US Open/Ranking Points

[Island Drive]

This event sets the bar.
Meaning no other event, just because of MONEY being LARGER should be able to give players more points for the win than the Open.

bm

 

[Bob Jewett]

This event sets the bar.
Meaning no other event, just because of MONEY being LARGER should be able to give players more points for the win than the Open.

bm

That's not the way that Matchroom's ranking system works. It is strictly according to the prize money won in ranking events. I think that's simple and fine. And I would argue that the World Championship, now that we seem to have a reasonable setup, should be the most important to ranking, which it now is.

I guess your comment is based on how the US Open used to rank in nine ball events. There are some who claim that we don't even have a US Open any more -- stuck in nostalgia.

 

[iusedtoberich]

How in the world do you figure the US Open is the biggest event?! The World Championship has trumped it every single year since being a WPA world championship.

 

[Island Drive]

Thx guys for the info.
I just felt top level annual events with 256 of the worlds best, should offer the same ranking points for 1st.... if 1st was $100,000 or $75,000.
I guess pro golf/tennis operate the same way.
So Roland Garros in the Red Clay awards different payouts than Wimbledon, but who's ever the top money winner End of Year is #1.
Masters Golf event, does it have the same ranking points as lets say, the British Open.
What I'm hearing.... it's All based on ca$H won, that determines who's number One?
Makes some sense.
But if a player won 2-3 the major events that year, but another player never did, yet finished near the top all the time, & that person won more $$$$?
He could be #1 without a majors win?

 

[Island Drive]

That's not the way that Matchroom's ranking system works. It is strictly according to the prize money won in ranking events. I think that's simple and fine. And I would argue that the World Championship, now that we seem to have a reasonable setup, should be the most important to ranking, which it now is.

I guess your comment is based on how the US Open used to rank in nine ball events. There are some who claim that we don't even have a US Open any more -- stuck in nostalgia.

Soooo, to be $more Important it will be based solely on payouts?

 

[sudocrushms]

I'd say having multiple "governing" bodies is the primary issue, which leads to inconsistencies all over the place. From prize money, exposure, rules, rankings, even to the players that are allowed to compete (as we've seen recently).
First thing they need to fix is to unify and make everything consistent. A players union along with that. Just like other major sports.
Would be similar to the PBA as long as they don't let these entertainment industry a-holes ruin pool like they have with bowling...

 

[iusedtoberich]

The WPA format awards points based on the tier of the event. This is probably the fair way of doing it, and has been the main way the past 20 years until MR took over.

The MR way goes by money only. What we have now is since the "Oil Money" 1MM of the World Championship, Fedor Gorst is 1000% uncatchable, probably even if Shane, for example, won every single other MR event on the calendar. (I may be exaggerating on that, I didn't do the math, but it's probably close). A very strong argument can be made that the MR method makes zero sense.

 

[Island Drive]

That was my feeling 250K to Gorst.
Since they of course had ''more money'' why tho do they have the right to award more player points?

 

[skogstokig]

That was my feeling 250K to Gorst.
Since they of course had ''more money'' why tho do they have the right to award more player points?

they don't award points. the money is the points. next year the US open will be 100k first prize, hopefully other events (and hopefully more promoters) will follow.

there's a debate in snooker about the moneyboard rankings being too crude and skewed by the chinese and saudi promoters, and some want a tier based ranking instead. but promoters and event sponsors trumping each other with big prize money is a good thing, and the current ranking system lends itself to that. legacy is great but you can't eat it

 

[Island Drive]

Thx Skog....