I use to think that 8 ball on the pro level would be fun to watch, but too often it seems very easy for them to run out unless the game is played on a barbox or with really tight pockets. That's my only qualm.
Varner Vs Frost 1pct, 14.1 and 8-Ball
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I use to think that 8 ball on the pro level would be fun to watch, but too often it seems very easy for them to run out unless the game is played on a barbox or with really tight pockets. That's my only qualm.
People want to compare gambling and exhibitions, when you take pride into account and the money difference, well what is the real difference? One thing I know is that match was better then 99% of money matches I have seen, so much for an exhibition.
Think this is a great idea.
I would like to make a suggestion on the format. How about each day they play three games of each with each game being worth one point and then each game has the opportunity for a bonus point. In one pocket, if you win 8-0 then you get two points. In 8 ball, if you break and run then you get two points, and if you run 50 balls in 14.1 you get a bonus point.
Oh, sorry, in 14.1, make it a race to 50. Reasoning behind that is in one pocket and eight ball, when a player makes a mistake it usually will cost them the game. In 14.1 going to 200, mistakes by players may only cost them the game if a player runs high numbers. Only going to 50 makes that mistake become just as costly as the other games. Also, if a player is at 50 and has only ran 20 balls, he gets to continue shooting until he misses or runs 50 to get his bonus point for that game.
Just a suggestion, either way, thank you for trying to get this set up and hopefully it goes off woth great success.
I would like to make a suggestion on the format. How about each day they play three games of each with each game being worth one point and then each game has the opportunity for a bonus point. In one pocket, if you win 8-0 then you get two points. In 8 ball, if you break and run then you get two points, and if you run 50 balls in 14.1 you get a bonus point.
Oh, sorry, in 14.1, make it a race to 50. Reasoning behind that is in one pocket and eight ball, when a player makes a mistake it usually will cost them the game. In 14.1 going to 200, mistakes by players may only cost them the game if a player runs high numbers. Only going to 50 makes that mistake become just as costly as the other games. Also, if a player is at 50 and has only ran 20 balls, he gets to continue shooting until he misses or runs 50 to get his bonus point for that game.
Just a suggestion, either way, thank you for trying to get this set up and hopefully it goes off woth great success.
Didn't Nick rob Scott before playing one pocket?
Off the top of my head I could not say if Nick robbed Scott playing one pocket. However I imagine it could have happened remember Nick is a world class 1 pocket player himself and as we all know between 2 great players on any given day one can beat the other. All it takes is someone catching a gear or someone getting just a couple of bad rolls and that can turn a match upside down.
From talking to both of them they both have a great deal of respect for the others game. Nick said that he felt Scott was the best 12 pocket pplayer in the world right now and is a solid player all around. He reminded me that Scott came in 3rd or something at the US Open 9-Ball one year and as Nick said 'You don't get that close without being able to make balls". When I told Scott that Nick was probably gonna be the underdog he said "What?? Nick is a great player at everything and has been for years I am not going to discount him playing these games"
On another note I hope to talk to Kolby's today to figure out a game plan.
50 is way too short for professional players in Straight pool. It would easily take less than an hour with moderate paced play.
If they both put up their own money $25K ea and Nick was healthy Varner takes it. Nicky digs in and handles pressure as good as any player ever has and thrives in it, he never lets up, kinda like Nadal in tennis. Him going to the Phillipines and playing Efren in his prime, in his court and beating him, tells us his nature. All around in 8 9 10 ball roation games, and banks and one hole and 8 ball and 14.1, theres not been a more complete player like him in the US since the Mosconi days, and very few back then played All games well. If Nick picks the time place and equipment, which he should being twice the age of Frost, Scott will have a tough time.
Yes, a single game to 50 would more than likely take less than an hour, and that is another reason I suggested playing three games of 8 ball, three games of one pocket, and three games of straight pool to 50 each day in my OP.
In my opinion, the benefit from having a short race to 50 in this format equals out the different values of each game in this format. Also, it allows viewers to see the strategy during the beginning of the games 9 different times, and it gives 9 different end game situations that commentators can build up the excitement of straight pool.
But again, its not my decision and I am sure that whatever the players and Mark decide, its going to be a great show.
I will bet no one would like a little wager on Nick against Scott. Reality has to be considered about Nicks age. He doesn't play close to his top speed now and really has very little chance against Scott. In 1 pocket I would guess a even game would be Scott giving 10-7 or more. I have always liked Nick but this won't be close!:thumbup: