I would argue that my racks are, Atleast, adequate. On the 3 occasions that Jen had to rack, she had the same issues i did. The difference was that I don't really check the rack. The most I do is take a quick peak just to let the racker know that I might look and to encourage them to do there best, but I don't actually check the rack. I like to believe that my opponent oh honorable and if not, I'm usually not willing to argue about it.
Tuning Stones XXVl - A Player's Experience
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I would argue that my racks are, Atleast, adequate. On the 3 occasions that Jen had to rack, she had the same issues i did. The difference was that I don't really check the rack. The most I do is take a quick peak just to let the racker know that I might look and to encourage them to do there best, but I don't actually check the rack. I like to believe that my opponent oh honorable and if not, I'm usually not willing to argue about it.
justaplayer
Banned
Hopefully by staying home from Turning Stone 28.
If you do grow a pair and show up, I'll give you the 7 out as promised for all the action you want. I'll come find you there.
Poor poor Rick.....consumate victim mentality.
justaplayer
Banned
Now who's being a sexist? Talking about the girls less than perfect rack. Your mother woukd not be very proud of you sir.
Honor among pool player??? You are crazy.
Flip_dat_Quarta
Banned
Since u don't check the rack, how do u know what kind of problems she was having? That makes no sense. If she was taking a long time to rack that just goes to show that she is making sure they are racked perfect for you. However, you are only providing adequate racks. As I said before, she is at a disadvantage because you either dont want to, or cant rack them as tight as her.
What is the definition of an adequate rack anyways? The wing ball either goes or it doesn't. If it doesn't go, the rack is no good. If it does go, the rack is good. There is no grey area or room for adequacy.
Well, by your definition, she was giving me inadequate racks then since none of my breaks dropped the wing ball. My definition of adequate is the 1 ball is touching the The two balls directly behind the 1 and the back two balls,below the 9, are touching the 9 and the two balls adjacent to the 9. The rest of the balls I try to make reasonably tight. The only way you will get them all frozen consistently is to use s template... Period. You may get a few good racks where they are all touching but most of the time you will have to accept some gaps... It just is what it is. That's why I prefer the magic rack. Both players get the same rack everytime.
And to your last question, I know because she told me it was very difficult to get a tight rack and lamented the racking rules . She offered that.
Thanks for your comments
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Curious...as long as we're operating way down on the level of insulting someone's manhood, do you have the stones to say your real name? You sure talk tough while you're hiding...
Sorry to hear about your negative experience. It was a wonderful and interesting read, though!
I'm rather shocked that a tournament director would not end this shenanigans and I won't hear any excuses about "being neutral".
If he wanst to stay neutral then he can make the rule "you get 1 re-rack and finito". This will put an end to it.
And again, this is what's wrong with Pool and Snooker has done right.
Nobody racks, only the ref.
You have to behave gentleman-like or you get warned, fined and kicked out.
Cheers,
M
I'm rather shocked that a tournament director would not end this shenanigans and I won't hear any excuses about "being neutral".
If he wanst to stay neutral then he can make the rule "you get 1 re-rack and finito". This will put an end to it.
And again, this is what's wrong with Pool and Snooker has done right.
Nobody racks, only the ref.
You have to behave gentleman-like or you get warned, fined and kicked out.
Cheers,
M
Joined last month and is posting quite a bit. Just someone who got the worst of it in some pissing contest on here and created a new account to stir up shit.
I still think he just needs a hug
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justaplayer
Banned
You are my fish.
The OP will be too. See you at TS 27. I like to play 200 a set and go up from there. You can rack your own, use a template or throw the balls on a table from a bucket.
justaplayer
Banned
Who the hell are you? Somebody's mommy. Mind your business fool.
Yep already put justaplayer on ignore. He's added nothing to the conversation. Just wants to talk shit. I'm sure he's an average player and likes to talk tough on the Internet. Believe me he doesn't want to give this guy the 7 and out.
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Probably just some punk that doesn't get much attention. STFU. How bout grow up
and show a bit of respect.
Bill Sullivan
No one's mommy. I'm the guy that suggested you seemed like the type who likes to talk big, but doesn't have the nuts to say your real name. So far you have fully supported this assumption with your posts...
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I've known Mike Zuglan since the early '70s. He has been one of the most liked and respected people in pool in the north east, if not the entire country, since long before I met him. He's probably heard the op's comments/questions about the racking situations a million times. Maybe he didn't respond well. Sorry. Maybe the op didn't really need to ask his questions.
Just sayin'..........
Just sayin'..........
Turning Stone is one of the best run tournaments in the U.S. both from a players and from a spectators point of view.
As to the racking.....men, and ladies, of goodwill should be able to handle the tournament rules on racking i.e. Rack for each other, wooden rack, if rack is in dispute then call the ref. and work out any difficulties between mature people.
I personally would have talked to my opponent when the issue first came up and (hopefully) reached a suitable conclusion. If my opponent was being unreasonable (I find it hard to believe that JB would take an intransigent position requiring a referee) then I would give the best rack possible and sit down with a "if this does not work for you call the referee"
I am left to wonder if the op, based on his implied threat to MZ that players might boycott the tournament and his clear indication at the end of his posted comments that he would not be playing again, had the initial goodwill required to reach an amiable solution with JB; I know that she has it.
As to the racking.....men, and ladies, of goodwill should be able to handle the tournament rules on racking i.e. Rack for each other, wooden rack, if rack is in dispute then call the ref. and work out any difficulties between mature people.
I personally would have talked to my opponent when the issue first came up and (hopefully) reached a suitable conclusion. If my opponent was being unreasonable (I find it hard to believe that JB would take an intransigent position requiring a referee) then I would give the best rack possible and sit down with a "if this does not work for you call the referee"
I am left to wonder if the op, based on his implied threat to MZ that players might boycott the tournament and his clear indication at the end of his posted comments that he would not be playing again, had the initial goodwill required to reach an amiable solution with JB; I know that she has it.