing for another's bet, either by
mutual agreement or as the result of a calcutta.
house rules: Many pool halls/bars have their own twists on the standard
rules to the game. Find out what they might be before you
start to play. The convention is that when you play in
someone else's pool room, you are playing by their rules.
house win: When two players break even, and the only money to change
hands is that given to pay for table time.
hustle: As in, "Joe has a good hustle going". This means misleading
others about your true ability and taking advantage of it
by gambling with them and others. Also refers to cheating
in general.
in jail: As in, "I put him in jail".
Without a shot; safe.
(to) jack up: As in, "When shooting over another ball, you have to jack
up your cue". Refers to elevating the butt of the cue
higher than one normally does to shoot.
jawed: When the object ball bounces between the two tits of a pocket and
fails to fall into the pocket--as in "Frank just got Jawed".
kick shot: Where one shoots the cue ball into one or more rails before
it contacts the object ball.
last two: A spot at nine ball in which
the spottee wins if he pockets the ball before the nine ball.
Different from "the wild eight" in that if the eight is sunk early,
it is not special, and the seven is promoted.
(to) lemonade: To intentionally play below ones speed. Also, to go on the lemon.
See "stall"
liking it: As in, "Joe beat him out of $300, and his opponent was
liking it so much he wants to play Joe some more!".
To believe that one has real winning chances, even when
one is losing.
(a) lock: As in "this game is a lock for Joe". This means that
he has no chance of losing. The result is "a robbery."
lock/handcuff artist: Someone that will only gamble when he is
sure he will win.
money ball: The ball, that when pocketed, wins the game.
(put the) money in the rack: When playing for a significant amount of
money, having the players put the money on a table to 1)
show that they have it, and 2) keep the loser from running
out the door without paying. Also, "to post the money."
nit: Player or side-better not willing to bet high enough
in the eyes of the accusor. Often, anyone who is unwilling to
take any chance with money. "He's such a nit, he wouldn't
bet that water's wet."
(the) nuts: As in, "Joe has the nuts". The player who has 'the nuts'
is heavily favored to win. Sometimes heard as
'the Brazilian nuts', 'the Brazilians', or 'the stone
cold nuts'. Basically means a sure thing. If it is
really bad, you might hear 'the stone cold Brazilian
nuts', but that is overdoing it a bit.
On the hill: A player is said to be 'on the hill' when he needs to
win just one more game to win the set. Sometimes
expressed as 'hill-hill' or 'double-hill' if both players
need just one more win to claim the set. If you win
the set you have managed to get 'over the hill'.
on the side: As in, "I will bet you $50 on the side". A bet made by a
bystander with one of the players in a match.
Orange Crush: 5 ball
put/turn on the heat/torch: When a player begins to beat his opponent
very badly.
race to: As in, "A race to seven games", or just "A race to
seven". The first player to win seven games wins. Means
the same as "a match to seven games".
rat in: As in, "Joe rat in the nine-ball". To make a ball by luck.
Typically said of shooting a ball for a given pocket,
and having it fall in some other pocket. To 'shit in' a
ball means the same thing. Commonly said in nine-ball.
ring game: A nineball game played by more than two players. The
players shoot in some fixed order, with winner breaks.
There is no playing safe in this game. Always played for
money.
road player: As in, "Buddy Hall is the best road player ever".
A pool player that travels around and makes his living
gambling at the game. Same as a `road warrior'.
roll: As in, "Joe got a bad roll". Refers to when the player
shooting has something unlucky happen to him.
rolling the cheese: To either another ball into the nine-ball, or carom
into the nine-ball, in the hopes that it will find a
pocket. Also known as 'riding the nine'.
run out: To break and shoot in all the balls without giving your
opponent a chance to shoot.
(make a) score: To win a large amount of money.
(to) sell out: To leave a good shot for the next player.
session: A session consists of one or more sets. Typically, a
session is over when someone is broke, or when both players
decide they need to get some sleep. A session can last
for a couple of days non-stop.
set: As in, "They are playing a set for $300". A set consists
of a predetermined number of games or race(s) that are played
for a fixed amount of money.
