Turning Stone Players List as of 12/26

Cardigan Kid said:
This was announced as a Mosconi cup event at the beginning of last year. There were two turning stones last year, and Dechaine coming on second last summer gave him crucial points to making the team. Corey Duel and the two Justin's all played in the summer turning stone and were in the know about the Mosconi points for this event.

IMO top American players should forgo all one pocket. For every one pocket match they play while tourney or gambling, there is a Euro/Asian player playing rotation and getting better.

And most certainly, the major rotation tournaments in the states should take precedent. But like another poster said, they have to pay the bills, so it's easy for me to say from my living room.

This is still going to be a great tournament and I'm excited to see the Ko brothers play in person.
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Only one of the Turning Stone events last year was a MC point event. Matchroom fvcked this up -- no reason they couldn't have announced in November - at minimum - this was a point event. And limited field pool events, if they want to be a MC point event should have to hold a spot say up to 21 days prior for any of the top 10 point getters from the previous year.
 
watchez said:
Only one of the Turning Stone events last year was a MC point event. Matchroom fvcked this up -- no reason they couldn't have announced in November - at minimum - this was a point event. And limited field pool events, if they want to be a MC point event should have to hold a spot say up to 21 days prior for any of the top 10 point getters from the previous year.
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Wasn't there an event last year that was Mosconi cup points, then it wasn't because most of the players were gonna be in China somewhere playing instead of at that event? Was that the other turning stone?
Or something like that?
 
$200

watchez said:
Only one of the Turning Stone events last year was a MC point event. Matchroom fvcked this up -- no reason they couldn't have announced in November - at minimum - this was a point event. And limited field pool events, if they want to be a MC point event should have to hold a spot say up to 21 days prior for any of the top 10 point getters from the previous year.
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The entry fee in only $200. The players know this field fills up fast. They should have paid when they were there in August at the last Turning Stone. If they are on a waiting list it is their fault not Matchroom or the Tours. I think Shane and Corey chose not to play and Justin and Skylar just missed the boat.

Wedge
 
watchez said:
Only one of the Turning Stone events last year was a MC point event. Matchroom fvcked this up -- no reason they couldn't have announced in November - at minimum - this was a point event. And limited field pool events, if they want to be a MC point event should have to hold a spot say up to 21 days prior for any of the top 10 point getters from the previous year.
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Stop saying that Matchroom f*cked up and everything, it's like you are already looking for excuses in case some guys won't make in the team at the end of the year.

They announced it late doesn't mean the "inner circle" didn't know about it, they just don't make it publicly. I'm pretty sure those pros who cared enough to ask Matchroom about this would have the answer long time ago.
 
Wedge said:
The entry fee in only $200. The players know this field fills up fast. They should have paid when they were there in August at the last Turning Stone. If they are on a waiting list it is their fault not Matchroom or the Tours. I think Shane and Corey chose not to play and Justin and Skylar just missed the boat.

Wedge
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Mike makes it abundantly clear to all participants the the event has and always will fill. At any of his stops , including the January event, you can pay for the next Turning Stone Classic. It's 200 bucks. You want to play it's very clear to put up the money early. These are professional athletes correct? He won't hold a spot for his best friend. Mike is beyond reproach, no conspiracy here folks.
 
Wedge said:
The entry fee in only $200. The players know this field fills up fast. They should have paid when they were there in August at the last Turning Stone. If they are on a waiting list it is their fault not Matchroom or the Tours. I think Shane and Corey chose not to play and Justin and Skylar just missed the boat.

Wedge
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Justin and Skylar are shoe ins as captain pics Shane's a shoe in on points he will get in the other events so IMHO this about 2 spots not 5

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watchez said:
Only one of the Turning Stone events last year was a MC point event. Matchroom fvcked this up -- no reason they couldn't have announced in November - at minimum - this was a point event. And limited field pool events, if they want to be a MC point event should have to hold a spot say up to 21 days prior for any of the top 10 point getters from the previous year.
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Just to bring a little clarity to this situation, I went back into my email and found a press release/email from Mike Zuglan sent back during October 12.....




