USA wins Mosconi Cup

[VIProfessor]

Yeah. Being the pedantic player as he is, he is going to kick himself a long time for this Would be interesting to see how the racks went when he lost 4 straight racks to Davis, was it because of nerves or just Davis playing well and table turning sour to Mika.

From what I was reading on the Mosconi Cup website, it seems that Mika dogged a makeable shot on the 9 in the side at hill-hill! Can anyone that witnessed the match shed some light on this?

 

[mjantti]

i never thought of mika as pedantic. he's a most natural and imo, a very Unpedantic player. ginky for instance, i think is just the opposite.

Ah well, pedantic in many aspects with his game (in good sense of the word), his concentration, self-observation, fitness etc. but not necessarily the very style of his game is pedantic. He doesn't necessarily try to play perfect game, position etc. but more with the feeling and emotions, but he expects to get a perfect result. I guess I was referring to that as "pedantic", but only in positive way (if you can use it in positive way here).

 

[Pinocchio]

Usa!usa!

Good play in hostile environment an thats a good thing if we could get that out of the Ryder Cup that would be great.
Pinocchio

 

[Bamacues]

Check your dictionary but I do believe the words "retain" and "win" have two different definitions. Before you say I am playing favorites here I would like to say I am not European despite my username I am in fact American.
Ryan

As in many sports, the reigning champion must be defeated by the opposition in order to secure a victory. A draw is, in fact, a win for the champion as the opposition failed to secure a victory. Having said that, so many other pro pool events go to a sudden-death play off rack. Wouldn't it have been great to see the two teams each pony up their "best" player, the two lag for break, and a race to 1 game for the cup...you talk about drama and nerves!!!

 

[Donovan]

How even were these teams? This was so cool! COGRATS to everyone!

 

[RottenRodney]

Well yeah considering the way things were going Team USA must be delighted they didn't lose. Sometimes I feel like I am winner and also get irritated when people inform me that in fact I am not. That doesn't make them nitpickers. LOL

I would imagine that the stronger players on both teams would come out feeling like winners and the ones that didn't compete that well might not share the same feelings. I am not sure you can say that 6 individuals would feel the same way about it just because they are on the same team.

I feel that the way that certain posters have used the term win is not because they sincerely believe it was a win in any sense but just to bait others into a stupid argument.

I am beginning to sort of wonder if it wasn't all fixed for this scenario to happen in the first place.The proud people on the USA side can say they won and the Europeans can feel happy they didn't lose again. I guess it is sort of a win-win situation in that respect. The clear loser would have to be anybody that put any amount of money to travel any sort of distance to see such a futile endeavor.

I guess at least it wasn't as predictable as it has been in previous years. It was like having sex without achieving an orgasm is the only way I can sum the event up.


Do you really know what it feels like to have sex without orgasm??

 

[Stones]

How about a javelin throw to break the tie. My money's on Earl!

 

[stick8]

mosconi cup

looks like the europen team lost it more than u.s. won it !! but we will take it, just like to see u.s. win it out right. my best to all

 

[ukpooladdict]

From what I was reading on the Mosconi Cup website, it seems that Mika dogged a makeable shot on the 9 in the side at hill-hill! Can anyone that witnessed the match shed some light on this?

I watched the last match's and Mika didn't miss an easy 9....he got a little outta shape for the 8 and they were quite close to each other around where the rack goes...he should of played the 8 and knocked the nine close to the opposite pocket with a little top to run thru..but he looked a little nervous and played it with stun...the nine and the white landed in a line a about a foot off the left corner pocket so he only had a long bank to opposite corner pocket he tried it, played a little fast and choked...Davies then had 8ft nine just off the rail about a foot from pocket missed badly but left kinda safe..Mika tried to cross bank but double kissed and left it hanging over pocket..he should of played safe...
Also Alcaide had good chance to go 3-2 on Corey up and missed and easy ball too..in that game there was a 10 minute safety battle both rushing as used extensions and Deual got a little lucky hitting 3 full ball hooks and getting a little lucky with where balls landed in non pottable positions

But what a Mosconi cup it was brilliant i just feel sorry for the Americans who couldn't enjoy it live.

