*update* Pool with Hypnosis

gunzby

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I posted about this awhile back and decided to actually listen to it. I've turned it on a few times before bed and I can honestly tell you that I have no idea what was on that CD concerning pool. By the time anything was said about pool I was done so if anything it helps you sleep.

The other night I decided to finally find out what was on there. I listened to it without falling into hypnosis. One thing did strike me in there was when he spoke about breaking. Last week I practiced and posted up a perfect break on every rack. I pocketed one ball and had position on the center of the table on every rack.

If anything I can guess that it helped me out there and with sleeping. I also picked up another one of these, but haven't listened to it yet. Once I actually get to listen to this series I will post my honest opinion because I am still a skeptic.
 
I posted this (at the bottom) as a response to another thread and I will expand on the idea behind it and how it relates to hypnosis.

The brain consists of a conscience and a sub-conscience. We can not think about everything we do on the conscience level. We would and do shut down because of overload. Therefore, we must submit somethings to the sub-conscience.

This is were training comes into play. The more we do something, the more it is logged into our sub-conscience. On the physical level this might be referred to as muscle memory. Under times of duress, the mind, will fall back on the sub-conscience. This is our "programmed" instincts if you will.

I think hypnosis is a tool not an end all. I believe it goes hand in hand with steps 2 and 3.

I am not a sceptic. I definitely believe there is a true value to hypnosis.

I would suggest also learning more about Sigmund Freud's Id, ego, and super-ego.

Previously posted:
The military uses a set of 4 criteria to train their soldiers to perform under stressful circumstances. They are...

1. Goal Setting
2. Visualization
3. Self Talk
4. Arousal Control

I found it very similar and useful to achieving your potential in pool (or any other sport for that matter).

1. Goal Setting-Set you goals high.

"Reach for the stars, if you don't get one, you won't end up with a handful of mud either" - Leo Burnett (founder of one of the largest advertising agencies in the world)

2. Visualization-Sometimes known as "be the ball". Think through the shot. Feel the speed, the collision, the angles, the felt, the path in your head first. Think about the run out and the patterns and potential problems.

"Think with the end in mind" -7 Habits of Highly Effective People-Stephen F. Covey

3. Self Talk-Plain and simple Confidence. I think I can, I think I can.

I once told myself "If I can run a rack, I can beat anyone in the world." This may not be totally accurate, but I sure have gotten a lot of mileage out of it!

4. Arousal Control-One word, Composure. Never get too high or too low in a match. If you get down in a match go back to step 3!
 
There's a big difference between "conscience" and "conscious". You have your terms wrong. It's conscious and sub-conscious.
 
jason said:
I posted this (at the bottom) as a response to another thread and I will expand on the idea behind it and how it relates to hypnosis.

The brain consists of a conscience and a sub-conscience. We can not think about everything we do on the conscience level. We would and do shut down because of overload. Therefore, we must submit somethings to the sub-conscience.

This is were training comes into play. The more we do something, the more it is logged into our sub-conscience. On the physical level this might be referred to as muscle memory. Under times of duress, the mind, will fall back on the sub-conscience. This is our "programmed" instincts if you will.

I think hypnosis is a tool not an end all. I believe it goes hand in hand with steps 2 and 3.

I am not a sceptic. I definitely believe there is a true value to hypnosis.

I would suggest also learning more about Sigmund Freud's Id, ego, and super-ego.

Previously posted:
The military uses a set of 4 criteria to train their soldiers to perform under stressful circumstances. They are...

1. Goal Setting
2. Visualization
3. Self Talk
4. Arousal Control

I found it very similar and useful to achieving your potential in pool (or any other sport for that matter).

1. Goal Setting-Set you goals high.

"Reach for the stars, if you don't get one, you won't end up with a handful of mud either" - Leo Burnett (founder of one of the largest advertising agencies in the world)

2. Visualization-Sometimes known as "be the ball". Think through the shot. Feel the speed, the collision, the angles, the felt, the path in your head first. Think about the run out and the patterns and potential problems.

"Think with the end in mind" -7 Habits of Highly Effective People-Stephen F. Covey

3. Self Talk-Plain and simple Confidence. I think I can, I think I can.

I once told myself "If I can run a rack, I can beat anyone in the world." This may not be totally accurate, but I sure have gotten a lot of mileage out of it!

4. Arousal Control-One word, Composure. Never get too high or too low in a match. If you get down in a match go back to step 3!


I very much get the point about hypnosis being a tool. There is no way a beginner would listen to this and become a pro. Visualization and triggers are very important.

