Tune up by the Tin Man!

Nick B

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Let me start with with a little background. I'm 56 and have been playing for longer than I want to admit. At 16 it was 8-ball on 10 footers. Quickly graduated snooker and by the time I was 19 could rattle off the occasional 100. Well school and a girl got in the way and I picked the game back up in my late 20's. By then all the snooker in Canada was on it's way out and I gravitated to pool (with the occasional game of Golf on a 12 footer). And the passion came back. I slowly started playing all the games. Even 14.1 and 1PKT which is almost nonexistent up here. Self taught. Thank you Youtube. I got good fundamentals, touch and thankfully great eyesight. Can make few balls but at 56 my best years are behind me. To date I have been lucky and not seen a decay , except for being able to play all night. But with, a wife, two kids and business to run I don't have time for that anyway. Nowadays I'm lucky if I get out twice a week for a few hours.

Well I figured if I ever got to Minneapolis I would see a man about a "tune up". That man is Demetrius Jelatis (The Tin Man) from MN Boot Camp.
www.mnpoolbootcamp.com/ Well as luck would have it my business brought me there so I reached out to Demetrius. I've seen him play online and the best way to describe the man is...he doesn't beat himself. He gets the absolute maximum juice out of his lemon. So with zero expectations and a open mind I show up at his place for a three day overhaul.

Now I won't get into a point by point dissertation abut what he covers. I'm sure it varies by student. For me it was a quick look at my fundamentals, ball pocketing and shape play. He had very little (aka nothing to say about the first two) and 3 days of tension about the third. How can I put it. He thought I played like an a-hole. Too much feel and dependency on shot making to get me out of trouble. In short he was right. Over the years I had developed a laissez-faire approach to position play. Rarely unless it was critical did I actually go over and look at where I wanted to be...let alone pick a spot. This is not Demetrius' approach to the game. He is laser focused on running the balls in as simply and solid manner as possible and he preaches fundamental and time tested simply transitions that work. Most I knew but you always learn something.

Fast forward three weeks and he has ruined me. Now I see the table through his eyes and hear his voice in my head. He has taken all the fun out of the ride. I'm getting out of more racks and I have definitely taken some of the mustard out of my hot dog. It looks like the lessons have stuck. For those who are old enough to remember this clip:
I guess I just had to see the proof. Thank you Demetrius. But I still reserve the right to do the occasional burn out.

For those of you who still can't beat the ghost and you are looking at buying your 4th carbon fiber shaft. Well save up a couple more dollars and give the Tin Man a call. Best money I ever spent on my game. Great player and student of the game.
 
nick
great to hear demi could help you (he helps everyone)
you were already a beast at the table
now demi created a MONSTER .... (y)
p.s.
this is lll from onepocket dot org
 
Let me start with with a little background. I'm 56 and have been playing for longer than I want to admit. At 16 it was 8-ball on 10 footers. Quickly graduated snooker and by the time I was 19 could rattle off the occasional 100. Well school and a girl got in the way and I picked the game back up in my late 20's. By then all the snooker in Canada was on it's way out and I gravitated to pool (with the occasional game of Golf on a 12 footer). And the passion came back. I slowly started playing all the games. Even 14.1 and 1PKT which is almost nonexistent up here. Self taught. Thank you Youtube. I got good fundamentals, touch and thankfully great eyesight. Can make few balls but at 56 my best years are behind me. To date I have been lucky and not seen a decay , except for being able to play all night. But with, a wife, two kids and business to run I don't have time for that anyway. Nowadays I'm lucky if I get out twice a week for a few hours.

Well I figured if I ever got to Minneapolis I would see a man about a "tune up". That man is Demetrius Jelatis (The Tin Man) from MN Boot Camp.
www.mnpoolbootcamp.com/ Well as luck would have it my business brought me there so I reached out to Demetrius. I've seen him play online and the best way to describe the man is...he doesn't beat himself. He gets the absolute maximum juice out of his lemon. So with zero expectations and a open mind I show up at his place for a three day overhaul.

Now I won't get into a point by point dissertation abut what he covers. I'm sure it varies by student. For me it was a quick look at my fundamentals, ball pocketing and shape play. He had very little (aka nothing to say about the first two) and 3 days of tension about the third. How can I put it. He thought I played like an a-hole. Too much feel and dependency on shot making to get me out of trouble. In short he was right. Over the years I had developed a laissez-faire approach to position play. Rarely unless it was critical did I actually go over and look at where I wanted to be...let alone pick a spot. This is not Demetrius' approach to the game. He is laser focused on running the balls in as simply and solid manner as possible and he preaches fundamental and time tested simply transitions that work. Most I knew but you always learn something.

