U.S. Open Update

Dear Mr. Helfert,
While I only play in local tournaments-I think it's appauling to host a tournament and not pay your top 2 winners in full on the spot- I do believe Mr. Behrman had posted that he was going to bring a wheelbarrow with 75K out with armed guards and present it to the winners.
I know he worked very hard to secure good faith with everyone, only to stall payment to the winner.
Is this a case of "If you can't avoid it, embrace it?".
We've been eating shit for so long, what's a little more?
It's better than nothing.
That's the attitude that will continue to hinder us.
sad and sick we tolerate it.

I deleted my first response to you. You wouldn't have liked it I'm sure. Rather than complain about what someone else is doing, why don't YOU do something to help the pool players who have been "eating shit" for so long. Or maybe it's much easier to knock someone who is trying to do something positive for professional pool players. Try thirty five somethings and counting!

What have you done Mr. Chicago Player, besides find something to cripe about.
 
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Sorry Jay, but you should not take the worst case of all time as an example, and thats what the IPT was.
You should take all other sports as an example, like tennis or golf, you know.

And no, it is not acceptable that after somebody won a big tournament and big money to do that.
It is not acceptable to tell him he has to wait a month - WHY - because he is told afterwards.

THAT´s NOT ACCEPTABLE and no way to do biz or sports :eek:

Eric"h"


More bad news. Do you know that in many major sports, players are not paid immediately? Money is typically wired to their bank account anywhere from two weeks to a month later. Why don't you go after the PGA? I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.
 
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Thanks for trying to explain, Jay. I know you are not the promoter, so this responsibility does not fall on your shoulders.

That said, I do find it reprehensible that Barry would do this. His event should be the model for others to follow. The players deserver to be paid before leaving the event. I understand that keeping the cash on hand may be a liability, but there is no problem with giving them a check or certified money order. Even giving it to them the next day is acceptable. As I mentioned, all the entry fees are paid in advance, and all the gate money should be collected by this time, so there must be another reason. This type of skepticism should not be invited in by not making full payment on the spot.

And all of this is double-fold considering the press release issued before the event in regards to having the cash on site, armed guards, etc.. Why create all the hoopla if you can't follow through with certainty. The field was full this year, was it not? There were no storms, national emergencies, or any other reason to explain. I have not seen the press release since back when it was issued, but I remember parts of it.

And I agree, what Trudeau did was very bad, but comparing the US Open to the IPT in order to justify things is not really acceptable.

Again, sorry, I know you are just the messenger here. From what I have seen on these forums, you are held in high respect in the pool community. I'm just curious why you would passively accept a policy such as this by lending your name and experience to the event. Yes, it's all great the they will "eventually" get paid, but what's going to happen the one time when they finally don't?

It's a shame the world's greatest players have to deal with antics such as this, I hope more promoters don't follow this example and promise money they can't cover, but just make plans to pay it later on.

Thirty five years and counting! All money paid so far. Just a tad over three million dollars in total! I agree, Barry is bad guy and should be banned from pool so the players don't have to endure the U.S. Open anymore.

I think the real answer here is that 256 players showed up, including many of the world's best. The great majority of people (players and fans) appreciate what Barry Behrman does for pool. Yes, he has his eccentricities. Who doesn't? And he has money problems paying all the bills every year at the Open (there are a lot of unseen expenses), but who cares. But pay them he does and pay all remaining money to two players he will. And in a timely fashion as well.

Until you can do better I don't think you should be knocking a guy who has worked so hard for the game he loves. I think Barry deserves a big pat on the back, not more animosity. It's so much easier to be a knocker.

One other thing. I got condemned for going after Trudeau when he wasn't paying the players in a timely manner. Everyone was making excuses for him and saying what a prince of a fellow he was. I knew him for the thief he was and wasn't afraid to say so. Only a few of us spoke out against him and we were shouted down on here. I haven't forgotten that experience, but maybe you have. Barry is a far cry from a Kevin Trudeau and that's my point. I would suggest to all of you that instead of knocking a man who has committed large portions of his life to making professional pool better in this country, why not try supporting him and attending his event. You know, buy a ticket, buy the stream, visit the vendors. Yes all that!

You want professional pool to be better in America, then reach in your pocket and help out in some way. Every one of you guys knocking Barry, ask yourself what you have done for the betterment of the sport.
 
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Now I do not know how much you specifically have to do with setting up the tournament months prior to the Open, or if you act solely as the TD once all the entry's are received but I am sure you have the points of contact to make the following to happen.

