Value of Cues for Current Cuemakers

Best playing instead...

I am more interested in the best playing custom cues. Sorry to mud up the thread and go off topic, but I want to know your opinions on the best playing custom cues because I am going to get a custom cue in the future. As of now, with my skill level, what I have should do it, but my curiosity is itching. Thanks all. Happy shooting! :)

Chino
 
chin0 said:
I am more interested in the best playing custom cues. Sorry to mud up the thread and go off topic, but I want to know your opinions on the best playing custom cues because I am going to get a custom cue in the future. As of now, with my skill level, what I have should do it, but my curiosity is itching. Thanks all. Happy shooting! :)

Chino
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Virtually all the top guys mentioned got where they are based on the playing qualities of their work first and foremost, so I don't see the lists changing much. Keep in mind that most of the makers in the highly collectible category started out with rather simple designs that got more complex as their skills improved. Because they were already in high demand for their playability, it allowed them to get into making more intricate stuff. The demand for their product commanded ever higher prices that justified them using exotic/expensive materials and committing many labor hours to intricate designs - they could get paid for the effort. But without exception the "buzz" for any of these guys started because of the playing qualities of their work. With any of the top guys, they aren't making fancy/exotic cues at the expense of playability - that always comes first. This is especially true of any of the Hall of Famers. But you could certainly add some newer guys that haven't been mentioned. If you have a price range in mind, start a thread and I'm sure some good names will come up.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
Virtually all the top guys mentioned got where they are based on the playing qualities of their work first and foremost, so I don't see the lists changing much. Keep in mind that most of the makers in the highly collectible category started out with rather simple designs that got more complex as their skills improved. Because they were already in high demand for their playability, it allowed them to get into making more intricate stuff. The demand for their product commanded ever higher prices that justified them using exotic/expensive materials and committing many labor hours to intricate designs - they could get paid for the effort. But without exception the "buzz" for any of these guys started because of the playing qualities of their work. With any of the top guys, they aren't making fancy/exotic cues at the expense of playability - that always comes first. This is especially true of any of the Hall of Famers. But you could certainly add some newer guys that haven't been mentioned. If you have a price range in mind, start a thread and I'm sure some good names will come up.
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Thanks for the tip. I will keep that in mind and start a new thread when I am ready to order. Have a good one.
Chino
 
I have played with most of the top cues on these lists.....and BY FAR the SUGARTREE cues are the best hitting cues ......also very easy to sell.


If you have hit with a sugartree you know what I mean.......if not.....well,,,,,then you dont :D :D :D

IMHO :thumbup:
 
Brickman said:
I have played with most of the top cues on these lists.....and BY FAR the SUGARTREE cues are the best hitting cues ......also very easy to sell.


If you have hit with a sugartree you know what I mean.......if not.....well,,,,,then you dont :D :D :D

IMHO :thumbup:
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your 1000% correct, they are amazing cues. To me they are up there with Szams, and Boars in how good they play.
 
According to Eric Crisp, Wes Hunter's cues are very similar to his own Sugartrees in terms of quality and hit. Eric recommended Wes because they use the same ferrule and shaft materials, often share sneaky blanks, and had the same standards.
 
I cant beleive no one said anything about MR. RON HALEY as far as cue maker I have been told no one does it better..Steve Klien also makes a great cue,,but Haley holds value better then anyone really increases in value as soon as it is made. I own 1 since 1994 won it in turny at time worth 300-400 now 2800-3500
 
Mr. RON HALEY makes the best they increase in value as soon as its made..dont take my word far it ask anybody that has one.I cant beleave he not on any of yalls list.Steven Klien makes a great cue and becoming well sought after.Of course Gina cue,Sugertree,Ron Black and most of the others on everybodys list.. NO.1 RON HALEY
 
wolfcookie said:
Mr. RON HALEY makes the best they increase in value as soon as its made..dont take my word far it ask anybody that has one.I cant beleave he not on any of yalls list.Steven Klien makes a great cue and becoming well sought after.Of course Gina cue,Sugertree,Ron Black and most of the others on everybodys list.. NO.1 RON HALEY
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This thread is old. Take a look back 1-2 pages. Haley was probably not in most people's top ten list two years ago, but you are right...he certainly is now. His stuff has just really spiked in mass popularity these last two years.
 
Easiest to Sell:

Dennis Searing
Gus Szamboti
Barry Szamboti
George Balabushka
Joel Hercek
 
wolfcookie said:
Mr. RON HALEY makes the best they increase in value as soon as its made..dont take my word far it ask anybody that has one.I cant beleave he not on any of yalls list.Steven Klien makes a great cue and becoming well sought after.Of course Gina cue,Sugertree,Ron Black and most of the others on everybodys list.. NO.1 RON HALEY
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Good god Gertie!!....take a breath, wolfie. While I have never played with one of his cues, there are many who would agree that Mr Haley's craftsmanship is top-notch...as are several other of the 'top tier' makers.

It boils down to simply this....for as many different playing styles that there are...there is a cue maker who can accommodate them. Some people swear by the way SW's play...others are not so swayed. It is purely a matter of taste...both in aesthetics and playability. As to relative values...it is all about supply and demand, pure and simple.

Lisa
 
What about Chris Nitti, I read this whole thread and he was mentioned only once. I am curious where his cues stand with everyone.........I am committed to 2K for one when I get back home.....I know this is a slight jack of the thread but I figure it is OK since it is old.
 
I also think you have to take into account how regional the popularity of a cuemaker is. Tim Scrugss would be in the top 3 in the St Louis region for 20 years now. I have never ONCE had anyone ask for or try to sell/ trade a Dennis Searing or a Bob Manzino. Both great cuemakers but maybe too high for a midwestern blue collar economy like St Louis.

I get a few requests for MOOKY cues.

(meucci)
 
I can't believe that ANY discussion about the "playability" of the top custom cuemakers, doesn't include Richard Harrris of Blue Grass Cues. The materials, fit and finish is top shelf and they play incredible. As a matter of fact second hand opinion of their "excellent hit and playability" is the sole reason that I bought one without ever hitting a ball with one. It plays better than just about ANYTHING I've played with. I haven't "owned" alot of these high end cues, but I've had the chance to hit some balls with a lot of the top cuemakers work. Another thing about Harris's work is the consistincy.

Every top cuemaker get's it right most of the time but sometimes they build one that is "magic". Richard seems to be able to duplicate that magical combination over and over. I don't think I've ever even heard of one that "just didn't hit well"
 
current cue makers, my 10 in no particular order:

1. Joss West
2. Tad
3. Bender
4. Cognoscenti
5. Szamboti
6. Southwest
7. Kersenbrock
8. Tascarella
9. Schick
10. Mottey
 
Anthony_Beeler said:
Here are some of my thoughts in no particular order:

Barry Szamboti
Joss West
Southwest
Paul Mottey
Cognoscenti
Bill McDaniel
Tim Scruggs
Leonard Bludworth
Schon
Mike Sigel
Jerry Oliver
Black Boar
Judd Fuller
Bob Runde
Hagan Cues
Bill Schick
Thomas Wayne
Mike Bender
Artistic Engineering
Phillippi
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How can you include Mike Sigel and not have Gina cue????
 
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