Two things that improved my break 500%

CreeDo

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Your mileage may vary.

I've been snakebit on the break for a long time, and I hit them really hard... I often make the kind of break that makes people nearby say "jesus christ". But absolutely nothing falls, like 7/10 times I used to come up dry. (This is 8 ball break btw)

What fixed it for me was two things. One obvious one that maybe a lot of people are overlooking is: make your buddy give you a proper rack. Ask him to rerack if everything's not frozen, and fix it if it's a little tilted. You might feel like a bit of an ass for insisting when you've been playing together forever... but if he's a shooter he'll understand. Some tables just take more work than others, let him know you don't mind waiting if it takes a minute to make a particular table cooperate.

The more important one is to pick a particular spot on the cueball, and, once you have your aim, make sure you're looking the cueball last when you stroke. Trust that you're lined up and going to hit the first ball square, and just focus hard on where you're hitting. I aim for about a half tip below center and generally it either stops or draws. You'll know when you're getting lazy or jumping up when you see it follow into the rack.

When these two things happen, I make a particular ball in a particular pocket every time... I mean religiously... I'm making something on the break like 8 out of 10 or better, and almost every time it's the righthand ball in the 2nd row... it goes into the right side. Strangely I almost never send the left ball towards the left side, and I swear I'm aiming for a dead center hit on the one (and I'm teeing off from the head spot). I'm a lefty if it matters.

I think it goes in more reliably when the cue ball has a little backspin but I could be crazy. In any case if I hit the break with the same aim and it's got forward roll, that ball never even comes close. Sometimes it hardly moves. If my buddy racks a bit below the spot, it ends up hitting towards the bottom of the side pocket or hitting the nipple.

Just thought I'd share that long and fascinating story =)

Might as well make this a bit more useful by adding a question:
On our tables, regardless of how the balls are racked, the wing balls in 9 ball never seem to go anywhere near the pockets they're supposed to. They always hit above those pockets. Looking at the rack, the tangent line between the wing ball and the ball it kisses off of is way above the pocket. This seems to happen from all break positions. Is our spot in the wrong place or something? I've resigned myself to trying to sink the 1 ball in the side and praying I get something on the 2.
 
CreeDo said:
Might as well make this a bit more useful by adding a question:
On our tables, regardless of how the balls are racked, the wing balls in 9 ball never seem to go anywhere near the pockets they're supposed to. They always hit above those pockets. Looking at the rack, the tangent line between the wing ball and the ball it kisses off of is way above the pocket. This seems to happen from all break positions. Is our spot in the wrong place or something? I've resigned myself to trying to sink the 1 ball in the side and praying I get something on the 2.

Could there be something like big pits where the racked balls sit? Or are you racking the 9 ball on the spot? Either is a horrible corruption of a good table, IMHO of course.
 
pits definitely, one of the reasons it's prolly so consistent is cuz of the pits haha :)

Not racking with the 9 on the spot, that's communist. We don't play pro enough to worry about tampering with the rack to prevent multigame runs.
 
powderburner said:
Watch Cory Duel break, ought to tell most folks something.

That soft break? Only for 9 ball players. CreeDo's talking 8 ball.

When I break, the main thing I focus on is that my back arm is moving as fast as possible. Back when I was putting a lot of time into my break I figured out increasing the speed of the stroke without moving your entire body was a pretty easy way to get more bang without sacrificing much accuracy.
 
These are the things I try to do. Mind you, I am always trying to improve:

1. Hit the cueball center - There is no need to give it anything. You want it to stop dead.

2. Hit it hard - Unless you found a way to break soft that works

3. Look at the cueball last - Once you're lined-up, there's little more that can happen.

4. Follow-through - This is key, IMHO. A lot of people (including myself) will have the cueball jump off the table from time to time. I believe (though this is just from my personal experiences), when you follow-through, you get less hopping as the cueball approaches the rack.
 
CreeDo said:
Your mileage may vary.

I've been snakebit on the break for a long time, and I hit them really hard... I often make the kind of break that makes people nearby say "jesus christ". But absolutely nothing falls, like 7/10 times I used to come up dry. (This is 8 ball break btw)

What fixed it for me was two things. One obvious one that maybe a lot of people are overlooking is: make your buddy give you a proper rack. Ask him to rerack if everything's not frozen, and fix it if it's a little tilted. You might feel like a bit of an ass for insisting when you've been playing together forever... but if he's a shooter he'll understand. Some tables just take more work than others, let him know you don't mind waiting if it takes a minute to make a particular table cooperate.

The more important one is to pick a particular spot on the cueball, and, once you have your aim, make sure you're looking the cueball last when you stroke. Trust that you're lined up and going to hit the first ball square, and just focus hard on where you're hitting. I aim for about a half tip below center and generally it either stops or draws. You'll know when you're getting lazy or jumping up when you see it follow into the rack.

When these two things happen, I make a particular ball in a particular pocket every time... I mean religiously... I'm making something on the break like 8 out of 10 or better, and almost every time it's the righthand ball in the 2nd row... it goes into the right side. Strangely I almost never send the left ball towards the left side, and I swear I'm aiming for a dead center hit on the one (and I'm teeing off from the head spot). I'm a lefty if it matters.