I know this year there was talk about having a non pro event at another venue across the street or somewhere real close to where the Open was going on, but it fell through at the last minute from what I heard. Is there a chance of getting a sponsor and having an amature event scheduled for next year?

If there is a chance, there could even be two of them that could maybe held at Qmasters. There are plenty of tables to be able to do this without using the tables in the back room that the action takes place on. . One that starts at the beginning of the open and last four days with more money added, and the second one starting on the 4th day of the open and lasting till the day of the finals. The more money added to the first one because you would want to draw more players to maybe help out in the attendance to the convention center at the beginning of the Open. Play from 10am till 7pm so that the players could go watch the night matches at the convention center.

Also, by day two of either amature event, half the field will be eliminated and would more than likely be either hanging out at Qmasters or the convention center which is a win win situation.

Just wanted to put my two cents in.
 
Now I do not know how much you specifically have to do with setting up the tournament months prior to the Open, or if you act solely as the TD once all the entry's are received but I am sure you have the points of contact to make the following to happen.

I know this year there was talk about having a non pro event at another venue across the street or somewhere real close to where the Open was going on, but it fell through at the last minute from what I heard. Is there a chance of getting a sponsor and having an amature event scheduled for next year?

If there is a chance, there could even be two of them that could maybe held at Qmasters. There are plenty of tables to be able to do this without using the tables in the back room that the action takes place on. . One that starts at the beginning of the open and last four days with more money added, and the second one starting on the 4th day of the open and lasting till the day of the finals. The more money added to the first one because you would want to draw more players to maybe help out in the attendance to the convention center at the beginning of the Open. Play from 10am till 7pm so that the players could go watch the night matches at the convention center.

Also, by day two of either amature event, half the field will be eliminated and would more than likely be either hanging out at Qmasters or the convention center which is a win win situation.

Just wanted to put my two cents in.

There was a BCAPL event scheduled at the Marriott Hotel next door to the convention center. It was canceled six days prior to the start of the Open due to lack of entries. A post was made on here about that when it happened. Next year there will be an APA event at the same location. That is what I've been told.
 
Wishful thinking would be that they will open it up to any amature not just league members. Whats the odds on that happening, lol.

I didn't say this in my previous thread and I feel bad about it, but thank you for all that you do for the game.
 
Thirty five years and counting! All money paid so far. Just a tad over three million dollars in total! I agree, Barry is bad guy and should be banned from pool so the players don't have to endure the U.S. Open anymore.

I think the real answer here is that 256 players showed up, including many of the world's best. The great majority of people (players and fans) appreciate what Barry Behrman does for pool. Yes, he has his eccentricities. Who doesn't? And he has money problems paying all the bills every year at the Open (there are a lot of unseen expenses), but who cares. But pay them he does and pay all remaining money to two players he will. And in a timely fashion as well.

Until you can do better I don't think you should be knocking a guy who has worked so hard for the game he loves. I think Barry deserves a big pat on the back, not more animosity. It's so much easier to be a knocker.

One other thing. I got condemned for going after Trudeau when he wasn't paying the players in a timely manner. Everyone was making excuses for him and saying what a prince of a fellow he was. I knew him for the thief he was and wasn't afraid to say so. Only a few of us spoke out against him and we were shouted down on here. I haven't forgotten that experience, but maybe you have. Barry is a far cry from a Kevin Trudeau and that's my point. I would suggest to all of you that instead of knocking a man who has committed large portions of his life to making professional pool better in this country, why not try supporting him and attending his event. You know, buy a ticket, buy the stream, visit the vendors. Yes all that!

You want professional pool to be better in America, then reach in your pocket and help out in some way. Every one of you guys knocking Barry, ask yourself what you have done for the betterment of the sport.


Let me begin by stating that I agree with you about the IPT and Trudeau. I do not think comparing the two is even close, and I agree that Barry is way ahead of Trudeau, as a person and for what he has done for pool. I did not compare the two, you used that example and I don't think it was necessary.

Also, I have been to the US Open, I've bought tickets, I've shopped from vendors. I've been to QMasters before, during, and after. In fact, I have been to many events, including almost every major one, all over the country over the years. I've been to every amateur national championship more than once (APA, TAP, VNEA, BCAPL). I know a lot about how it all works and where support needs to be shown. I also know that what is promised should be what is delivered.

