Using light reflection for aiming

Patrick Johnson said:
Can you be more specific? What are the "CB reflection" and the "OB reflection"? If there are multiple lights, aren't there multiple reflections of those lights on each ball? What if the number of lights is different from one table to the next? What if they're spaced differently over the table? What if one is flourescent tubes and the other is incandescent bulbs (different shapes)?

pj
chgo
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None of that matters. Look at the reflections as a "shape" ... if there are incandescent bulbs.... imagine a shape from the farthest left bulb to the farthest right bulb, and from the bottom of the line of lights to the top of the line of lights (that area is the shape). The shape-- no matter what will be like a long rectangle or parallelogram. From those references, it's what I said in the previous post. If the lights are flourescent, you'll see rows of "bars". The limits of the bars is your shape. Number or location really have no affect. The more incandescent lights, the better, however. You want a "long" shape.

I banked really well for a long time with that, i just found a better method since then.
 
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if every table was the same size,

and every light was perfectly centered on every table..

and everything was equal everywhere all the time..

then this might have some merit... but just because it works in your buddies basement doesn't mean it will work under TV lights...
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Can you be more specific? What are the "CB reflection" and the "OB reflection"? If there are multiple lights, aren't there multiple reflections of those lights on each ball? What if the number of lights is different from one table to the next? What if they're spaced differently over the table? What if one is flourescent tubes and the other is incandescent bulbs (different shapes)?

pj
chgo
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Yeah, Patrick, on this one I'm right in your corner. I don't see how this could work with the various types of lights. Also, is the dot of light on the OB the contact point? I'm not picking up on how this works. Anyone care to do one of those computer generated thingies?
MULLY
 
softshot said:
if every table was the same size,

and every light was perfectly centered on every table..

and everything was equal everywhere all the time..

then this might have some merit... but just because it works in your buddies basement doesn't mean it will work under TV lights...
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all these variables make no difference. the reflections are always there , if they don't line up adjust your aim to correct it.
 
Scott Lee said:
That's an old wive's tale...aiming by light reflections is an inconsistent and inaccurate method.

Scott Lee
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Thank you.

Use whatever you want to aim at. If it is a reflection, fine- but the notion that there is a light/reflection in the proper place for aiming on all shots is pretty silly.
 
mullyman said:
Yeah, Patrick, on this one I'm right in your corner. I don't see how this could work with the various types of lights. Also, is the dot of light on the OB the contact point? I'm not picking up on how this works. Anyone care to do one of those computer generated thingies?
MULLY
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How about you, PJ CHGO, and that other guy simply try it and report back?

I don't care what table it's on what what lights are used or if the lights are EVEN ON TOP OF THE TABLE. Don't know how any of you bank, but I'm even odds on you banking better than you do now from following my instructions above.

If it only working in my--- or my buddy's basement--- would I REALLY wanna use it for a year?

I'm not going to get all worked up if no one wants to listen on this site. If I didn't have this info, and someone posted that info.... I'd play with it for a day or two, ask some questions, try it for another day or two and then report back.

If the four of us met up at a random pool hall, i'm probably the odds-on favorite to beat everyone by reflectioning everyone to death in bank pool.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
None of that matters. Look at the reflections as a "shape" ... if there are incandescent bulbs.... imagine a shape from the farthest left bulb to the farthest right bulb, and from the bottom of the line of lights to the top of the line of lights (that area is the shape). The shape-- no matter what will be like a long rectangle or parallelogram. From those references, it's what I said in the previous post. If the lights are flourescent, you'll see rows of "bars". The limits of the bars is your shape. Number or location really have no affect. The more incandescent lights, the better, however. You want a "long" shape.

I banked really well for a long time with that, i just found a better method since then.
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Spider, I use the same system to bank and it works for me as well. Speaking for myself, I find it extremely reliable. There is no 'poking and hoping' with this system when applied correctly. Balls will be pocketed 90% of the time. I have much fate in those averages.
 
Nostroke said:
Thank you.

