Unknown Purpleheart Sneaky Pete I.D. maybe?

[SSDiver2112]

I understand this is a Sneaky Pete with no real stand out characteristics. If it cannot be identified I would love to here any feedback anyone may have on it based on the photos. Thanks.

Update: I did end up keeping this one in trade for services. I also decided to modify the butt to make it even more mine.

 

[PhilosopherKing]

Pin and ferrule look like Meucci.

 

[Sealegs50]

Pin and ferrule look like Meucci.

I agree. The bumper and butt screw are pretty similar to my 1991 Meucci sneaky. My butt screw is installed a bit deeper and the bore is narrower.

Another similarity to my Meucci is that the butt wood below the splice appears to be a veneer over MDF. There is no seam on the outside, so, it is like an MDF cored butt piece. Maybe it was cored to control weight and balance? Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.

Meuccis have long ferrules. Mine are just over 1.2”.

 

[garczar]

I agree. The bumper and butt screw are pretty similar to my 1991 Meucci sneaky. My butt screw is installed a bit deeper and the bore is narrower.

Another similarity to my Meucci is that the butt wood below the splice appears to be a veneer over MDF. There is no seam on the outside, so, it is like an MDF cored butt piece. Maybe it was cored to control weight and balance? Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.

Meuccis have long ferrules. Mine are just over 1.2”.

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Meuccis weren't veneer'd over mdf. I don't know any cue that uses mdf as a core. Maybe a cheap asian import.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

Looks like a solid player whatever it is

 

[garczar]

First sneaky i ever saw looked just like the OP's. It was a Meucci used by a top roadie on his way thru Tulsa. Must have been been about '81-'82ish.

 

[Sealegs50]

Meuccis weren't veneer'd over mdf. I don't know any cue that uses mdf as a core. Maybe a cheap asian import.

I bought it from the billiard store that Loree Jon’s father owned. They were Meucci dealers while she was one of their reps.

Mine is a solid player.

 

[David in FL]

It’s a Meucci.

Here‘s mine, circa 1984. Certainly not mdf…

 

[garczar]

Meucci.

Here‘s mine, circa 1984. Certainly not mdf…

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doesn't look cored to me. i saw some other pics of sealegs cue and it doesn't look cored either. i had a couple of the orig. Moochie sneakies and neither was cored. great playing cues. wish i'd kept one of them.

 

[David in FL]

I agree. The bumper and butt screw are pretty similar to my 1991 Meucci sneaky. My butt screw is installed a bit deeper and the bore is narrower.

Another similarity to my Meucci is that the butt wood below the splice appears to be a veneer over MDF. There is no seam on the outside, so, it is like an MDF cored butt piece. Maybe it was cored to control weight and balance? Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.

Meuccis have long ferrules. Mine are just over 1.2”.

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That‘s strange. I’ve never seen a Meucci core like that. The bumper is shorter too, but I don’t know that either means anything…

 

[David in FL]

doesn't look cored to me. i saw some other pics of sealegs cue and it doesn't look cored either.

Nope. You can see the grain running all the way through.

 

[ideologist]

I understand this is a Sneaky Pete with no real stand out characteristics. If it cannot be identified I would love to here any feedback anyone may have on it based on the photos. Thanks.

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I'd buy this as a Meucci. Please PM me a price

 

[ideologist]

I agree. The bumper and butt screw are pretty similar to my 1991 Meucci sneaky. My butt screw is installed a bit deeper and the bore is narrower.

Another similarity to my Meucci is that the butt wood below the splice appears to be a veneer over MDF. There is no seam on the outside, so, it is like an MDF cored butt piece. Maybe it was cored to control weight and balance? Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.

Meuccis have long ferrules. Mine are just over 1.2”.

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That's not cored or "over MDF"

I don't mean any disrespect, but you may want to get your eyes checked. The wood covered by the bumper exposed differently than the uncovered wood

 

[Sealegs50]

That's not cored or "over MDF"

I don't mean any disrespect, but you may want to get your eyes checked. The wood covered by the bumper exposed differently than the uncovered wood

I know. It looks strange because there is no obvious end grain except for the outer rim of the butt. It stands out that the outer edge looks different than the core.

My cataracted lenses were replaced last year. I need reading glasses, but I see fine.

That‘s strange. I’ve never seen a Meucci core like that. The bumper is shorter too, but I don’t know that either means anything…

Perhaps there were differences in construction over the years. Maybe Bob got his sneaky butts from different sources over the years.

I owned a 4P4V Meucci cue at the time and the shafts were interchangeable. Same diameters at the joint. I am pretty sure my ferrule is PVC. I could smell it when I was burnishing a tip.

Another difference in my sneaky over my expectation was that mine has a stiff taper, very similar to my Schick shafts. I asked Bob Meucci about it and he said they made tapers like mine as well as the longer tapers they are known for. He claimed that he invented that taper.

I’m just trying to be helpful. If Lorre Jon’s family ripped me off, it was with a really good cue for $110. Still straight and plays great.

 

[SSDiver2112]

I cleaned up the end and it is solid. What looked like a layer was just build-up and exposure.

I also have another. I am cleaning and re-tipping for someone. He may be selling. I’ll update later if so. I’m interested in the purpleheart myself.

 

[SSDiver2112]

I was wondering about the missing dot on the shaft.

Found this.

 

[Cue Alchemist]

I'll bet that purpleheart hits real nice.looking at the bumper it's from the very late 80s early 90s.

 

[David in FL]

I know. It looks strange because there is no obvious end grain except for the outer rim of the butt. It stands out that the outer edge looks different than the core.

My cataracted lenses were replaced last year. I need reading glasses, but I see fine.

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Perhaps there were differences in construction over the years. Maybe Bob got his sneaky butts from different sources over the years.

I owned a 4P4V Meucci cue at the time and the shafts were interchangeable. Same diameters at the joint. I am pretty sure my ferrule is PVC. I could smell it when I was burnishing a tip.

Another difference in my sneaky over my expectation was that mine has a stiff taper, very similar to my Schick shafts. I asked Bob Meucci about it and he said they made tapers like mine as well as the longer tapers they are known for. He claimed that he invented that taper.

I’m just trying to be helpful. If Lorre Jon’s family ripped me off, it was with a really good cue for $110. Still straight and plays great.

I’m not questioning yours at all. Just commented that it looks different.

They’re great cues. Mine has sat in a cheap case in the trunk of my car in Florida for over 20 years as a “just in case“ cue. Still pretty much dead straight. That’s almost scary!

 

[Sealegs50]

I was wondering about the missing dot on the shaft.

Found this.

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Thinking more about, mine was likely bought in 1993.

 

[Sealegs50]

I’m not questioning yours at all. Just commented that it looks different.

They’re great cues. Mine has sat in a cheap case in the trunk of my car in Florida for over 20 years as a “just in case“ cue. Still pretty much dead straight. That’s almost scary!

I used mine for playing in bars. I figure mine will be my last cue. I will sell off everything else before moving to the old folks home. I played with mine this afternoon.