US Open Racking
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I believe that the Accu-Stat template will be used the year if there is an Open this year. IMO it doesn't matter if rack your own on MR, so I believe it would be the same for the Accu-Stat one. Johnnyt
From the US Open web site:
•Break Box
•3 Balls past Side Pocket
•No soft Breaks ◦Velocity is key to determining a proper break. Players must break the balls with proper speed and it will not be a foul if three balls do not pass the headstring. Players must make an honest attempt to break the balls. A foul will not be called if a player breaks with velocity.
•Winner breaks, Rack your own
•2 ball behind 9 ball
•Break Box
•3 Balls past Side Pocket
•No soft Breaks ◦Velocity is key to determining a proper break. Players must break the balls with proper speed and it will not be a foul if three balls do not pass the headstring. Players must make an honest attempt to break the balls. A foul will not be called if a player breaks with velocity.
•Winner breaks, Rack your own
•2 ball behind 9 ball
Pattern racking solution:
Breaker racks the balls in any pattern he wants. Opponent has the option to require the breaker to exchange the position any two balls (except the one and nine or ten, of course) (and, in this case, the two-ball).
After the position exchange the breaker racks the balls tight and breaks. No touching the balls after you've lifted the triangle (does not apply when using a racking template).
This solution is based on the theory that you can destroy any pattern by exchanging the position of just two balls. Try it; you'll see that it works.
No software, no sheets with pre-determined racks, no nothing -- just five seconds to exchange the position of two balls.
Pattern racking would become a non-issue if the industry adopted this rule. There simply wouldn't be any advantage to attempt a patterned rack.
Breaker racks the balls in any pattern he wants. Opponent has the option to require the breaker to exchange the position any two balls (except the one and nine or ten, of course) (and, in this case, the two-ball).
After the position exchange the breaker racks the balls tight and breaks. No touching the balls after you've lifted the triangle (does not apply when using a racking template).
This solution is based on the theory that you can destroy any pattern by exchanging the position of just two balls. Try it; you'll see that it works.
No software, no sheets with pre-determined racks, no nothing -- just five seconds to exchange the position of two balls.
Pattern racking would become a non-issue if the industry adopted this rule. There simply wouldn't be any advantage to attempt a patterned rack.
The Accu-Rack Diamond 9 Ball will be used with the 9-Ball on the spot...
The break box will be 18"... 9" either side of center....
3 balls will be required past the side pockets with balls made counting towards the 3...
2 Ball at the back of the rack......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bumddH-zTOk
I think it's a great idea (moving the two balls, plus the rest of what you wrote). Let's see how many years it will tak for the first promoter and then how many more years the rest of the tournaments, TD's, and the top players take to adopt this. Nobody wants to admit that someone else has a good or better idea anymore. Johnnyt
That is such a horribly written rule with huge voids caused by the subjective interpretation the rule actually "requires" to enforce.
That is brutal, whoever wrote that has learned nothing from the last decade or two of problems 9-ball has had with regards to the break.
All other major international tourneys and all Matchroom events like MC Cup have ref rack so it is nonsense for a major like US Open not to have ref rack or neutral rack at least in final stages like last 8 or last 16.
If Barry can squeeze out $75K added money, he can reduce prizemoney by $5K or $10K to pay ref to rack
Having ref rack will stop racking controversy like last year
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=379001
Changing to ref rack will reduce incumbent's chances of retaining title so politically, it is not good move for Barry to change it. :grin-square:
If Barry can squeeze out $75K added money, he can reduce prizemoney by $5K or $10K to pay ref to rack
Having ref rack will stop racking controversy like last year
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=379001
Changing to ref rack will reduce incumbent's chances of retaining title so politically, it is not good move for Barry to change it. :grin-square:
The Accu-Rack is about as neutral as you are going to get... Either the balls are frozen or they are cocked... It takes less than 30 seconds to rack and your opponent can see if you cocked them... No 5-10k needs to come out of the added money....
I know some will hate and some will love it...
It is a significant change and I am very interested in how they figure out a way to make a ball consistently with the 9 on the spot and the 18" Break box.... If it works as well as it has the ability to you make see the same format in a few more events.......
Chris
I know some will hate and some will love it...
It is a significant change and I am very interested in how they figure out a way to make a ball consistently with the 9 on the spot and the 18" Break box.... If it works as well as it has the ability to you make see the same format in a few more events.......
Chris
Do you think there will be an issue with players soft breaking the 1 into the side anyway? I think they will and hope the tight rack gives them two balls past the side.
If they make an illegal break, is it BIH or just loss of turn?
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You can't soft break it in the side very easily you actually have to pinch it pretty good... The Accu-Rack doesn't add a lot of resistance so it's pretty much the weight of the rack to play the 1 off of... If there was no break box that would be enough weight but on the small box it's much harder...
Orcullo was trying that break in the finals last year tho so I am not saying the pros can't pull it off consistently and that that won't be one of a couple of breaks employed along with trying to kiss in the wing ball at the perfect speed and prasiing the lord and passing the ammunition as you blast the rack........
As far as illegal breaks they are usually treated as a scratch and the player just loses his turn not Ball in Hand.....
but but but but but ..how will shane have a chance to win if he cant rig the rack?
It doesn't stop the pattern racking though.
I also want to add that the Breaker has no right touching the rack other then shooting the cue ball at it. The fingering of the head ball or any other ball is wrong. Some of these rackjacks have their nose a couple inches above the rack inspecting away and i keep hoping someone slams their face in it. 
