I saw in the photo gallery on AZ home page that pictures were taken of SVB and Jeff De Luna playing at Bugsy's Lair over in PI. Does anyone know if they were gambling and if so who won? Please let me know. Thanks.
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Van Boening vs. De Luna
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Johnson said:
what does it mean marking balls that have been moved? i saw this a few times in manila where the ref would mark the table with chalk. i could not figure out why.
Shane is just awesome. I find it very impressive that Corey and Mika are there and instead of getting in action they are putting there money in with Shane. He is in my opinion the best pool player on the planet right now. He is beaming with confidence and has no fear of anyone. Not mention he is just a great person. My hats off to you Shane keep up the domination. 
eaglesfan44 said:Shane is just awesome. I find it very impressive that Corey and Mika are there and instead of getting in action they are putting there money in with Shane. He is in my opinion the best pool player on the planet right now. He is beaming with confidence and has no fear of anyone. Not mention he is just a great person. My hats off to you Shane keep up the domination.
too early to say about that remark ..JMHO
mindtriplx said:
they put marks around the ball in a relative distance, if the ball move, they will know because the distance would increase or decrease. this is a way to prove to the offending player that he committed a foul, this also prevents doubts on referees, since money games are not in a tournament environment and referees on this kind of match could be anyone knowledgeable enough.
jeffwinters said:
i guess that makes sense. they also did some other things i wasnt used to. like when i made a game they would write the race and amount on the table with chalk. as well as keep the score on the table with chalk. i guess its just another way of keeping people honest. thanks for clearing it up for me.
PoolBum said:
They mark any ball that might get involve when there is a chance that a guy might accidentally move a ball while trying to hit the cue ball. Like when a guy is over reaching over a ball while trying to hit the cueball. The referee eyeballs it (before a player line's up his/her shot) if a ball might get bump with the cue, hand, arm or shirt and the referee would mark a certain spot that is near to that ball/s. Also any of the players can ask the referee to mark the ball/s
Hope this makes sense...
By "chalk" are you saying white (blackboard chalk) or the blue, tip chalk? Does it get cleaned off before the next game (or set in the case of the bet marking)? And how?
Too bad the ref was going to sleep the call. Good job Jay for keeping them honest.
Too bad the ref was going to sleep the call. Good job Jay for keeping them honest.
White old blackboard chack.mosconiac said:
Hell, they even use that to mark the score on the CLOTH.
They even use that to write the spot ( weight/handicap )on the board near the table. People bet right before EVERY GAME starts.
Of all the up and coming players from the Philippines, I find Jeff De Luna to be a little too arrogant for my taste. Yes he is talented but so are a lot of other Filipino players who appear to be humble and just let their cues do their talking for them.
BTW, according to Jay's post in the WPC forum (excerpt below), SVB was beaten by Warren Kiamco 28 to 17 so he is not invincible. At their level of play any, nobody can win 100% of the time.
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Went to One Side last night and it was a pool circus. Like a mini Derby City, with good games to watch (and bet on) all over the place. This is a nine table room, and the following matches were going on at the same time. Shane vs. Kiamco for 140,000p (about $3,250), Francisco vs. Orcullo for 150,000p, Alcano vs. Reyes for 100,000p. These were the feature match-ups. Ronnie Wiseman was playing Lolo for 1K, and Niels Feijen was playing an unnamed filipino for $500. ALL were playing long Ten Ball races. Shane's match was to 28, Django's to 25, Efren's to 21 and the other two to 15.
SHANE LOST! Yes, it can happen. He is not invincible. And Warren played good. Even though Shane has had some success with the filipinos, they will keep on challenging him. That's how it is over here. If you are the top gun, everyone wants to play you. It is a big deal to be THE MAN! I mean look at who's playing right now. The very best players continue to challenge each other. And for some serious cash too. That is one big reason they stay on top. This is something that no school in Taiwan can duplicate. JMO of course.
Dennis was close to winning when I left (21-18) and Efren-Alcano was still early. Shane lost 28-17, and Ronnie W. lost 15-13. Niels fell also 15-11. Filipinos rule! Shane and I talked briefly after his match. He will be going back for one more match tonite, before flying out in the morning. He said he would like to come back in February for an extended stay. I told him a month over here and he would come home a better player. There is no shortage of competition for him here, and no one asks for a spot!