Fast forward three weeks and he has ruined me. Now I see the table through his eyes and hear his voice in my head. He has taken all the fun out of the ride. I'm getting out of more racks and I have definitely taken some of the mustard out of my hot dog. It looks like the lessons have stuck. For those who are old enough to remember this clip:
I guess I just had to see the proof. Thank you Demetrius. But I still reserve the right to do the occasional burn out.

For those of you who still can't beat the ghost and you are looking at buying your 4th carbon fiber shaft. Well save up a couple more dollars and give the Tin Man a call. Best money I ever spent on my game. Great player and student of the game.
This is exactly what I experienced after the three day course with. Randy Goettlicher and Scott Lee many years ago. They were running Cuetech Pool School. I took the school outside Charlotte NC. Best money I ever spent on pool.. RIP Scott you were appreciated and are missed..

Sounds to me like Tin Man is the man!! Great story.. Congratulations on your success...
 
For those of you who still can't beat the ghost and you are looking at buying your 4th carbon fiber shaft. Well save up a couple more dollars and give the Tin Man a call.
Nice...lol

I have zero experience with formal lessons but still couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Thanks for the writeup. When you are in Saskatoon please call someone else now.

Dave
 
Thanks for the writeup. When you are in Saskatoon please call someone else now.

Dave
A little birdie told me a few of the locals are starting to play some 1PKT out there. I have been meaning to come out and see for myself. But alas if we don't get Covid thing past us it might be when I'm 70. I smell more travel restrictions are in the air.
 
Let me start with with a little background. I'm 56 and have been playing for longer than I want to admit. At 16 it was 8-ball on 10 footers. Quickly graduated snooker and by the time I was 19 could rattle off the occasional 100. Well school and a girl got in the way and I picked the game back up in my late 20's. By then all the snooker in Canada was on it's way out and I gravitated to pool (with the occasional game of Golf on a 12 footer). And the passion came back. I slowly started playing all the games. Even 14.1 and 1PKT which is almost nonexistent up here. Self taught. Thank you Youtube. I got good fundamentals, touch and thankfully great eyesight. Can make few balls but at 56 my best years are behind me. To date I have been lucky and not seen a decay , except for being able to play all night. But with, a wife, two kids and business to run I don't have time for that anyway. Nowadays I'm lucky if I get out twice a week for a few hours.

Well I figured if I ever got to Minneapolis I would see a man about a "tune up". That man is Demetrius Jelatis (The Tin Man) from MN Boot Camp.
www.mnpoolbootcamp.com/ Well as luck would have it my business brought me there so I reached out to Demetrius. I've seen him play online and the best way to describe the man is...he doesn't beat himself. He gets the absolute maximum juice out of his lemon. So with zero expectations and a open mind I show up at his place for a three day overhaul.

Now I won't get into a point by point dissertation abut what he covers. I'm sure it varies by student. For me it was a quick look at my fundamentals, ball pocketing and shape play. He had very little (aka nothing to say about the first two) and 3 days of tension about the third. How can I put it. He thought I played like an a-hole. Too much feel and dependency on shot making to get me out of trouble. In short he was right. Over the years I had developed a laissez-faire approach to position play. Rarely unless it was critical did I actually go over and look at where I wanted to be...let alone pick a spot. This is not Demetrius' approach to the game. He is laser focused on running the balls in as simply and solid manner as possible and he preaches fundamental and time tested simply transitions that work. Most I knew but you always learn something.

Fast forward three weeks and he has ruined me. Now I see the table through his eyes and hear his voice in my head. He has taken all the fun out of the ride. I'm getting out of more racks and I have definitely taken some of the mustard out of my hot dog. It looks like the lessons have stuck. For those who are old enough to remember this clip:
I guess I just had to see the proof. Thank you Demetrius. But I still reserve the right to do the occasional burn out.

For those of you who still can't beat the ghost and you are looking at buying your 4th carbon fiber shaft. Well save up a couple more dollars and give the Tin Man a call. Best money I ever spent on my game. Great player and student of the game.
Kudos to you for being open to improvement, not everyone has the wisdom to choose to learn from someone else.
 