Use whatever you want to aim at. If it is a reflection, fine- but the notion that there is a light/reflection in the proper place for aiming on all shots is pretty silly.
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we're only talking about banks here
 
androd said:
we're only talking about banks here
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Meaning what? Banks come in as many angles as any other shot, from straight to thin cut. How are they any different? Why would this work better for them?

As with some other mysterious "systems", there seems to be nobody who can actually explain this one beyond the assurance that it "works great".

Yeah, right.

pj
chgo
 
Spider,
Never mind the blah blah. Document it with some simple drawings etc and we can all try it. If your right I tip my hat to you. The Engineer in me says...no sale. Where is Popular Mechanics when you need them? I would suggest you spend a few minutes describing the process and we can try/dissect it.

Until then I'm going to put it in the "Quackery" bucket. Now excuse me while I go put some tinfoil on my head so the Aliens can't read my mind while I read my Horoscope.

Nick
 
Nick B said:
Spider,
Never mind the blah blah. Document it with some simple drawings etc and we can all try it. If your right I tip my hat to you. The Engineer in me says...no sale. Where is Popular Mechanics when you need them? I would suggest you spend a few minutes describing the process and we can try/dissect it.

Until then I'm going to put it in the "Quackery" bucket. Now excuse me while I go put some tinfoil on my head so the Aliens can't read my mind while I read my Horoscope.

Nick
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Nick, my descriptions are pretty detailed. When I read them, I can picture exactly what I'm saying. Do me a favor and put it in your quakery bucket.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Meaning what? Banks come in as many angles as any other shot, from straight to thin cut. How are they any different? Why would this work better for them?

As with some other mysterious "systems", there seems to be nobody who can actually explain this one beyond the assurance that it "works great".

Yeah, right.

pj
chgo
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i tried to explain it in post #3 . i don't know how to make it any clearer.
i'm speaking about one rail short and long banks.it's possible it may not work great for you. but it does for many. sorry it's such a mystery. as i said before i look at 2 to 3 systems to hit the bank, and they all pretty much align to the same angle.
 
I'm gonna make it clearer to the people wrapping tin foil around their heads and those who would rather diss something than to try it themselves.

FYI:

If an alien spacecraft from planet Serpo floated down above your house and shot a particle beam through your window and onto your pool table...assuming you didn't have any other lights on that would cause reflection "confusion"..... I'd be using their particle beam to bank balls up their ass....to death.

Anyways, I just made a video in my basement to show you guys how this works. I'm bored and thought I'd help the other guy peel the Reynolds Wrap off his head...the coast is clear, dude.

Give me 10 mins to upload the video to poolvids.com.... I'll paste the link here. I'm no Mike Page or Joe Tucker with internet instruction, but maybe this will help some of your games out. For those who think this stuff is a joke... just ignore it.
 
Thanks for posting the video. I'm eager to try it as I really enjoy playing bank pool and and bit of an edge would be great to have.
 
Neil said:
O.K. I am one of the many tht scoffed at this system. I did try it initially, and, since I have fl. lights, it made no sense whatsoever. However, i did watch your video. And thanks for making it. So, I went down and tried it again.

I will give it some merit. However, I feel it just isn't accurate enough for me. You had better results than I did at 50%. But 50% banking will get you broke. I much prefer the 1/8ball, 1/4ball, and full ball method myself. But, to each their own. Use what works for you.

So, in summary, I will recant and say that there is SOME merit to it.
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Keep in mind, I didn't even 1-stroke... I didn't fine tune anything. I agree 50% banking gets you broke... but I 50%ed without even a practice stroke. If I was motivated and took the time to actually practice stroke, I could post a video with a WAY higher %.

There are better ways of banking than reflections, I just wanted to prove it's accurate. That was the first time I even used the system in over a year. When I used to bank with the lights all the time, and my speed was fine tuned, I made a lot of balls.

Center-to-edge banking or Ron Vitello's method spots this method the 5-out.

P.S. To only say there is "some" merit to it when I didn't even 1-stroke and never went a ball outside of the pocket isn't showing enough respect to the method... but whatever.
 
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wasn't following this thread but upon seeing the video I came here to check it out. I tried it and it worked pretty well, and I am a hack.
 
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