Like the shaft being roughly 1/4 the weight of the butt or 20% of the total weight? How tight is the preferred ratio? I seem to like shafts that weigh between 3.5 and 4 oz I think?
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The ratio range I calculated to be ideal is between 18% minimum to 23% maximum. I prefer 21-22% for my shafts.Like the shaft being roughly 1/4 the weight of the butt or 20% of the total weight? How tight is the preferred ratio? I seem to like shafts that weigh between 3.5 and 4 oz I think?
So let's say on a 19oz cue, you prefer a 3.99 to 4.18oz on the shaft.
and the ideal range is 3.42 to 4.37oz shaft.
Interesting. Just from experience in weighing shafts it sounds reasonable.
I prefer between 3.6 to less than 4.0 I think.
Hell, I'm not even sure. But this math is pretty granular. I don't think I could tell the difference between 3.99 and 4.18.
Travis took a job at a technical college.
I saw that.
I usually like my cues around 14.8 to 15.0 oz (butt), 3.7 to 4.0 oz (shafts). Seems to generally land the overall balance where I like it.
Keep in mind that there is a sweet spot for most players and when you match a shaft with a butt, there are other things to consider, such as does the shaft have a receiver which adds weight to the base of the cue shaft. With my cues, I told my cue makers to build shaft 4 ozs or heavier since the butt’s were 14.5 ozs. The cues have flat faced joints so the shaft weight is just wood, ferrule and tip sans any receiver. Personally. I think 18% is on the low side but i have played with cues with a KW shaft that was on the lighter side for my taste but the darn cue nonetheless played fine. When the shaft is too light, I tend to push the cue ball more with my stroke because my stroke balance seems like it was a short stroke and not as deliberate.
I have a Cog / G-10 pin. I had Joe Gold build me a set of full 13mm shafts and they were both over 4oz. Felt like logs. I had to cut them down to 3.4 and 3.6. Maybe the G-10 pin has something to do with it.
I would agree. I don't really care for flat faced shafts much lighter than 3.7. Granted the construction/weight placement of the cue/shaft has a role. Both of my AVID shafts are around 3.75 to 3.8 oz.
My guess is that due to the initial weight of your shafts (over 4 oz), coupled with a g10 joint pin, the overall balance point of your cue was too far forward. For my taste, anything north of a 19.25" balance point is a no go.
LibraryFool77
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Dick Davis, WI.
I've got one and I love it.
As for makers, my vote is for Scott Gilmore. He's making me 2 customs and an ebony Hoppe conversion.
Love my Dayton.
The underappreciated makers are many.
Right time. Right place. Things like that can boost a name.
There are likely some greats that will go to their grave remaining fairly unknown.
When someone says my X is as good a Y (insert legendary maker), it is often met with skepticism anyway.
Personally, I think it's great to give a shout-out to makers.
Here on AZB we have makers. I always recommend to have a look at the forum where they post their cues, a subforum of the Cue and Case Gallery.
These are members of our community. Sometimes they are posting in the foums and members don't even realize they make cues. Some of them we have seen start from the first sneaky they cut down from a house cue.
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Rusty in Montana
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Once again I'll give a positive report for Mike Gulyassy two thumbs up , I'd like to acquire another of his cues but sadly that won't happen anytime soon so for now I'll be more than happy with what I've got now .
I'll second John Nemec
Cody At PK Custom Cues and Mr. Treadway.
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The big 4 point O.Like the shaft being roughly 1/4 the weight of the butt or 20% of the total weight? How tight is the preferred ratio? I seem to like shafts that weigh between 3.5 and 4 oz I think?
