Tunica Turnout

I'm curious, what players (BB) didn't attend this year that attended last year?

Just a small tidbit, the Canadian Championships were on this week in Toronto so John Morra, Jason Klatt and Erik Hjorleifson were also being mind controlled by another Canadian demon organization to not attend.

Aren't they held every Canada Day weekend?

Happy Canada Day eve eh!
 
Are you saying that GS pockets ALL the buy backs? Like a hundo a person times 100 players (ish) an event times three events? So like $30,000?

Whoa.

Yep, many players have complained about it in the past. Do the math. The payouts do not include buy backs.

If they did how could you announce the total payout before the finals. Buy backs go all the way to the end of the tournament.
 
Yep, many players have complained about it in the past. Do the math. The payouts do not include buy backs.

If they did how could you announce the total payout before the finals. Buy backs go all the way to the end of the tournament.

Really? Where does the money come for the Derby City Classic Master of the Tournament come from?

They didn't have one this year at the Southern Classic. I wonder why.

It costs a great deal to put on a week-long event such as this. People don't work for free, and the expenses are weighty.
 
I would be interested in hearing these names also who paid, pulled out and refunded. As far as I know Darren was the only one but if there are more then please let us know. Personally I think the BigFoot challenge works at DCC where the numbers are 3-4 times larger with player participation so I would blame that a bit more.

Some players I am sure pulled out or could not afford to play it who are not even a part of Bonus Ball so can we really say Bonus Ball is to blame? Was this the first year it happening at Tunica? I liked how people thought Bonus Ball would ruin the Ultimate 10 Ball but 22 Bonus Ball players played in it so why did that tournament not have a larger turnout then expected?


Because it was promoted like crap. That's exactly why. Not to many out there no how to promote an event to fill it up. Takes a lot more then just throwing 75 out there, as sad as that sounds.
 
Really? Where does the money come for the Derby City Classic Master of the Tournament come from?

They didn't have one this year at the Southern Classic. I wonder why.

It costs a great deal to put on a week-long event such as this. People don't work for free, and the expenses are weighty.

First, this isn't directed towards you. We've had our chats via PM, you know my side, I know your side.

Oooooh. Now we're going to say how much it costs to run an event and yet Bonus Ball spends more cash than anyone and yet they're supposed to put their season on hold. Wouldn't 'diamond' be the one who puts the money up as a sponsorship? I would guess they 'donate' the tables to the event, get a tax write off for doing it. Same with any 'added' money, which apparently comes from the buy backs. Wonder if the IRS cross checks stuff like that, since people like to make reference to the 1099s RE Bonus Ball.

Seems like we're walking in circles here.
 
First, this isn't directed towards you. We've had our chats via PM, you know my side, I know your side.

Oooooh. Now we're going to say how much it costs to run an event and yet Bonus Ball spends more cash than anyone and yet they're supposed to put their season on hold. Wouldn't 'diamond' be the one who puts the money up as a sponsorship? I would guess they 'donate' the tables to the event, get a tax write off for doing it. Same with any 'added' money, which apparently comes from the buy backs. Wonder if the IRS cross checks stuff like that, since people like to make reference to the 1099s RE Bonus Ball.

Seems like we're walking in circles here.

ETA: Not worth it.
 
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Really? Where does the money come for the Derby City Classic Master of the Tournament come from?

They didn't have one this year at the Southern Classic. I wonder why.

It costs a great deal to put on a week-long event such as this. People don't work for free, and the expenses are weighty.

your post alluded to them not adding the buy back is something new. IT has been like that for years.

I am not saying they don't need to make a profit. But be up front about it. 30k in but backs for 3 events is pretty sweet.
 
your post alluded to them not adding the buy back is something new. IT has been like that for years.

I am not saying they don't need to make a profit. But be up front about it. 30k in but backs for 3 events is pretty sweet.

ETA: Not worth it.
 
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And we dont know if the facility in tunica is a union shop....if so, you can't move a table or hang a light, the union has to do it. And tear it down.

Think that might cost something?
 
Well, the scuttlebut this year at the Southern Classic was that the buyback money wasn't used for an All-Around or Master of the Tournament; whereas, in the previous year, they had one. You can do the math all you want. If schedules hadn't been changed willy-nilly, this thread wouldn't even be here.

As far as 1099s go, I know my other half alway received them for winnings above $600, if memory serves me right.

