Reminds me of what pickleball is to tennis. I like don't like pool with gimmicks and flashy lights.
I think UP tournaments are fantastic, I have never been in person but seen them all streamed, eagerly awaiting the next one.How many of you have been to one of their events? I've been to two so far, and it was fun. What are your thoughts about the Ultimate Pool USA?
I like their pool league with the 30 second clock. Heck, I might even join one of their pool leagues if I can be home by eleven.............
So a shot clock is now a gimmick???Reminds me of what pickleball is to tennis. I like don't like pool with gimmicks and flashy lights.
THAT is what rules should do.I played at the stop in Denver.
Some of the rules are different, but imo lead to a very easy to play enjoyable experience.
Jim, I was at one of their events in Shreveport, LA and there were 128 players. I'm playing like a mad man, and the tournament director comes up to me and says, "Joey, you've made it to the final 32 players, and so you are in the money already!" I was kind of shocked, but I had some really close matches and was happy with my play. A little later, I learned that the final 32 was SINGLE ELIMINATION. My first match, yeah, you guessed it, was with Chris Melling. At least I made him come with it, and yes, he won the event, but I still went home with a smile.
I’d settle for anything that isn’t APA in Chicago. Nearest BCA league to me is over an hour away.I'm hoping they come to Chicagoland, but it does not seem like any major pool events want to come here. I'm pretty sure I know why.
Is this played on 7ft tables?
Why?
Only in America serious pool is played on 7ft. And then you wonder why Europe is kicking American ass at the Mosconi.
They should get you in the commentary boothHow many of you have been to one of their events? I've been to two so far, and it was fun. What are your thoughts about the Ultimate Pool USA?
I like their pool league with the 30 second clock. Heck, I might even join one of their pool leagues if I can be home by eleven.............
What exactly are you talking about? Other than the "6-ball shootout", there is nothing really different about it.Reminds me of what pickleball is to tennis. I like don't like pool with gimmicks and flashy lights.
I'm pretty sure they did!They should get you in the commentary booth
Except for the pool that this league/series is patterned after, they actually play on 6 foot tables in the UK.Is this played on 7ft tables?
Why?
Only in America serious pool is played on 7ft. And then you wonder why Europe is kicking American ass at the Mosconi.
That's the tour run by Oscar D. Might just contact him direct.Evidently their PR person is inactive. There's a FaceBook page, but it doesn't seem to have a schedule. The schedule is also not on the AZB calendar. The stops seem to have a standard format of nine ball, nine on the spot, $4000 added (less greens fees).
I see on YouTube that Stop #6 was played two weeks ago. Here's part of the stream.
I doubt five people in my local poolroom knows wtf the Mosconi Cup is. The average US player plays leagues and FR events and pretty much always on bar-tables. They don't give a rat's ass about big table pool or what any Euro country does. There are infinitely more events, some with BIG payouts, on barboxes than on 9's. Just the way it is.Is this played on 7ft tables?
Why?
Only in America serious pool is played on 7ft. And then you wonder why Europe is kicking American ass at the Mosconi.
Since the Lucasi West Coast Tour was discussed in the thread, I’ll mention something again pertaining to bar tables. I played in the Lucasi stop last year that was played on 7’ tables. Matchroom break rules and table markings used. Turned out to be a fun event and some skeptics about the location and tables were pleasantly surprised I think. Somehow the three top FargoRate players, Oscar, Vilmos, and Max Eberle finished 1-2-3 and were not beaten by lucky 432 FargoRate players. Now, I can’t argue that 7’ is objectively better. I get the benefits of the 9’. But increasingly every time someone brings up “toy tables” “ not real pool” “US sucks because of barboxes” etc… I get a knee jerk reaction to support bar box pool. The euros are welcome to come to some kind f those events you mention and show us how easy it is. Especially when they hit Bergman, Matlock. etc…. It is why no snooker player has ever lost in a pool tournament to an American. Oh, wait…I doubt five people in my local poolroom knows wtf the Mosconi Cup is. The average US player plays leagues and FR events and pretty much always on bar-tables. They don't give a rat's ass about big table pool or what any Euro country does. There are infinitely more events, some with BIG payouts, on barboxes than on 9's. Just the way it is.
You can not argue that 9ft is harder than 7ft.Since the Lucasi West Coast Tour was discussed in the thread, I’ll mention something again pertaining to bar tables. I played in the Lucasi stop last year that was played on 7’ tables. Matchroom break rules and table markings used. Turned out to be a fun event and some skeptics about the location and tables were pleasantly surprised I think. Somehow the three top FargoRate players, Oscar, Vilmos, and Max Eberle finished 1-2-3 and were not beaten by lucky 432 FargoRate players. Now, I can’t argue that 7’ is objectively better. I get the benefits of the 9’. But increasingly every time someone brings up “toy tables” “ not real pool” “US sucks because of barboxes” etc… I get a knee jerk reaction to support bar box pool. The euros are welcome to come to some kind f those events you mention and show us how easy it is. Especially when they hit Bergman, Matlock. etc…. It is why no snooker player has ever lost in a pool tournament to an American. Oh, wait….
Yes and no. As I have phrased it before, I think the problem is more the bar than the bar table. The problem is access. If you gave me a choice of having real access and real training to kids using only 7’ tables vs replacing every 7’ table in the US with a 9’, I would think the 7’ development program would result in more top players. I think the problem is multi faceted and the answer is more complicated than the difference in table size.You can not argue that 9ft is harder than 7ft.
It's not a matter of fun or no fun; I'm sure it's fun. I had a blast in the 90s playing APA in NYC bars on 7ft tables.
But I did practise on 9ft to become better and eventually moved to only 9ft tables.
If you want to create a strong pro field of players, you need to start nurturing kids and amateur players from the start, and working on the same equipment and conditions like the pro does is the only way to go.