Snooker is too impractical an application of pool; not to mention changing horses just to confront the British mob for admission. You'd need a spare life, another tea party and revolution besides that funny stick.
The best US snooker player would go flat busted if he went to the UK to play. There are players that just play club level snooker over there that would torture US players. Above that are the mini-tour type events and those guys are just a notch below the big boys.Mentioning snooker..... I'm still disappointed no pool player has successfully crossed over into Snooker. Corey Deuel won the 2013 US Snooker Championships, but then failed two or three times to actually qualify for the Snooker Professional tour. Corey's near the top as a 9-ball player, and i had really hoped he'd make it on the tour.
I don't know what "opening up an angle on a shot" means, that's definitely the first time I've heard an expression like that. Do you think you can cut a normal shot better with outside English to inside English?I wasn't talking about swerving the CB. I meant opening up an angle on a shot that can't be hit normally by hitting throwing the OB with CB outside spin. This cannot be done with inside.
Yes, snooker is as different from pocketbilliards as ping pong is to tennis. I respect the talent levels in both games, but the cloth, balls, pockets, table size, cues, tips, rules, strategy, and overall mind set is different. It's easier to go from snooker to pool, but still takes some getting used to. If the game was just 6 Ball on a snooker table players like Alex, Shane, and Dennis Orcollo would have a good chance, but not playing snooker.The best US snooker player would go flat busted if he went to the UK to play. There are players that just play club level snooker over there that would torture US players. Above that are the mini-tour type events and those guys are just a notch below the big boys.
Interesting... Wasn't a good portion of this thread focused around the use of only a few cut angles and then adjusting the shot with CB spin induced throw...? Are you saying you've never increased the cut angle (opening up the angle) of an object ball with the "throw" effect of CB outside spin..? I would find this extremely difficult to believe coming from former championship caliber player. I'm sure it must just be a matter of differing terminology between us. The technique is no different than shortening a cut angle with inside spin.I don't know what "opening up an angle on a shot" means, that's definitely the first time I've heard an expression like that. Do you think you can cut a normal shot better with outside English to inside English?
I think you're in the wrong thread.No lessons, decoder rings, private chats, and/or dvds for a low low price.
The Touch of Inside increases every cut angle....in the English language "Increase" and "Open" don't have the same meaning. And, yes, cuing the ball to the inside does increase my ability to make cut shots because I'm simply aiming my tip at the edge of the object ball.Interesting... Wasn't a good portion of this thread focused around the use of only a few cut angles and then adjusting the shot with CB spin induced throw...? Are you saying you've never increased the cut angle (opening up the angle) of an object ball with the "throw" effect of CB outside spin..? I would find this extremely difficult to believe coming from former championship caliber player. I'm sure it must just be a matter of differing terminology between us. The technique is no different than shortening a cut angle with inside spin.
I don't think I can cut a ball "better" with outside english. However I can create a cut angle with only CB spin. Just like every other person that spins a CB into an OB. No lessons, decoder rings, private chats, and/or dvds for a low low price. Simple shoot the CB directly at the OB with nothing but either side spin and watch the magic happen. Usually in game play this is used to produce a cut angle that isn't possible with a normal direct hit due to obstructions. I've been playing a lot of 14.1 lately and using spin induced throw opens up a gambit of shot options when dealing with a heavily congested table.
Anyways, the point was you suggested you could do anything with TOI (other than the short list of things you said you couldn't) that other players could do with any CB spin. However you cannot increase the cut angle of a shot with inside spin (TOI). This would require outside spin.
You should try it.
There is a tip target on the inside of the cueball, when pointed at the center or edge of the object ball that will make every shot on the table. This is what you are striving for, don't worry about the spin you are putting on the cue ball because after contact there won't be any spin. That's why the champion road players would say "he's got it on a string" or "he floats the cueball" to describe the after-contact-reaction on the cueball.Well CJ I tried your technique today. I have always had a harder time with centerball shots than I do english shots. Just the way my stroke is. Works great!!
My apologies... I recently discovered that I am absolutely clueless regarding this game. Disregard the thoughts I have posted within your thread. I have zero doubt the things I have personally seen manifest on the table that don't jive with what I read on this board are nothing more than a figment of my imagination.The Touch of Inside increases every cut angle....in the English language "Increase" and "Open" don't have the same meaning. And, yes, cuing the ball to the inside does increase my ability to make cut shots because I'm simply aiming my tip at the edge of the object ball.
And, for the record, TOI is not the same as "inside spin," we covered that a few days ago, if the cueball doesn't make one rotation it's like Twisting a bank......if someone thinks they are playing the TOI Technique and using inside English they aren't.
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We may be the same, the ole "playing two sides against the middle" routine.....the ultimate Hegelian Dialectic, like the psychological operation they are doing on TV these days.The only thing missing in this thread is.......the one and only........Matt 007. Be interesting to see how he and Mr. Touch of Inside interact.
Here's some other things to consider to help your shotmaking, 34YearsOfPlayin....wow, mine has almost been 50 years, hard to believe!Well CJ I tried your technique today. I have always had a harder time with centerball shots than I do english shots. Just the way my stroke is. Works great!!
Or line up to hit center pocket, then add a touch of side and adjust your aim for squirt. Identical shot - just described normally and without the “pocket maximizing” or “error reducing” fantasies....maximize the pocket size. This means you line up to undercut the shot slightly (aim in the pocket, but on the "undercut side") and then either spin it, or deflect it to overcut{side} slightly.
Nobody can line up to hit the exact center of the pocket, it's not visually possible unless the shot is straight in or close.Or line up to hit center pocket, then add a touch of side and adjust your aim for squirt. Identical shot - just described normally and without the “pocket maximizing” or “error reducing” fantasies.
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I have never paid much attention to the Mosconi Cup.Nobody can line up to hit the exact center of the pocket, it's not visually possible unless the shot is straight in or close.
I'd say few people can get down to the exact center of the cueball either, when SKY Woodward, (the VIP of the Mosconi Cup the last two years) was in Dallas we photographed him getting down to what he thought was exact center - He was a "Touch" to the inside naturally on his shots.
Speaking of the Mosconi Cup, just got word today that they players are on their way. GOOD LUCK IN LONDON, I still remember what it's like, and how rewarding it is to bring the CUP back to the USA......Earl Strickland and I drank champagne out of it, but that's another story.
This is exactly what I have done proficiently for years, but again, I really have zero clue what I'm doing, so please don't let that mislead you.Or line up to hit center pocket, then add a touch of side and adjust your aim for squirt. Identical shot - just described normally and without the “pocket maximizing” or “error reducing” fantasies.
Sounds like you're talking about a "center of pocket" that's inside it somewhere. That's not a useful center for aiming purposes - the pocket's "center" for aiming purposes is at its mouth, midway between the pocket points, which can be seen clearly from everywhere.Nobody can line up to hit the exact center of the pocket, it's not visually possible unless the shot is straight in or close.
Seriously or just sarcasm? MC did start out as a British made-4-tv exhibition but it quickly morphed into a 'us-vs.-them' grudge match. Been some great matches and high drama in the series.I have never paid much attention to the Mosconi Cup.
It always appeared to me to be more of an “exhibition” than a pool tournament.
What year did pj play on the team.