Expenses of a tournament are weighty. You have door men, TDs, equipment setup, men to do the setup, et cetera, et cetera. It is a shame that the inexperienced staff member at BB changed the schedule to accommodate Ultimate and screw Southern Classic. Nice deal!

How many vendors were at SC? Tickets sold at the door?

When they say 'added money' RE master of the table and Bigfoot money, who do they expect to pay? Buy backs? I thought it was ADDED, like on top of ALL entries paid (including buy backs) Corey Deuel made reference to this at the DCC.
 
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These events costs a lot to put on.
I've put on events in poolrooms where we took tables out and brought others in, there's lots of costs.
And this is an EXPO. huge costs, hotel ballrooms, crews to set up,breakdown, costs for shipping, advertising for months. Diamond is suppose to make money, that's what they are in business for. If they did clear 30k on an event like this, I'd say good for them, it's not worth it, the time and work needed to do it.

Allen Hopkins makes an assload, and everyone seems to keep going there, nothing compares to what he makes. Complete highway robbery.

And the derby city was invented for the gambling/action, not as much the tourneys. It was to be a throwback to say Johnson city. I went to some of the early Derbyshire at the executive west, the real action, now it's nothing like that, not as many action players and not near the money in play.

The best events in America year in year out is the DERBY and the BCA CSI EVENTS, and they are affiliated with one another. I think they got it right. It's been this way for a long while.
 
These events costs a lot to put on.
I've put on events in poolrooms where we took tables out and brought others in, there's lots of costs.
And this is an EXPO. huge costs, hotel ballrooms, crews to set up,breakdown, costs for shipping, advertising for months. Diamond is suppose to make money, that's what they are in business for. If they did clear 30k on an event like this, I'd say good for them, it's not worth it, the time and work needed to do it.

Allen Hopkins makes an assload, and everyone seems to keep going there, nothing compares to what he makes. Complete highway robbery.

And the derby city was invented for the gambling/action, not as much the tourneys. It was to be a throwback to say Johnson city. I went to some of the early Derbyshire at the executive west, the real action, now it's nothing like that, not as many action players and not near the money in play.

The best events in America year in year out is the DERBY and the BCA CSI EVENTS, and they are affiliated with one another. I think they got it right. It's been this way for a long while.

They said 15k added but when they take 8k in buy backs that would mean only 7k added correct.The also get a small % kick back off the hotel rooms.I understand they have to make money.If they dont there would not be a tournament.I just think they should say 7k added instead of using the play on words..The spectator turn out was rather small this year.I dont think it is the best venue.Rooms are literally like half a mile across the way and the action room also is.Having to take a shuttle and fight 4 lb mosquitos seems like a turn off for most.Im sure they will have another southern classic im just not sure it will be in tunica.I personally think they should move it to the coast like Biloxi.I think it would attract more ppl who could find ways to enjoy themselves when not watching a match for 7 days.Florida may be too far away for most to travel..Either way I will be back at it next year forfeiting my matches with 10 players left in the tourney..later players..
 
These events costs a lot to put on.
I've put on events in poolrooms where we took tables out and brought others in, there's lots of costs.
And this is an EXPO. huge costs, hotel ballrooms, crews to set up,breakdown, costs for shipping, advertising for months. Diamond is suppose to make money, that's what they are in business for. If they did clear 30k on an event like this, I'd say good for them, it's not worth it, the time and work needed to do it.

Allen Hopkins makes an assload, and everyone seems to keep going there, nothing compares to what he makes. Complete highway robbery.

And the derby city was invented for the gambling/action, not as much the tourneys. It was to be a throwback to say Johnson city. I went to some of the early Derbyshire at the executive west, the real action, now it's nothing like that, not as many action players and not near the money in play.

The best events in America year in year out is the DERBY and the BCA CSI EVENTS, and they are affiliated with one another. I think they got it right. It's been this way for a long while.

Because the casino is literally right there is why the pool action isnt what it once was. Everytime I walked through the casino the Ohio crew was standing by the crap table either playing or busted. They need to have these tournaments with no casinos in sight and then you will see alot of pool action again. Until they do that the casinos will get it all
 
Because the casino is literally right there is why the pool action isnt what it once was. Everytime I walked through the casino the Ohio crew was standing by the crap table either playing or busted. They need to have these tournaments with no casinos in sight and then you will see alot of pool action again. Until they do that the casinos will get it all

The casinos are the only place that has the rooms and space to have these events. It would cost to much to do it anywhere else. Unless you can find a big hotel chain to sponsor these events that has the space for them.
 
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