The Amercans did really well to hang in there but even Archer admitted Europe out played the Americans during week.

 

[Donovan]

I watched the last match's and Mika didn't miss an easy 9....he got a little outta shape for the 8 and they were quite close to each other around where the rack goes...he should of played the 8 and knocked the nine close to the opposite pocket with a little top to run thru..but he looked a little nervous and played it with stun...the nine and the white landed in a line a about a foot off the left corner pocket so he only had a long bank to opposite corner pocket he tried it, played a little fast and choked...Davies then had 8ft nine just off the rail about a foot from pocket missed badly but left kinda safe..Mika tried to cross bank but double kissed and left it hanging over pocket..he should of played safe...
Also Alcaide had good chance to go 3-2 on Corey up and missed and easy ball too..in that game there was a 10 minute safety battle both rushing as used extensions and Deual got a little lucky hitting 3 full ball hooks and getting a little lucky with where balls landed in non pottable positions

But what a Mosconi cup it was brilliant i just feel sorry for the Americans who couldn't enjoy it live.

The Amercans did really well to hang in there but even Archer admitted Europe out played the Americans during week.

That was a great report! Thank you so much for taking the time to write it up.

 

[Kyo]

I must say it was probably the best mosconi cup that i had the pleasure of watching for a very long time. There was drama, tension and the players on both side really dug deep to make it a draw.

The pressure the players were under was immense and could be felt as no doubt everyone watching was feeling the tension of every shot and every rack. Some breif moments of individuals acting or saying something daft but overall it was thoroughly enteraining. Despite the draw it was really worth watching as some top draw pool was played last night.

Kudos to Mike Davis and espeically Corey Deuel for really showing the rest of the world how much grit and determination they had, as they really did do the ir country proud, particularly when USA had their backs against the wall, virtually all the way.

Earl was ......erm ...Earl, he really needs some help because at this rate he going to self destruct...no joke.

The only real wish at times that some of the american players (not naming who but most would know) would behave as gracious in defeat as they do in victory.

For the record It was a draw nevertheless so this threads isn't exactly accurate as they retain by default not in victory.

 

[CaptainHook]

The last few years they have shown some of it on a local sports network.
I hope they show some of the matches this year as well.

 

[john_phillips23]

none of which changes the fact that it is a dumb format

Dale

Absolutely agree. I feel cheated that I watched so many hours of coverage on Sky, only for it to end as such a total anti-climax. Even if my team (Europe) lost, I'd rather that than this non-event. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would want to leave the event as a tie, rather than going to a deciding match.

What next, if the 2007 WPC final goes 16-16, do we just say "It's a tie - there's no world champion this year"?

 

[Williebetmore]

My question exactly! I bet it'll be declared a wash, though.

Prof,
I think you guys are missing the point (golf fans are more familiar with this).

By the rules of the event, the Europeans do not get the Cup; therefore they lose. They must win it back (a tie is a loss for them). Once they get possession of the Cup, then the Americans must have a clear victory to get it back.

The team possessing the Cup has the advantage in the rules. America "won" (retains the Cup), Europe "lost" (failed to take the Cup). No one could reasonably state that this was a "tie"; by the rules of the event America retains the Cup (isn't that after all the point of an annual competition of this sort?).

 

[Snapshot9]

I don't care

if the Ryder Cup does it that way. The event should have played the final an deciding match for the Mosconi Cup .... period. The way it is now, that's like 2 players going hill-to-hill and saying Tom wins that set because he won the previous set. It goes against the grain for the general rules and procedures of Pool.

As far as Earl - Yes, he is indeed a colorful character, but just let him be.
I thought Golf was much more interesting when it had a Lee Trevino or Chi Chi Rodriquez playing the sport. Now, we have Tiger, and all the rest are just a well behaved mundane crowd following him.

 

[john_phillips23]

I'm not a gambler, but before the event, it was announced what would happen if it went 12-12. Therefore, people were free to bet on that happenning, and thus anyone who bet on anything else would lose their money.

That said, I'm still baffled why the organisers would take a step that actively REMOVED the potential for an exciting finale, just to ape the format of the Ryder Cup.