Oct 12, 2015, 8:21 AM

Players & Fans,

Congratulations to Stop # 3 winners Jeremy Sossei ($1,000-main event), Nick Brucato ($300-second chance event) & Kevin Ketz ($1,700 Joss Cue raffle winner)

The Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour will continue its 19th season with Stop # 4 on October 17 & 18 with a $2,000 added ($1,500/$500) event at Premium Billiards in Syracuse NY. Premium is another of the upscale rooms here in the northeast with Brunswick Gold Crowns that have been converted to "Super Crowns", 2 Gabriel heated billiard tables and 8, 7 foot Diamond Pro Am tables to complete their world class table line up. Premium also has beer & wine and a full short order grill menu so no one leaves hungry. Darts, bumper pool, foose ball, ping pong & video games are also available making Premium a true family place to be. Many thanks to all at Premium Billiards for allowing us the opportunity to come play and maybe even win some cash at their beautiful room. Why not show your appreciation by coming to play, watch, or take a shot a winning a gorgeous, custom, engraved, $1,700 Joss Cue in Premium's raffle. Anyone can participate & you do not have to be present to win! For more information about Premium Billiards please visit www.premium-billiards.com or call them directly at 315-488-4888.

Nearby motels include: Knights Inn 315-453-6330 and Holiday Inn 1-888-Holiday (465-4329) both in Liverpool NY or call Premium for more at 315-488-4888.

This event at Premium Billiards will consist of a $1500 added Saturday and Sunday Main Event (entry Fee $120 for pro level or $70 for non pro level) and a $500 added consolation event on Sunday ($20 Entry Fee) for those non pro level players eliminated from the main event on Saturday.

For those of you coming to play, please arrive on Saturday Oct. 17 Before Noon, and in proper dress please. Yes, jeans and sneakers are permitted in our billiard parlor events. But please, NO T-shirts, tanks, shorts or sweats. Complete tour info can be found on our site www.joss9balltour.com

Our $25,000 Added Turning Stone Classic XXV 9-Ball Open (January 7-10, 2016) is fast approaching and will fill to capacity before you know it. If you would like to compete in this BCA, WPA & Official Mosconi Team USA ranking event, NOW is the time to enter to avoid being shut out! To enter you must contact me at 518-356-7163 or see me at any of our events Before the event is full at 128. I have actively been collecting entries since our last Turning Stone event and we are currently 2/3 full so I strongly urge everyone to act now!!


Please remember to spread the word to frequent your local billiard parlors and utilize and promote the world class products of our most generous sponsors. They are the backbone of our sport and deserve our support!!

Thanks and I hope to see you all at Premium.

Mike Zuglan




Furthermore, here is a link that was posted on AZ's main page with the same info....

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12300-joss-tour-to-visit-premium-billiards-in-syracuse/

Like I stated before, this was always understood to be a Mosconi cup points event, even in the joss press releases.
If players were serious they would've left $200 from their winnings during the last turning stone to secure a spot for this one.

The only reason why some aren't there is because they chose not to be. Shane is going to China and so is Corey. And Mike Zuglan says, there are 128 spots open for August Turning Stone right now and he starts taking entry fees on Day 1 of this Turning Stone. AUGUST WILL FILL UP BY MAY. So get the fees in now.

Mark Wilson knew all of this months ago, as did the players, since they are on Mike Zuglan's email list.
No excuses.
 
How hard is it for Matchroom simply to announce this a couple of months ago? And how hard is it for players who want to be on the Mosconi team simply to enter a couple of months ago?

[edit - thanks Cardigan Kis, that's very revealing]
 
Cardigan Kid said:
Just to bring a little clarity to this situation, I went back into my email and found a press release/email from Mike Zuglan sent back during October 12.....




Oct 12, 2015, 8:21 AM

Players & Fans,

Congratulations to Stop # 3 winners Jeremy Sossei ($1,000-main event), Nick Brucato ($300-second chance event) & Kevin Ketz ($1,700 Joss Cue raffle winner)

The Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour will continue its 19th season with Stop # 4 on October 17 & 18 with a $2,000 added ($1,500/$500) event at Premium Billiards in Syracuse NY. Premium is another of the upscale rooms here in the northeast with Brunswick Gold Crowns that have been converted to "Super Crowns", 2 Gabriel heated billiard tables and 8, 7 foot Diamond Pro Am tables to complete their world class table line up. Premium also has beer & wine and a full short order grill menu so no one leaves hungry. Darts, bumper pool, foose ball, ping pong & video games are also available making Premium a true family place to be. Many thanks to all at Premium Billiards for allowing us the opportunity to come play and maybe even win some cash at their beautiful room. Why not show your appreciation by coming to play, watch, or take a shot a winning a gorgeous, custom, engraved, $1,700 Joss Cue in Premium's raffle. Anyone can participate & you do not have to be present to win! For more information about Premium Billiards please visit www.premium-billiards.com or call them directly at 315-488-4888.