Yes, I had a piece of Shane and Wiseman. I made a 10,000p donation to the filipino pool economy. And that's why they love me. They know I will be betting when I show up. One young guy hustled me to play some Ten Ball. I told him we could play some One Pocket or all Banks. They only want to play 9-Ball, Ten Ball or Rotation here. Kind of amazing since the best One Pocket player in the world is Efren. And Busti, Dennis and Parica play great as well. It just hasn't caught on over here yet. Or anywhere else in Asia. But it will some day I'm sure.
BTW, according to Jay's post in the WPC forum (excerpt below), SVB was beaten by Warren Kiamco 28 to 17 so he is not invincible. At their level of play any, nobody can win 100% of the time.
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Went to One Side last night and it was a pool circus. Like a mini Derby City, with good games to watch (and bet on) all over the place. This is a nine table room, and the following matches were going on at the same time. Shane vs. Kiamco for 140,000p (about $3,250), Francisco vs. Orcullo for 150,000p, Alcano vs. Reyes for 100,000p. These were the feature match-ups. Ronnie Wiseman was playing Lolo for 1K, and Niels Feijen was playing an unnamed filipino for $500. ALL were playing long Ten Ball races. Shane's match was to 28, Django's to 25, Efren's to 21 and the other two to 15.
SHANE LOST! Yes, it can happen. He is not invincible. And Warren played good. Even though Shane has had some success with the filipinos, they will keep on challenging him. That's how it is over here. If you are the top gun, everyone wants to play you. It is a big deal to be THE MAN! I mean look at who's playing right now. The very best players continue to challenge each other. And for some serious cash too. That is one big reason they stay on top. This is something that no school in Taiwan can duplicate. JMO of course.
Dennis was close to winning when I left (21-18) and Efren-Alcano was still early. Shane lost 28-17, and Ronnie W. lost 15-13. Niels fell also 15-11. Filipinos rule! Shane and I talked briefly after his match. He will be going back for one more match tonite, before flying out in the morning. He said he would like to come back in February for an extended stay. I told him a month over here and he would come home a better player. There is no shortage of competition for him here, and no one asks for a spot!
Yes, I had a piece of Shane and Wiseman. I made a 10,000p donation to the filipino pool economy. And that's why they love me. They know I will be betting when I show up. One young guy hustled me to play some Ten Ball. I told him we could play some One Pocket or all Banks. They only want to play 9-Ball, Ten Ball or Rotation here. Kind of amazing since the best One Pocket player in the world is Efren. And Busti, Dennis and Parica play great as well. It just hasn't caught on over here yet. Or anywhere else in Asia. But it will some day I'm sure.
Of all the up and coming players from the Philippines, I find Jeff De Luna to be a little too arrogant for my taste. Yes he is talented but so are a lot of other Filipino players who appear to be humble and just let their cues do their talking for them.
You are not alone in thinking that.
I think he has a Napoleon Syndrome.
You are not alone in thinking that.
I think he has a Napoleon Syndrome.
JoeyInCali said:
I like Dennis Orcullo and Lee Van Corteza more. I want to see SVB match up with Dennis, Lee VAn or even Roberto Gomez too (once he recovers
).IMHO, any of these 3 could would offer a better match for the viewers compared to the Earl/SVB match. Shane's simply too good for Earl at this point.
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f210 said:I like Dennis Orcullo and Lee Van Corteza more. I want to see SVB match up with Dennis, Lee VAn or even Roberto Gomez too (once he recovers
IMHO, any of these 3 could would offer a better match for the viewers compared to the Earl/SVB match. Shane's simply too good for Earl at this point.
Orcullo VS SVB would be a match I would love to see.... 10 ball race to 100
Snapshot9 said:
The "Texas Express" Filipino way is CB and object ball (lowest numbered ball
in 9 and 10 ball or Rotation) foul only. The ref will put white chalk marks on
balls that could be in the shooter's way. The best example is a jacked up position
where the CB is frozen behind another ball. Ref will put white chalk marks on
the ball that's jacking the player up, and any other ball that the shooter
might inadvertently hit while going through his stroking motion. If the
shooter moves a ball, the ref will quickly put the said ball in it's original
place with the help of the white chalk marks while the shot is still in motion
and it is still considered a good shot UNLESS, the CB or one of the balls
that was put in motion by the shooter legitimately hits the moved ball that
was put back in its original place, and a foul shot will be ruled.
At least that's how I remembered it, FWIW...