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Trying to locate a kicking system
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Holy SHITE...... He lives folks...... :thumbup:
That never stopped you from trying though did it ya #!*%$#......... :thumbup:
Good question.
Like its been said before, its a reference. Once you learn the systems, you have a better understanding of how the diamonds connect, then feel takes over. That type of knowledge is never a bad thing......... And there are times when you can actually break them back out if you are having trouble "seeing it" on a particular day.
Part of my 'warmup' time in tournaments is shooting the 3 railer to see what goes to the corner, and then a plus system shot to see if the table plays long or short. Useful information, especially if you are playing someone who will hook you a lot.
Check out how Alex Pagulayan tests the table in the background before his match. The reason I remember this is because I've watched this match so many times. Two of my favorite players finally played each other, Shane Van Boening and Carlo Biado.
https://youtu.be/8r6cjSdP34o?t=11m24s
https://youtu.be/8r6cjSdP34o?t=11m24s
that photo comes from an ebook 2 in a series of 6 ebooks
called hot shots pool
lots of great info in those ebooks and well worth the price to buy the series
http://hotshotsplus.com/
In addition to using systems for kicking purposes, I also use the kicking systems for playing safeties. The Zero-X 3 rail system is very easy to use to find the "tract" you need to shoot on to clip the OB and follow that "tract" to hide the CB 3 rails behind another ball. Same thing for some 2 rail safeties or break-outs.
As Chuck said, as you use them more and more feel takes over and understanding where the CB is going off multiple rails becomes just another thing you see on the table.
As Chuck said, as you use them more and more feel takes over and understanding where the CB is going off multiple rails becomes just another thing you see on the table.
This is a situation where knowing a kicking system helps because I know the definite tract that will head towards this cluster and break them out. It'd be very easy to get up and shoot the one ball and kinda guess about what you need to do to break that cluster out but I'll lean on a system for precision here.
and in this situation, I use system to find the 3 rail safety option. These use one tip of running English and are deadly accurate. Again, I could get up and kinda guess as to where I need to hit the OB to go three rails behind another OB but I like to use systems here.
and in this situation, I use system to find the 3 rail safety option. These use one tip of running English and are deadly accurate. Again, I could get up and kinda guess as to where I need to hit the OB to go three rails behind another OB but I like to use systems here.
banks and kicks are the most feel based of shots...
Banks and kicks are the most feel based of any shot on the table...
That being said, anything that gives you a consistent starting point will ALWAYS improve your ability to make a shot.
I've posted an illustration of my kicking and banking system on here before and I still think it is the most accurate of the systems out there. I will try to find it and edit this post with a link to it.
Jaden
p.s. here it is...
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=369861&highlight=kicking+system
Banks and kicks are the most feel based of any shot on the table...
That being said, anything that gives you a consistent starting point will ALWAYS improve your ability to make a shot.
I've posted an illustration of my kicking and banking system on here before and I still think it is the most accurate of the systems out there. I will try to find it and edit this post with a link to it.
Jaden
p.s. here it is...
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=369861&highlight=kicking+system
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That is the one! Thanks Scott!
How does he get 3-0? What tells you its on 3? Looks like either 2.25 or 3.8 how I count diamonds? How does 3 get called out?
He's not. I don't know why the 3-0, is there but if you look at it it's going from 4 to 0 and tracking towards 4 again.
As for the 1 at 2 hitting 3. He's using the rails as the points and not the diamonds.
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OK so there's no reason for calling it #3 but there is a reason for calling out #1. I get it. There's an adjustment somewhere and you need buy the book to fully comprehend that 3 really isn't 3 unless 0 lines up with 3.8 then you're on the three line. Or maybe with a 6" bridge on this shot you're bridge hand determines #3.
Yep I think I have it.
This looks like the Plus System that Dr. Dave describes here:This is a situation where knowing a kicking system helps because I know the definite tract that will head towards this cluster and break them out. It'd be very easy to get up and shoot the one ball and kinda guess about what you need to do to break that cluster out but I'll lean on a system for precision here.
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/banks_and_kicks.html#Plus
I use it often.
pj
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Yes, exactly the same system.
I don't remember the names of all the systems I know, or use and they kinda all merge together lol.
And, many of the same systems show up in different videos and diagrams. Exact same system though.
See, this is why Im thinking there is something missing. The diagram that I drew and attached looks just like the one in the video, but I still think something is missing compared to the original diagram I saw. The end rail had 2 sets of numbers IIRC, and you added or subtracted depending on which direction you go.
This system is highly sensitive to speed and spin. If the cb is too close to the end rail etc, the rail will put running english on the ball etc. So its best used as a starting point.
I wish I could find the original diagram......
Not sure if you have this or not - I have had it up on my website for years. There is a lot of great information in there.
Kicking Academy by Dead Aim
Kicking Academy by Dead Aim
See, this is why Im thinking there is something missing. The diagram that I drew and attached looks just like the one in the video, but I still think something is missing compared to the original diagram I saw. The end rail had 2 sets of numbers IIRC, and you added or subtracted depending on which direction you go.
This system is highly sensitive to speed and spin. If the cb is too close to the end rail etc, the rail will put running english on the ball etc. So its best used as a starting point.
I wish I could find the original diagram......
what does iirc stand for??
If I remember correctly.......... It means............
thanks
the only system where the end numbers have 2 different values is in tors xero-x
that i am aware of