USA wins Mosconi Cup
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Tristan said:
Yeah. Being the pedantic player as he is, he is going to kick himself a long time for this
Would be interesting to see how the racks went when he lost 4 straight racks to Davis, was it because of nerves or just Davis playing well and table turning sour to Mika.
Lost four straight with alternating break. That is truly brutal.
Mike
Mike
mjantti said:Yeah. Being the pedantic player as he is, he is going to kick himself a long time for this
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Check your dictionary but I do believe the words "retain" and "win" have two different definitions. Before you say I am playing favorites here I would like to say I am not European despite my username I am in fact American.
If they aren't willing to have a tiebreaker why don't they use statistical criteria to decide a winner? Break and runs, nine ball breaks, potting percentage etc. would be a fair way to decide in my opinion. I have no idea if these stats were gone through who would have come out on top but as i wasn't able to view the games (despite living in Europe no place I knew seemed to have Sky 3 although they had the other Sky channels). So if they did use these statistics maybe I would have some sort of clue of which team actually over all played better.
Maybe somebody here has too much time on their hands and could break it down because I am simply too lazy. It would be something to do other than argue about what tips play the best or break cue weight I guess.
The good news is that the snooker tourney currently going on quite possibly when it reaches its conclusion will have a winner.
Ryan
If they aren't willing to have a tiebreaker why don't they use statistical criteria to decide a winner? Break and runs, nine ball breaks, potting percentage etc. would be a fair way to decide in my opinion. I have no idea if these stats were gone through who would have come out on top but as i wasn't able to view the games (despite living in Europe no place I knew seemed to have Sky 3 although they had the other Sky channels). So if they did use these statistics maybe I would have some sort of clue of which team actually over all played better.
Maybe somebody here has too much time on their hands and could break it down because I am simply too lazy. It would be something to do other than argue about what tips play the best or break cue weight I guess.
The good news is that the snooker tourney currently going on quite possibly when it reaches its conclusion will have a winner.
Ryan
This is nitpicking. Yes, the Mosconi Cup was a draw. Still, the USA rallied impressively and as the rules say that in the case of a draw the Mosconi Cup does not change hands, the USA players must feel like winners.
Congratulations to both teams for staging such an exciting event, and we're already looking forward to the next Mosconi Cup.
Congratulations to both teams for staging such an exciting event, and we're already looking forward to the next Mosconi Cup.
I can't believe the tournament organizers would allow a format that allows for a tie, with this format there is zero chance of a hill-hill match for the title
But you have to give credit to the Americans for never giving up, despite some disapointing performances from the rookies Davis and Schmidt they still found a way to comeback. I feel sorry for Mika Immonen, it sounds like he had the match all but finished when he missed a simple shot into the side pocket, I guess pressure and nerves get's even the best of them sometimes. Although it finished in a tie score this has been one of the better Mosconi's in recent years.
But you have to give credit to the Americans for never giving up, despite some disapointing performances from the rookies Davis and Schmidt they still found a way to comeback. I feel sorry for Mika Immonen, it sounds like he had the match all but finished when he missed a simple shot into the side pocket, I guess pressure and nerves get's even the best of them sometimes. Although it finished in a tie score this has been one of the better Mosconi's in recent years.
Pugh said:I agree and the tie-breaker should be most broken cues, and therefore USA wins again.
Now THAT was funny...thanks for making me LOL!
mjantti said:Yeah. Being the pedantic player as he is, he is going to kick himself a long time for this
i never thought of mika as pedantic. he's a most natural and imo, a very Unpedantic player. ginky for instance, i think is just the opposite.
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Well yeah considering the way things were going Team USA must be delighted they didn't lose. Sometimes I feel like I am winner and also get irritated when people inform me that in fact I am not. That doesn't make them nitpickers. LOL
I would imagine that the stronger players on both teams would come out feeling like winners and the ones that didn't compete that well might not share the same feelings. I am not sure you can say that 6 individuals would feel the same way about it just because they are on the same team.
I feel that the way that certain posters have used the term win is not because they sincerely believe it was a win in any sense but just to bait others into a stupid argument.
I am beginning to sort of wonder if it wasn't all fixed for this scenario to happen in the first place.The proud people on the USA side can say they won and the Europeans can feel happy they didn't lose again. I guess it is sort of a win-win situation in that respect. The clear loser would have to be anybody that put any amount of money to travel any sort of distance to see such a futile endeavor.
I guess at least it wasn't as predictable as it has been in previous years. It was like having sex without achieving an orgasm is the only way I can sum the event up.
Ryan
I would imagine that the stronger players on both teams would come out feeling like winners and the ones that didn't compete that well might not share the same feelings. I am not sure you can say that 6 individuals would feel the same way about it just because they are on the same team.
I feel that the way that certain posters have used the term win is not because they sincerely believe it was a win in any sense but just to bait others into a stupid argument.
I am beginning to sort of wonder if it wasn't all fixed for this scenario to happen in the first place.The proud people on the USA side can say they won and the Europeans can feel happy they didn't lose again. I guess it is sort of a win-win situation in that respect. The clear loser would have to be anybody that put any amount of money to travel any sort of distance to see such a futile endeavor.
I guess at least it wasn't as predictable as it has been in previous years. It was like having sex without achieving an orgasm is the only way I can sum the event up.
Ryan
Does that make the V-Bookie event a wash, or does everyone win?sjm said:
Tracy
RSB-Refugee said:Does that make the V-Bookie event a wash, or does everyone win?
Tracy
My question exactly! I bet it'll be declared a wash, though.
Either a wash, or pay everyone. Either way would be cool, but I think it would be unfair for anyone to lose anything.VIProfessor said:
Tracy
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The bet is a wash. Let's try this one more time.... there will be no payment as there was no winner. LOL
Ryan
Ryan
Its great that the usa stayed in it and not just gave up.