Glad to hear you had such a good experience with Tin Man. His very extensive knowledge and his great enthusiasm for the game combine to make him a go-to guy for those looking to improve.
 
This is exactly what I experienced after the three day course with. Randy Goettlicher and Scott Lee many years ago. They were running Cuetech Pool School. I took the school outside Charlotte NC. Best money I ever spent on pool.. RIP Scott you were appreciated and are missed..

Sounds to me like Tin Man is the man!! Great story.. Congratulations on your success...
Scott stopped by my house about 20 years ago . He had the simplest 3 rail kicking method ( that after 14 years of not playing) I forgot
This is exactly what I experienced after the three day course with. Randy Goettlicher and Scott Lee many years ago. They were running Cuetech Pool School. I took the school outside Charlotte NC. Best money I ever spent on pool.. RIP Scott you were appreciated and are missed..

Sounds to me like Tin Man is the man!! Great story.. Congratulations on your success...
Scott was a great instructor, best money ever spent on pool . Very sorry to hear that he passed
 
Nice article Nick. Wish we were able to play some golf while I could still hit em a bit.
Sir just watching you play Golf while I we drank Jack & Coke was honor enough for me. It would have been like Danielson fighting Mr. Miyagi. Somethings are meant not to happen. Hope you are feeling better.
 
A little birdie told me a few of the locals are starting to play some 1PKT out there. I have been meaning to come out and see for myself. But alas if we don't get Covid thing past us it might be when I'm 70. I smell more travel restrictions are in the air.
I hear ya about travel ... we are staying close to home ... haven't been to the pool hall for nearly 2 years now. Let me know before you head this way and I'll put you in touch with the #1 1P guy. He opened an office for himself, mostly as a home for a pool table ... Dougs private club :). There are several who play regularly from what I've heard so your little birdie is accurate.

Dave
 
I hear ya about travel ... we are staying close to home ... haven't been to the pool hall for nearly 2 years now. Let me know before you head this way and I'll put you in touch with the #1 1P guy. He opened an office for himself, mostly as a home for a pool table ... Dougs private club :). There are several who play regularly from what I've heard so your little birdie is accurate.

Dave
Doug is on his way to me. 2PM tomorrow (I hope my employees don't read this forum). The spot I give up is huge but we always have a good time.
 
Hey Nick! Thank you for the kind words!

Man, I had a blast. You were definitely about the strongest player who has come to train with me and I agree that it says a lot you were open minded. There is no doubt you have more knowledge and ability that most, including a number of areas where your skills and understanding are beyond mine. Very impressive!

Sometimes pool isn't about learning new information, but rather about prioritizing the ideas you already know. And at your level even a few small edges add up to a big difference in output. This is what I felt we worked on together. We just put our focus on the right areas at the right times, and bazinga! You went total beast mode!

It was a great session. I LOVE learning new things and there are a number of light bulbs that went off in my head. And I had a blast. I really enjoy how passionate you are as a competitor, yet how warm you are as a person. Must be the greek connection! :)

You told me a great line about someone who got mad at you for quitting a money game where you said "Look, we're not in a long term relationship here." I'm going to borrow that one from you. But as for me and you, I look forward to keeping in contact and maybe even crossing paths at some good open tournaments in the not too distant future. Until then have fun and keep those tires on the track!
 
Glad to hear you had such a good experience with Tin Man. His very extensive knowledge and his great enthusiasm for the game combine to make him a go-to guy for those looking to improve.
Thank you Stu! Ha, you give me a lot of credit. I feel like every time you walk by my table at an event I'm dogging it to someone. I'll see you at Turning Stone and DCC. I can't promise I'll run deep but don't give up on me. It will happen. But it will be worth the flight to Syracuse to catch a meal with you and rail some matches! Merry Christmas and talk soon!
 
I also want to share in a moment of silence for our missed friend Scott Lee. He had an adventurous and rewarding life and I know he enjoyed the ride. I guarantee if there is a table up there God is playing a ball or two better. Miss you pal.
 
Thank you Stu! Ha, you give me a lot of credit. I feel like every time you walk by my table at an event I'm dogging it to someone. I'll see you at Turning Stone and DCC. I can't promise I'll run deep but don't give up on me. It will happen. But it will be worth the flight to Syracuse to catch a meal with you and rail some matches! Merry Christmas and talk soon!
Right on, fella. As things stand at present, I expect to attend both events. See you soon.
 
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