My point was that I don't see WHY this has to happen at the Open. My feeling is that this is the one event that can set an example for others to follow. The money should be there, in place and ready to be paid. Apparently I am not the only one who thinks this, as someone took the initiative to issue a press release quelling any anxieties about this because it is a known issue. So then, why did it happen again?

You mention unexpected expenses. Well how many can there be? The US Open has been going on for 35 years, from his room to the convention center, it should run like clockwork. There can't possibly be that many unexpected expenses. I understand about outside factors that may cause problems, such as the year of 9/11 and other times when weather caused problems, but none of that happened this year.

As I mentioned, perhaps the bar is being raised too high. People, players and fans, expect a lot of added money, and promoters are trying to accomodate. If Barry is having problems making sure the money is available, what is another less-experienced promoter going to do? What example does this set? Yes, I know Barry always has and most likely always will make sure everyone is paid, but what about these other promoters who (might) follow his lead? I think this could create more problems down the line. For example, Galveston. They promised the world, and tons of players showed up. And then everything changed last minute. I suppose I am afraid that more things like this could happen, and then things will only get worse for the players.

To be clear, I am not knocking Barry, I know he has done a lot for pool. But just because he has done a lot does not mean that his actions cannot be questioned, especially when he was the one that went out of his way to state what he was going to do, and then didn't do it. I wish he would have fulfilled the promises of his press release, I was pulling for him. But making loud promises and then changing things last minute does not look good, and I just don't exactly understand WHY things had to be changed last minute. From the outside, it looks as though this would have been an ideal situation to handle everything properly (ie, full field, good spectator turnout, no bad weather/national emergencies). If he can't pull it off under ideal circumstances, then how is a less experienced, up-n-coming promoter going to be able to do so? And furthermore, if the Open does not bring in the required money to pay out as promised, then are we as a whole expecting too much from promoters and "added money"? Maybe this problem is something the whole community needs to consider.

Again, this is not a personal attack on you in any way, or Barry. Just because I am questioning what happened does not mean I am questioning him as a person. The only way we can all grow and move forward is to question the underlying issues that cause the problems we all face.
 
Thirty five years and counting! All money paid so far. Just a tad over three million dollars in total! I agree, Barry is bad guy and should be banned from pool so the players don't have to endure the U.S. Open anymore.

I think the real answer here is that 256 players showed up, including many of the world's best. The great majority of people (players and fans) appreciate what Barry Behrman does for pool. Yes, he has his eccentricities. Who doesn't? And he has money problems paying all the bills every year at the Open (there are a lot of unseen expenses), but who cares. But pay them he does and pay all remaining money to two players he will. And in a timely fashion as well.

Until you can do better I don't think you should be knocking a guy who has worked so hard for the game he loves. I think Barry deserves a big pat on the back, not more animosity. It's so much easier to be a knocker.

One other thing. I got condemned for going after Trudeau when he wasn't paying the players in a timely manner. Everyone was making excuses for him and saying what a prince of a fellow he was. I knew him for the thief he was and wasn't afraid to say so. Only a few of us spoke out against him and we were shouted down on here. I haven't forgotten that experience, but maybe you have. Barry is a far cry from a Kevin Trudeau and that's my point. I would suggest to all of you that instead of knocking a man who has committed large portions of his life to making professional pool better in this country, why not try supporting him and attending his event. You know, buy a ticket, buy the stream, visit the vendors. Yes all that!

You want professional pool to be better in America, then reach in your pocket and help out in some way. Every one of you guys knocking Barry, ask yourself what you have done for the betterment of the sport.

Very well said, Jay! I agree 100%! I tried to give you greenies, but wasn't allowed to yet!
 
... the latest any match started this year was close to 1 AM, and that was on the night of the Hall Of Fame banquet. We have already addressed this issue for next year, moving the banquet up by one hour and ending it promptly at 7 PM.

... The latest any match ended was just before 3 AM, and that was only on that one night. ...

Jay, the last Accu-Stats match on Thursday night (Friday morning) started at 2:11 AM by my records. It was the Rodney Morris vs. Ralph Souquet match. I failed to note its completion time, but since it went 17 games, I know it didn't end before 3:00 AM. Nevertheless, I'm pleased to hear that you have already taken steps to prevent this from happening again.
 
John,

I like your style! You have good points, you get them across in a intelligent, well thought out manner, and when dealing with a sensitive topic, you ask the tough questions, but in a respectful manner.