I think it goes in more reliably when the cue ball has a little backspin but I could be crazy. In any case if I hit the break with the same aim and it's got forward roll, that ball never even comes close. Sometimes it hardly moves. If my buddy racks a bit below the spot, it ends up hitting towards the bottom of the side pocket or hitting the nipple.

Just thought I'd share that long and fascinating story =)

Might as well make this a bit more useful by adding a question:
On our tables, regardless of how the balls are racked, the wing balls in 9 ball never seem to go anywhere near the pockets they're supposed to. They always hit above those pockets. Looking at the rack, the tangent line between the wing ball and the ball it kisses off of is way above the pocket. This seems to happen from all break positions. Is our spot in the wrong place or something? I've resigned myself to trying to sink the 1 ball in the side and praying I get something on the 2.

the wing balls usually go a couple of inches above the corner pockets.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
3. Look at the cueball last - Once you're lined-up, there's little more that can happen.

That's what one of the Pros around here told me to do when I was having a lot of trouble with my break. I kept getting spin on the cue ball I didn't want. He told me to not just focus on the cue ball last, but have your eyes follow the cue ball as it shoots towards the rack. Also he told me to make sure my head follows straight at the rack and not to let it move to the side at all.

This guy has a monstrous break. He put a 4 pack on me the other night and not once were any balls tied up.
 
Damn CreeDo I've been having the same problem. Smack the hell out of the rack, make a lot of noise, but more often than not, not make any balls even when 60% of the rack comes racing towards the kitchen!

Next time I'm on the practice table I will try out your tips along with the tips from the other posters. I especially like the one about following the cue ball with your eyes all the way into the head ball.

Come to think of it, I think I'm getting "stiffed" (intentionally/un-intentionally) by the guy racking.

Besides making sure the rack is tight I also think it helps if the balls are clean too! I believe that also helps with regular shotmaking as well.

I love this board and website. It's little golden nuggets of information like these that really makes me want to check in day to day!

Thanks for sharing guys!

I really appreciate it!
 
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kano said:
Damn CreeDo I've been having the same problem. Smack the hell out of the rack, make a lot of noise, but more often than not, not make any balls even when 60% of the rack comes racing towards the kitchen!

Next time I'm on the practice table I will try out your tips along with the tips from the other posters. I especially like the one about following the cue ball with your eyes all the way into the head ball.

Come to think of it, I think I'm getting "stiffed" (intentionally/un-intentionally) by the guy racking.

Besides making sure the rack is tight I also think it helps if the balls are clean too! I believe that also helps with regular shotmaking as well.

I love this board and website. It's little golden nuggets of information like these that really makes me want to check in day to day!

Thanks for sharing guys!

I really appreciate it!
Yeah, I've noticed I make balls a lot more often when I rack my own too. "Dem's the breaks.":(
 
A tight rack is important to Me nows day, and My break isn't what I would prefer It to be, but I think breaking slugs has It's advantages. My break has varied over the years, but when a younger man, It was not uncommon for me to pocket near half the rack or more on the break in 9ball, If the 9 didn't fall first, and then have and easy run. 8 ball not quite as exciting but still making at least one of each was of a high percentage with a few 8 balls going too. I played on a lot of bar boxes back then, and so had a lot of people rack slugs. What I remember most is that I learned to attack from where ever worked, and I paid attention to how they racked them, the wing ball positioning also. I may would favor a different break in a different place with a different table. My biggest problem back then was keeping the cueball in the middle of the table afterwards. Now days I keep the cueball more in the middle of the table, But It's "all bust and no balls" they fly all the way into the kitchen and then some, but none of the angles line up. Each table is different, so when I work on angle attack I seem to do better then If I keep trying to make the same one work. After I find one I try to fine tune My english If using any, so I can keep the cueball in good position. Sometimes a simple blast straight down the middle with middle english is enough, and if that happens to be enough, then cueball position is a lot easier. I still have consistency issues though if the racks aren't tight, so whatever I use to do that made Me more consistent, I'm not doing now, haven't been for quite some time;) :D Greg
 
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My break increased dramatically over the course of one lesson learned..

Push ALL of your weight on your bridge hand... and make sure you aren't jumping up at all before you strike the cue ball.
 
yeah, the jump-up is a big problem... I feel like I gotta aim a bit below center to compensate for it. I used to be much worse, all my breaks had Super Monkey Topspin? and would crash through the remainder of the rack. I still didn't make a ball.

I can't seem to prevent the tip from going upward... I've tried. Even with a closed loop bridge the tip sometimes gets up. I can feel my legs spring upward as I go forward, and I feel like I need that leg (+hip) action to get a hard hit, and I dunno how to make my legs go forward without also going upward.

I'll keep hammering away at it though and see if I can get a center ball hit. Right now I'm ok with the occasional draw, I suspect it somehow contributes to the action that causes the 2nd ball to go in the side.

On the subject of making sure they're right... I couldn't believe this souquet vs. hybler match I saw (some euro championship?) where they racked 9-ball by hand. They had a racker with white gloves and everything. He did a helluva job too, nobody came up dry and the balls went where they oughtta, players seemed fine with it.
 
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