Because he's so consistent with it
Van Boening vs. Gorst 10-Ball Race to 120, Rematch -- General Comments Thread
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I believe you are wrong.
It's true that, just as is still the case today, he tended not to be given the proper credit for his defensive wizardry back then, but he was already super-elite in defensive play even in 2022, miles above Ouschan and Alcaide even then, although perhaps not quite Pagulayan's equal. To be fair, though, Alex is top three of all time in defensive play, with only Reyes and Varner in the conversation with him, so my comment is hardly a knock at Josh.
Here we agree. It's no coincidence.
Fedor and Josh have both walked in the giant footsteps of Reyes, SVB, Bustamante, Pagulayan and Orcullo in that they have greatly refined many of their playing skills by participating at the Derby City Classic year after year. Five years ago, few of us thought that Josh and Fedor would be the ones to beat for the coveted Master of the Table title at Derby City, but they just keep wowing us.
The legends of pool have always stressed the value of playing all the games, and Josh and Fedor are, once again, proving them right.
Highly doubtful.
Fedor posted on his FB that it was likely the last time they played.
I don't know how quickly SVB wants to grab that tiger by the tail again. 40+ racks...I would imagine that is pretty embarassing for a legend like Shane...
But then again, maybe it just pisses him off and motivates him...
maybe fedor made himself a disservice winning with such a big margin. could have slowed down a little and got a third match
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tony chohan beat dennis o the first big match pretty dominantly
after that one match, dennis outplayed him over all in the other 2 sets by alot
Agree 100%. Alex Pagulayan came close, and Josh and Fedor are knocking on the door, but Efren remains the most imaginative player we have ever seen.
The level has gone through the roof. Today's best run out on 4" pockets every bit as well as the last generation of players did on 4 1/2" pockets. It is just plain scary how straight the top few shoot these days.
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I'm sure @Fatboy or some of the other members who know him would have a much better read on things, but as I commented earlier, I saw a windows open interview on FB where SVB made the statement that he wasn't hungry anymore, and that he didn't NEED to play everybody and win all the cash.
Context is important, and I think the interview was about matching up with Filler in 1 pkt., but as soon as I saw that video, I told my buddy that Fedor was going to win...and I had already bet on SVB!
When he came out in short pants with his hat turned around backwards, I should have just went ahead and paid off
As Marvelous Marvin Haglar famously said "It's hard to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5 am when you're sleeping in silk sheets"
Context is important, and I think the interview was about matching up with Filler in 1 pkt., but as soon as I saw that video, I told my buddy that Fedor was going to win...and I had already bet on SVB!
When he came out in short pants with his hat turned around backwards, I should have just went ahead and paid off
As Marvelous Marvin Haglar famously said "It's hard to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5 am when you're sleeping in silk sheets"
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I would be more worried about alienating his own US fan base. He seems to put a lot into curating a market for himself. He probably just lost himself way more in the long run by beating SVB so convincingly.
I think thats selling Fedor short.
Shane played terribly, but there were long stretches where it didnt matter at all what Shane did.
On the contrary, Fedor is a beloved figure in the US. Yes, he is an awesome player who, along with Filler, is redefining the level of excellence that is possible in our sport. More importantly ....
... Fedor is one of the best stories we've ever seen in pro pool. Unable to safely return to Russia, where both his family and coach reside, due to the Ukrainian war, he had to scramble to make a good life for himself here in America. At one point, WPA even banned him from all sanctioned events on the basis of his nationality alone, temporarily limiting his earnings power.
... but Fedor looked adversity right in the face and fought back hard. His story is an inspiration to so many of us and he has a large and very loyal fan base here in America, at least in part, because of the strong character he has displayed.
And Shane barely beat Fedor the 1st match and now he lost by 42 games
That makes zero sense
Yep, I saw the interview and thought the same thing. Not a good head space for wining.I'm sure @Fatboy or some of the other members who know him would have a much better read on things, but as I commented earlier, I saw a windows open interview on FB where SVB made the statement that he wasn't hungry anymore, and that he didn't NEED to play everybody and win all the cash.
Context is important, and I think the interview was about matching up with Filler in 1 pkt., but as soon as I saw that video, I told my buddy that Fedor was going to win...and I had already bet on SVB!
When he came out in short pants with his hat turned around backwards, I should have just went ahead and paid off
As Marvelous Marvin Haglar famously said "It's hard to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5 am when you're sleeping in silk sheets"
Shane never had the same consistent ball pocketing skills as the other elite players. It's actually quite impressive he's had such an amazing career in spite of this. It wasn't always just his break that kept him on, or near the top though, he was just an amazing front runner thatmo knew how to get across the finish line.
The game marches on, today's top players cue just a bit more consistently than SVB ever did.
The game marches on, today's top players cue just a bit more consistently than SVB ever did.