Makes for good reading, and if I was a NFL coach that had just hired Randy Moss, and a couple of weeks later fired him, and had to stand up in front of a roomful of reporters and answer questions, I would want them all to be of your type:)


Let me begin by stating that I agree with you about the IPT and Trudeau. I do not think comparing the two is even close, and I agree that Barry is way ahead of Trudeau, as a person and for what he has done for pool. I did not compare the two, you used that example and I don't think it was necessary.

Also, I have been to the US Open, I've bought tickets, I've shopped from vendors. I've been to QMasters before, during, and after. In fact, I have been to many events, including almost every major one, all over the country over the years. I've been to every amateur national championship more than once (APA, TAP, VNEA, BCAPL). I know a lot about how it all works and where support needs to be shown. I also know that what is promised should be what is delivered.

My point was that I don't see WHY this has to happen at the Open. My feeling is that this is the one event that can set an example for others to follow. The money should be there, in place and ready to be paid. Apparently I am not the only one who thinks this, as someone took the initiative to issue a press release quelling any anxieties about this because it is a known issue. So then, why did it happen again?

You mention unexpected expenses. Well how many can there be? The US Open has been going on for 35 years, from his room to the convention center, it should run like clockwork. There can't possibly be that many unexpected expenses. I understand about outside factors that may cause problems, such as the year of 9/11 and other times when weather caused problems, but none of that happened this year.

As I mentioned, perhaps the bar is being raised too high. People, players and fans, expect a lot of added money, and promoters are trying to accomodate. If Barry is having problems making sure the money is available, what is another less-experienced promoter going to do? What example does this set? Yes, I know Barry always has and most likely always will make sure everyone is paid, but what about these other promoters who (might) follow his lead? I think this could create more problems down the line. For example, Galveston. They promised the world, and tons of players showed up. And then everything changed last minute. I suppose I am afraid that more things like this could happen, and then things will only get worse for the players.

To be clear, I am not knocking Barry, I know he has done a lot for pool. But just because he has done a lot does not mean that his actions cannot be questioned, especially when he was the one that went out of his way to state what he was going to do, and then didn't do it. I wish he would have fulfilled the promises of his press release, I was pulling for him. But making loud promises and then changing things last minute does not look good, and I just don't exactly understand WHY things had to be changed last minute. From the outside, it looks as though this would have been an ideal situation to handle everything properly (ie, full field, good spectator turnout, no bad weather/national emergencies). If he can't pull it off under ideal circumstances, then how is a less experienced, up-n-coming promoter going to be able to do so? And furthermore, if the Open does not bring in the required money to pay out as promised, then are we as a whole expecting too much from promoters and "added money"? Maybe this problem is something the whole community needs to consider.

Again, this is not a personal attack on you in any way, or Barry. Just because I am questioning what happened does not mean I am questioning him as a person. The only way we can all grow and move forward is to question the underlying issues that cause the problems we all face.
 
More bad news. Do you know that in many major sports, players are not paid immediately? Money is typically wired to their bank account anywhere from two weeks to a month later. Why don't you go after the PGA? I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

That´s not BAD NEWS for me, at least in my eyes, Jay.
Off course, you are right with the wire transfer thing you mentioned, but do you know the difference here, too. :confused:
I think you know it - these players in other sports are informed about that before they play at a tournament.:eek:

And thats a BIG DIFFERNECE, at least in my fvcking blind eyes, or not :confused:

If the players of the US OPEN were informed about the waiting of about a month before they suscribed, fine.
Then please take my appology for my dumb questions, BUT IF NOT................

Eric"h" ------ dont think they where informed :rolleyes:
 
As far as getting paid the purse money in a timely fashion...that's up to the players to say, not the fans. If the players are happy with the way it was paid off that is all that should matter. As far as the press release on the front page of AZ Billiards...it should never have been asked to be put on if you can't follow through with what you say. AZ is not a place to slip things in un noticed or try to be slick. There are a lot of very smart people on hear from all walks of life and they will call you on it. Johnnyt
 
Jay, the last Accu-Stats match on Thursday night (Friday morning) started at 2:11 AM by my records. It was the Rodney Morris vs. Ralph Souquet match. I failed to note its completion time, but since it went 17 games, I know it didn't end before 3:00 AM. Nevertheless, I'm pleased to hear that you have already taken steps to prevent this from happening again.

