And SPARKPLUGS
I guess that applies to butt plugs as well, then....
Doug
( what about hair plugs )
Jude Rosenstock said:
I guess that applies to butt plugs as well, then....
Doug
( what about hair plugs )
U.S. AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP - rule - ear plugs.
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BPG24
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It's really sad that we have to have this discussion.... Alot of pool players have no respect for anything, especially other players...
You don't see that kind of behavior on a golf course... Well, a private golf course anyway...
All of the sharking that goes on in pool is the main reason I quit for so long...
I just hated being around those types of people
I guess alot of people didn't have good values at home, just seems weird that so many of them play pool
You don't see that kind of behavior on a golf course... Well, a private golf course anyway...
All of the sharking that goes on in pool is the main reason I quit for so long...
I just hated being around those types of people
I guess alot of people didn't have good values at home, just seems weird that so many of them play pool
Maybe a receiver could be implanted inside of the ear drum.
While I didn't quiz any of the other players, I noticed that when the establishment was making an announcement on the PA system, the volume was superb. It got my attention and distracted me from my shot on more than one occasion. With ear plugs I would have still heard the public announcement but it wouldn't have jolted me out of my shot.
I think the use of electronic devices should be avoided because of some of the factors that have already been brought up. Ear plugs do not have that same ability at least not the ones that I know of.
There are many things that should be controlled but are not and that includes competitors sharking their opponents. The use of ear plugs can be used as a tool to reduce noise and distractions, just as a jump cue can be used to obtain a good hit on an object ball that could not be hit otherwise. A glove gives a player an advantage over others especially on a humid day and that is allowed. The use of ear plugs does not preclude anyone from hearing what their opponents say or what the referee says or even the announcement that the tournament director is detailing.
JoeyA
catscradle said:
While I didn't quiz any of the other players, I noticed that when the establishment was making an announcement on the PA system, the volume was superb.
It got my attention and distracted me from my shot on more than one occasion. With ear plugs I would have still heard the public announcement but it wouldn't have jolted me out of my shot. I think the use of electronic devices should be avoided because of some of the factors that have already been brought up. Ear plugs do not have that same ability at least not the ones that I know of.
There are many things that should be controlled but are not and that includes competitors sharking their opponents. The use of ear plugs can be used as a tool to reduce noise and distractions, just as a jump cue can be used to obtain a good hit on an object ball that could not be hit otherwise. A glove gives a player an advantage over others especially on a humid day and that is allowed. The use of ear plugs does not preclude anyone from hearing what their opponents say or what the referee says or even the announcement that the tournament director is detailing.
JoeyA
Smorgass Bored said:I guess that applies to butt plugs as well, then....
Doug
( what about hair plugs )
I agree! I was playing a match with a certain player and down 1-0. I was in the process of running out the remainder of the rack and looking at the 7 ball which was very close to the 8 by the corner pocket. It was one of those situations where if the 8 even moved at all it would be an obvious foul. Even a spectator I didnt know made the same remark while the other player went off to get a referee. It was an obvious attempt to break my rhythm and shark me. Later in the 8 ball portion of the match, the player broke and made a solid but was preparing to shoot a stripe. I very easily could have let him shoot it and called a foul since I was down 5-1 at the time but being the gentleman I am, I stopped him and told him he needed to shoot solids. Anyone who knows me will not be surprised. It is supposed to be a gentlemans game and there is no place for antics besides I don't care to win that way...BPG24 said:
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I wear ear plugs for 2 reasons:
1) I hate loud music or loud noise
2) I don't want to hear idiots barking at each other or railbirds second guessing or commenting on what I am doing when I am playing in a tournament
I have NEVER had a problem hearing my opponent at all.
If I am about to push or tell my opponent he/she is on 2 fouls, etc - I make eye contact and wait for acknowledgment of what I said, and vice versa.
All you have to do is pay attention. If you can't do that and you miss a call for what ever reason, tough $hit, that's life.
I don't see what the problem is or why ear plugs are banned. Perhaps the idiots I am blocking out are starved of the attention that I'm not giving them.
Instead of banning the earplugs, ban the idiots that can't seem to stay quiet. Ban the loud and sometimes obscene music that is being blasted. That makes more sense.
1) I hate loud music or loud noise
2) I don't want to hear idiots barking at each other or railbirds second guessing or commenting on what I am doing when I am playing in a tournament
I have NEVER had a problem hearing my opponent at all.
If I am about to push or tell my opponent he/she is on 2 fouls, etc - I make eye contact and wait for acknowledgment of what I said, and vice versa.
All you have to do is pay attention. If you can't do that and you miss a call for what ever reason, tough $hit, that's life.
I don't see what the problem is or why ear plugs are banned. Perhaps the idiots I am blocking out are starved of the attention that I'm not giving them.
Instead of banning the earplugs, ban the idiots that can't seem to stay quiet. Ban the loud and sometimes obscene music that is being blasted. That makes more sense.
I try to find the loudest, Deffining rooms to play. I find it helps with little things, Like stupid people who like to pissoff other players. The devil is in the details. So the next time you call me fire crotch, Remember how much I have you down. If you can get use to people who try to hammer the nail that sticks out, You'll be flush!
juggler314 said:
GUBBINS......... (that sounds 'dirty' to me)
I guess that applies to butt plugs as well, then....
Doug
( what about hair plugs )
I was talking about the plug that goes into the butt end of your cue..... you know, that little rubber doohickey.