Nearby motels include: Knights Inn 315-453-6330 and Holiday Inn 1-888-Holiday (465-4329) both in Liverpool NY or call Premium for more at 315-488-4888.

This event at Premium Billiards will consist of a $1500 added Saturday and Sunday Main Event (entry Fee $120 for pro level or $70 for non pro level) and a $500 added consolation event on Sunday ($20 Entry Fee) for those non pro level players eliminated from the main event on Saturday.

For those of you coming to play, please arrive on Saturday Oct. 17 Before Noon, and in proper dress please. Yes, jeans and sneakers are permitted in our billiard parlor events. But please, NO T-shirts, tanks, shorts or sweats. Complete tour info can be found on our site www.joss9balltour.com

Our $25,000 Added Turning Stone Classic XXV 9-Ball Open (January 7-10, 2016) is fast approaching and will fill to capacity before you know it. If you would like to compete in this BCA, WPA & Official Mosconi Team USA ranking event, NOW is the time to enter to avoid being shut out! To enter you must contact me at 518-356-7163 or see me at any of our events Before the event is full at 128. I have actively been collecting entries since our last Turning Stone event and we are currently 2/3 full so I strongly urge everyone to act now!!


Please remember to spread the word to frequent your local billiard parlors and utilize and promote the world class products of our most generous sponsors. They are the backbone of our sport and deserve our support!!

Thanks and I hope to see you all at Premium.

Mike Zuglan




Furthermore, here is a link that was posted on AZ's main page with the same info....

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12300-joss-tour-to-visit-premium-billiards-in-syracuse/

Like I stated before, this was always understood to be a Mosconi cup points event, even in the joss press releases.
If players were serious they would've left $200 from their winnings during the last turning stone to secure a spot for this one.

The only reason why some aren't there is because they chose not to be. Shane is going to China and so is Corey. And Mike Zuglan says, there are 128 spots open for August Turning Stone right now and he starts taking entry fees on Day 1 of this Turning Stone. AUGUST WILL FILL UP BY MAY. So get the fees in now.

Mark Wilson knew all of this months ago, as did the players, since they are on Mike Zuglan's email list.
No excuses.
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The truth is never as fun as fiction!

If Zuglan ran pool you'd wake up to pictures of pool players on your Wheaties boxes. The man is the best TD in the country.
 
BRussell said:
How hard is it for Matchroom simply to announce this a couple of months ago? And how hard is it for players who want to be on the Mosconi team simply to enter a couple of months ago?

[edit - thanks Cardigan Kis, that's very revealing]
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That's not all either.....

Check out the dates and these links....

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12215-joss-ne-9-ball-tour-releases-2016-schedule/ Posted front page Sept 10, 2015

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/sto...heads-to-tjs-classic-billiards-in-waterville/ Posted front page Sept 21, 2015

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12268-joss-tour-to-be-at-salt-city-billiards-oct-3-4/ Posted front page Sept 28, 2015

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/sto...bster-kick-off-new-joss-tour-season-with-win/ Front page Sept 28 2015

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12293-joss-tour-aiming-for-sharp-shooters/ Front page Oct 6 2015

http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12295-sossei-wysocki-notch-joss-tour-wins/ Front page Oct 6 2015


Etc. There are many more.
 
Yep

gxman said:
Players from Taiwan paid and entered the tournament, but 4 of the top 5 U.S players wants to wait til the last minute to enter and is on the waiting list. Seems like the U.S players needs to get their act together.
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I guess we will have to wait and see if any of the four share their reason for not participating be it schedule conflicts or just Not getting their entry fee paid on time.

Wedge
 
I believe I read on Shane's FB page that he is playing the Joy Masters Cup Chinese 8ball which is Jan 5th- 10th. I went back and looked but couldn't find it. Maybe someone else could confirm.

As far as a waiting list for turning stone, I don't believe one has ever been posted.
 
Random question,

Can someone who has paid their entry already sale or give their spot away to anyone they want, or do spots get vacated to people who are already on the list.

In other words, could someone already paid into the tournament give their spot to anyone that they choose?
 
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