I was there from start to finish! It started just after 1 (maybe 1:11 AM) and ended at 2:59 AM. I was glad when it was over too, so I could get some much needed rest. My goal for next year is that no match starts after Midnite for any reason. That way I can get out of there by 2 AM. :wink:
 
Let me begin by stating that I agree with you about the IPT and Trudeau. I do not think comparing the two is even close, and I agree that Barry is way ahead of Trudeau, as a person and for what he has done for pool. I did not compare the two, you used that example and I don't think it was necessary.

Also, I have been to the US Open, I've bought tickets, I've shopped from vendors. I've been to QMasters before, during, and after. In fact, I have been to many events, including almost every major one, all over the country over the years. I've been to every amateur national championship more than once (APA, TAP, VNEA, BCAPL). I know a lot about how it all works and where support needs to be shown. I also know that what is promised should be what is delivered.

My point was that I don't see WHY this has to happen at the Open. My feeling is that this is the one event that can set an example for others to follow. The money should be there, in place and ready to be paid. Apparently I am not the only one who thinks this, as someone took the initiative to issue a press release quelling any anxieties about this because it is a known issue. So then, why did it happen again?

You mention unexpected expenses. Well how many can there be? The US Open has been going on for 35 years, from his room to the convention center, it should run like clockwork. There can't possibly be that many unexpected expenses. I understand about outside factors that may cause problems, such as the year of 9/11 and other times when weather caused problems, but none of that happened this year.

As I mentioned, perhaps the bar is being raised too high. People, players and fans, expect a lot of added money, and promoters are trying to accomodate. If Barry is having problems making sure the money is available, what is another less-experienced promoter going to do? What example does this set? Yes, I know Barry always has and most likely always will make sure everyone is paid, but what about these other promoters who (might) follow his lead? I think this could create more problems down the line. For example, Galveston. They promised the world, and tons of players showed up. And then everything changed last minute. I suppose I am afraid that more things like this could happen, and then things will only get worse for the players.

To be clear, I am not knocking Barry, I know he has done a lot for pool. But just because he has done a lot does not mean that his actions cannot be questioned, especially when he was the one that went out of his way to state what he was going to do, and then didn't do it. I wish he would have fulfilled the promises of his press release, I was pulling for him. But making loud promises and then changing things last minute does not look good, and I just don't exactly understand WHY things had to be changed last minute. From the outside, it looks as though this would have been an ideal situation to handle everything properly (ie, full field, good spectator turnout, no bad weather/national emergencies). If he can't pull it off under ideal circumstances, then how is a less experienced, up-n-coming promoter going to be able to do so? And furthermore, if the Open does not bring in the required money to pay out as promised, then are we as a whole expecting too much from promoters and "added money"? Maybe this problem is something the whole community needs to consider.

Again, this is not a personal attack on you in any way, or Barry. Just because I am questioning what happened does not mean I am questioning him as a person. The only way we can all grow and move forward is to question the underlying issues that cause the problems we all face.

Barry does set the bar high, very high, with the U.S. Open! It IS the premier professional pool tournament in America. But you've been there, so you already know that. I think all aspiring promoters should come to the Open to see how a well run event looks.

It is true that Barry has a checkered past as far as paying all the players promptly. He knows that too, and has strived to make that no longer an issue. This is something that I also stressed to him that had to be addressed if he wants all the top players in attendance.

That said, how the pay outs were handled this year is a big improvement over the last few years, especially where the top finishers are concerned. 94 out of 96 players who finished in the money were paid the next day. That's a good start imo. The final two received partial payment immediately as well, with a very short and constricted completion period. Both of them are quite happy with this outcome.

Personally I'm happy to see Barry heading in the right direction here. I think he has done a good job of finally putting this issue to rest.
 
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Nine Ball is "BROKEN"

One of the issues with Magic Rack is the removal of it from the table. I've seen many a pool player who's hands shake a lot. When removing the MBR with a ball(s) in close proximity, they don't need to be removing it.

At some very infrequent times when the MBR has remained on the table due to balls in or on the MBR, someone is going to want it removed for fear it will alter the natural physics of the shot. I'd think the ref would be called in at this point.

And, what happens when a player removes the MBR and accidentally moves a ball?

These instances will need to be discussed and all players actually pay attention to the instructions :rolleyes:. These are not insurmountable issues, but change often comes difficultly to stubborn ole players!

Does anyone know how these issues are handled in tournaments abroad?