Doug
*Doohickey: Definition from dictionary ... dohickey, dojigger, doodad, doohickey, gimmick, hickey, gizmo, gismo, gubbins......
I guess that applies to butt plugs as well, then....
Doug
( what about hair plugs )
Jude Rosenstock said:
I was talking about the plug that goes into the butt end of your cue..... you know, that little rubber doohickey.
Doug
*Doohickey: Definition from dictionary ... dohickey, dojigger, doodad, doohickey, gimmick, hickey, gizmo, gismo, gubbins......
Black-Balled said:Punch yourself! That song rules!!
Seriously, you no likey? Does someone play it all the time where you go?
Look out, it might change into "46&2 and Shawn Armstrong are enemies"!!
Shawn Armstrong said:
Shawn Armstrong said:
just to clear this up.
Shawn's saying to tune out the idiots next to him, his 'tools' could be ear plugs or Tool's 46&2... not tune out Ear plugs or Tool's 46&2
it seems to me Shawn likes the song.
How does one tune out ear plugs anyhow?
I personally think that we should be able to wear ipods and/or ear plugs.
If they're worried about coachings, I can understand why... various models of mp3 players can pick up radio signals as well, with a small amplifier ($19.95 at circut city) a person could broadcast to the same FM station, and coach throughout the entire game with little to no issues, aside the morals.
I've played with and without an ipod blaring in my ears, I've never once had issues. I can always hear the rail birds, which also includes when my opponent wants me to hold up for a close shot. I usually say "this is going to be close, do you want to get someone?" before I take the shot anyway... but still.
Having the earbuds in my ears allows me to ignore the rail birds and shark attempts easier, because I don't feel I need to respond... I can play it off (easier) that I just simply didn't hear them.
If they're worried about coachings, I can understand why... various models of mp3 players can pick up radio signals as well, with a small amplifier ($19.95 at circut city) a person could broadcast to the same FM station, and coach throughout the entire game with little to no issues, aside the morals.
I've played with and without an ipod blaring in my ears, I've never once had issues. I can always hear the rail birds, which also includes when my opponent wants me to hold up for a close shot. I usually say "this is going to be close, do you want to get someone?" before I take the shot anyway... but still.
Having the earbuds in my ears allows me to ignore the rail birds and shark attempts easier, because I don't feel I need to respond... I can play it off (easier) that I just simply didn't hear them.
thyme3421 said:
ALL OF THE POSTS provide some unique insight into the subject. I hope others continue to post on this thread regardless of their opinion. Perhaps the people who make these decisions will find value in the consensus of opinions.
Thanks,
JoeyA
I agree
nothing in the ears, including cellphones, BUT, the TD should have total authority over the volume level of the jukebox while a tournament is being played.
Bartenders and waitresses that crank the volume up to satisfy some drunk while many players are playing a tournament should not happen, but often does. When it becomes so loud you can't hear yourself think, it becomes time to protest.
nothing in the ears, including cellphones, BUT, the TD should have total authority over the volume level of the jukebox while a tournament is being played.
Bartenders and waitresses that crank the volume up to satisfy some drunk while many players are playing a tournament should not happen, but often does. When it becomes so loud you can't hear yourself think, it becomes time to protest.
Inzombiac said:
Yeah, there was a fellow in a local handicapped 9 ball tournament recently who was zoning in during the warmup period, and he had oldies from the 50s rocking him gently. Wasn't missing anything. Only goes to 4 by the way.
Tournament starts, and he gets knocked out in the first round.
Masking pressure is no way to deal with it.
Gotta love the pressure to overcome it. He didn't.
Flex
Jude Rosenstock said:
Has there been any confirmed occurrences where this has actually happened? Who would ever cheat in pool using ear pieces for coaching or whatever?
Sandman, this is Viper Command. Duck on the 3-ball. I repeat, duck on the 3-ball!
Viper Command, this is Sandman. I think I can run out. Over.
Sandman, Viper Command. That's a negative. Repeat, negative on the run-out. Play safe.
Someone has got to show me how mp3 players can ACTUALLY be used for cheating. Personally, I think ear plugs should be allowed since refs and tourney directors never enforce sharking or bad behavior (i.e. Earl - I love the guy, but prime example). Until they act more like the PGA tour in how they enforce rules, players should be allowed to block out anything. Ear plugs never block 100% of what you can hear anyway. If the sitting player tells the guy/gal at the table to "wait" - the shooter would be able to hear that, even with earplugs. Otherwise, make sharking part of the game.... like NCAA basketball with the little "wavy" things during foul-shots. Each sitting player should have one of those, or one of those yellow foam fingers that the Hulkamaniacs used to use in the 80's. If you're not gonna stop it--- encourage it.
SpiderWebComm said:
Nobody on the planet would try such a thing, unless they are an idiot. Anyone paranoid about such a thing, is also an idiot. That's my take on it...
i don't think they should be allowed. how do we know you're listening to music? what if you listening to, say, an audio on pool which might help you stay focused? that would be just like coaching no?
it also can provide "background noise" and defuse big situations: let's say it's hill-hill and you have a tough shot on the 9 for a big tourney win - the room goes silent and that "silence" just makes it that much more of a pressure shot right?
it also can provide "background noise" and defuse big situations: let's say it's hill-hill and you have a tough shot on the 9 for a big tourney win - the room goes silent and that "silence" just makes it that much more of a pressure shot right?