When I played serious softball I would take BP at night. I would hit 6-7 of 10 out of the park by a large margin and this was against a pitching machine that was less than one foot in front of me...which also moved with every pitch. With that visualization in my head I took the field in a live game. When I stood in the box it was no different. I felt like I was I in BP and no one was there (I didn't hear a sound and only keyed in on the ball....so nobody else was actually there). If someone was on base I hit a homer.....otherwise I made a base hit (4 HR rule). Up until the last 3 games of the whole season I batted 1.000 with a HR any time someone was on base.

*edit* I started frustrated trying to beat myself. I then progressed to beat the defense. Once I was satisfied I progressed to beat myself.....or what I knew I could be.
 
JimS said:
There's a big difference between "conscience" and "conscious". You have your terms wrong. It's conscious and sub-conscious.

Your signature should have a comma between shots and but. Figured that since you would stop in and be the grammar police that I could be a deputy.
 
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gunzby said:
I posted about this awhile back and decided to actually listen to it. I've turned it on a few times before bed and I can honestly tell you that I have no idea what was on that CD concerning pool. By the time anything was said about pool I was done so if anything it helps you sleep.

The other night I decided to finally find out what was on there. I listened to it without falling into hypnosis. One thing did strike me in there was when he spoke about breaking. Last week I practiced and posted up a perfect break on every rack. I pocketed one ball and had position on the center of the table on every rack.

If anything I can guess that it helped me out there and with sleeping. I also picked up another one of these, but haven't listened to it yet. Once I actually get to listen to this series I will post my honest opinion because I am still a skeptic.

I am a licensed psychotherapist and nationally certified in clinical hypnosis by the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis. A couple of my "shooting buddies" have asked me to help them with their mental game. Therefore, I am in the process of sketching out an outline and plan to record a CD. Depending upon the response, I may proceed with marketing it. I have worked successfully with other athletes, utilizing sports psychology techniques which emphasize mental imagery, visualization and arousal control. I'll keep the forum posted.
 
There's been several discussions of hypnosis and pool, lots of good stuff discussed. I think Joe W. posted an article he published on it. Very helpful and interesting. I've dabbled in self-hypnosis in the past and still use it on occasion. A topic search will turn up quite a bit.
:p
 
edd said:
I am a licensed psychotherapist and nationally certified in clinical hypnosis by the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis. A couple of my "shooting buddies" have asked me to help them with their mental game. Therefore, I am in the process of sketching out an outline and plan to record a CD. Depending upon the response, I may proceed with marketing it. I have worked successfully with other athletes, utilizing sports psychology techniques which emphasize mental imagery, visualization and arousal control. I'll keep the forum posted.

The "Deadstroke" and "Overcoming Contenderosis" hypnosis series were produced by professionals with credentials similar to yours, I believe. I surmise you are motivated to reproduce their work because you comprehend those works as being inferior to your anticipated work. Have you mentioned these other works to your "shooting buddies" or do you not endorse them even to that extent. I am wondering because I was contemplating acquiring those series, but no longer will since it appears a superior product will soon become available.
 
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Justice of the Peace

gunzby said:
Your signature should have a comma between shots and but. Figured that since you would stop in and be the grammar police that I could be a deputy.

As a justice of the peace, I also noticed that your sentences only had one space between them instead of two and that your last sentence could use a little work to. :D
JoeyA
 
edd said:
I am a licensed psychotherapist and nationally certified in clinical hypnosis by the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis. A couple of my "shooting buddies" have asked me to help them with their mental game. Therefore, I am in the process of sketching out an outline and plan to record a CD. Depending upon the response, I may proceed with marketing it. I have worked successfully with other athletes, utilizing sports psychology techniques which emphasize mental imagery, visualization and arousal control. I'll keep the forum posted.

Try it out on the CRAWFISH (from Raleigh). If it works on him, I'll give it a try. :wink:

JoeyA
 
shankster8 said:
The "Deadstroke" and "Overcoming Contenderosis" hypnosis series were produced by professionals with credentials similar to yours, I believe. I surmise you are motivated to reproduce their work because you comprehend those works as being inferior to your anticipated work. Have you mentioned these other works to your "shooting buddies" or do you not endorse them even to that extent. I am wondering because I was contemplating acquiring those series, but no longer will since it appears a superior product will soon become available.


I am not aware of those resources, so I certainly couldn't comment and make no claim that my finished product would be any better. I would, however, seek out endorsements prior to mass marketing and have received some inital interest from a touring professional. I would certainly encourage you to review as much material as you can.
 
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