I like tradition with our game and the rack and the sound it makes are an integral part of our game, this is a niche our sport alone brings to cultures all over the world. People associate the triangle/rack with our sport. You'll never get society to put these in every bar/honky tonk/pool room. Every different type of new style racking method to improve the situation for 9 ball eventually has had issues. Make it Ten Ball, call it the US Open and its a done deal. The PGA doesn't call it the Masters Golf Tournamet, they just call it the Masters, in our sport....players just call it the "Open".
 
That´s not BAD NEWS for me, at least in my eyes, Jay.
Off course, you are right with the wire transfer thing you mentioned, but do you know the difference here, too. :confused:
I think you know it - these players in other sports are informed about that before they play at a tournament.:eek:

And thats a BIG DIFFERNECE, at least in my fvcking blind eyes, or not :confused:

If the players of the US OPEN were informed about the waiting of about a month before they suscribed, fine.
Then please take my appology for my dumb questions, BUT IF NOT................

Eric"h" ------ dont think they where informed :rolleyes:

The only one uninformed here is you. Don't you think after 35 years the players knew what to expect? There has been a persistent problem with delayed payments at the Open for years and years, especially for the top players. Barry knew he had to do something about this and he did. The "big difference" this year is that 96 players went away happy with how they were paid. Apology accepted.
 
Jay, You are the man! It's great you have so much passion, desire and love for the game! Thanks for your help!

Thanks for the kind words. I do love the game of pool, "The greatest game man has ever created," said Minnesota Fats time and time again. And I agree with the fat man. He had such a way with words, for an illiterate kid from the streets of New York. He could even sway a judge in a small town courtroom in Southern Illinois or a much larger Superior courtroom in New York City.

I consider myself a grunt who still gets down in the trenches and works hard to bring this game to the masses whenever and however possible. I will continue to work just as hard to maintain a high degree of professionalism in the tournaments that I am involved in. That's my promise.

I do appreciate the helpful and constructive criticism offered on this thread, and it has been passed along to the right people for their examination as well.
 
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I do understand that Barry has done a great deal for pool.
But seriously.

Why is it always a game of catch up?

If Barry can spend the next few weeks pumping up and putting together the money, he can spend the next year doing exactly that same thing so that the money is there when the tournament is over.

Terrorist attacks, Hurricanes, personal problems, there have been several setbacks over the years, and the U.S. Open is still with us.

All that being said, If Barry can't deliver, then Barry needs to learn how to zip it so that he doesn't spew that garbage that comes out of his mouth, all over the place.
No one would be saying anything if Barry himself didn't come on here and let the verbal diarrhea fly.
Why?
Because it is tradition at the U.S. Open to have to wait and chase down your cash for who knows how long.

Sure Barry has paid out a lot of money to the pool world. SO WHAT!
That is not the issue at all.

The issue is, IS THE MANS WORD WORTH ANYTHING ANYMORE?

Sure the players will get their money eventually.
But don't expect everyone to believe what he has to say, when he eventually chimes in with a whole new list of apologies and promises, like he always does, cause everyone who is intelligent knows that it's a total bunch of BS till Barry shows them otherwise.

It's really simple actually.
Either deliver on what you say you will, or learn how to shut up if you can't.
After all these years, Barry has yet to learn this.
 
I do understand that Barry has done a great deal for pool.
But seriously.

Why is it always a game of catch up?

If Barry can spend the next few weeks pumping up and putting together the money, he can spend the next year doing exactly that same thing so that the money is there when the tournament is over.

Terrorist attacks, Hurricanes, personal problems, there have been several setbacks over the years, and the U.S. Open is still with us.

All that being said, If Barry can't deliver, then Barry needs to learn how to zip it so that he doesn't spew that garbage that comes out of his mouth, all over the place.
No one would be saying anything if Barry himself didn't come on here and let the verbal diarrhea fly.
Why?
Because it is tradition at the U.S. Open to have to wait and chase down your cash for who knows how long.

Sure Barry has paid out a lot of money to the pool world. SO WHAT!
That is not the issue at all.

The issue is, IS THE MANS WORD WORTH ANYTHING ANYMORE?

Sure the players will get their money eventually.
But don't expect everyone to believe what he has to say, when he eventually chimes in with a whole new list of apologies and promises, like he always does, cause everyone who is intelligent knows that it's a total bunch of BS till Barry shows them otherwise.

It's really simple actually.
Either deliver on what you say you will, or learn how to shut up if you can't.
After all these years, Barry has yet to learn this.

This is getting old, but thanks anyway for your input.
 
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