(to) shark: As in, "He sharked me!". To shark someone is to distract
them while they are in the act of shooting.
shortstop: A second-rank player who will beat most or all of the
local room players but who will need weight from a touring pro.
six-ahead: Whoever wins six games more than the other player
wins the set. Also 'Five-Ahead', 'Seven-ahead',
'Nine-ahead', etc... If you are playing 'six ahead' for
$30 it is the same as playing for $5 a game and
'locking in' at least a 6 game swing before you pay.
speed: As in, "Joe and Fred have the same speed". Refers to how
well a person plays the game. 'Top speed' refers to the
best that person can play.
spot (noun and verb): A handicap or to give a handicap.
In nine ball, the weaker player may need to win fewer games to win a
set, or may win if he pockets the eight ball, or seven, etc. More
exotic spots include playing wrong-handed or one-handed. See also:
weight.
stake horse: A person with money who backs a player who has
no money or no willingness to bet his own money. See "horse"
stall: As in "Joe get off the stall, I know you're a better player
than this." The person is playing below his ability in
order to obtain a more favorable match at a later time.
Hiding your true skill.
straight up: As in, "Let's play straight up." To play a match where
there is no handicap.
sweating the action: As in, "People were sweating the action all
over the room". Refers to people other than the
players betting on the game.
the table's wet: A table where the balls are moving slower than usual
due to high humidity ( a Florida specialty ).
ten-game $500-freeze-out: To play for $50 a game, but to fix it so
that one of the players has to lose $500.
tip-tapper: As in, "It's a tip-tapper!". Describes a shot where one
has a chance to miscue. Usually heard in reference to long
draw shots. Comes from the tool ( a tip tapper ) used to
scuff the tip of a cue so that it will hold chalk.
the tit: As in, "the ball ran straight into the tit". The 'tit'
is used to refer to the corner of the side pocket on pocket
billiards tables. Many shots meant for the side and even
rail shots that have to pass by the side end up hitting
the side 'tittie', usually causing a miss.
tournament tough: a player who during the course of a tournament does
not lose focus. Typically said of those players that
regularly make it to the finals of a tournament.
weight: As in, "You're a champion. To play you, I need some
weight". Basically, a mutually agreed upon modification
to the game so that players of disparate skill levels can
compete against each other in a meaningful way. For
example, if you are playing someone much worse than you
at nineball, you can make it so that if they make the
eight-ball, they win. One can either 'give weight' or
'get weight'.
whitey: The cue ball. Also, "the rock."
wild: At nine ball, a "wild eight" is a handicap
such that the weaker player wins if he pockets the eight
ball at any time. This is a large spot between weak
players, but not much of a spot between champions.
This spot can be extended to more or lower balls, such as
the wild five and seven.
(on the) wire: As in, "Joe got two games on the wire in a race to nine".
A form of handicapping where the player getting games
'on the wire' has to win fewer games than his opponent.
In the example cited, Joe only needs to win seven games,
while his opponent needs to win nine. Sometimes referred
to as "across the strings", from the markers on a string
that are used to keep score.
Other terms not yet included:
dump (to throw a game, also double dump, triple dump)
business (arrangements to throw a game)
saver (agreement between two players to split prize monies)
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RunoutalloverU said:
I guess it's asking too much to show a little humility and apologize for disrespecting a member who is actually respected on this board. Instead we get the same worthless dribble saying he doesn't care what we think. Thanks for letting us know how childish over use of pool lingo is, this is me letting you know how childish & moronic your comment are.
Slang
JCIN, you just use all the "slang" you want, because "we as pool players" are "in the know!"
Back in 1973, I was 14 yrs., from Warren, Arkansas, went to Greenville, Miss. with my brother to watch him play some pool one night, ..... well my brother was playng and I wanted to play some ,.....so I ask this older guy to play some and he said.....
"I'll take the Black and the Crack!".....do what... I said?......hehe......I didn't know if he wanted to "rape a black women" or "smoke heroin in a pipe!"
Now I know, and have known after that night , he just wanted the eight and
and all the breaks!.....that's slang!
David Harcrow
JCIN, you just use all the "slang" you want, because "we as pool players" are "in the know!"
Back in 1973, I was 14 yrs., from Warren, Arkansas, went to Greenville, Miss. with my brother to watch him play some pool one night, ..... well my brother was playng and I wanted to play some ,.....so I ask this older guy to play some and he said.....
"I'll take the Black and the Crack!".....do what... I said?......hehe......I didn't know if he wanted to "rape a black women" or "smoke heroin in a pipe!"
Now I know, and have known after that night , he just wanted the eight and
and all the breaks!.....that's slang!
David Harcrow
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DeadPoked said:
being respected in no way should exclude someone from criticism.