Velosity Pro is FAST

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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I had Velosity Pro cloth put on my Valley today. WOW, is it fast. I had the mechanic stretch the cloth as tight as possible...which he did. It's like playing on glass. At first I thought the slate wasn't put back level, as the balls kept rolling, and rolling. After I put a level all over it and saw it was level I shot the QB from different places all over the table. All the shots stayed straight, even when shot very soft. It's like playing on Somonis 300 3-cushion billiard cloth. It will loosen up some in a few days. In case anyone in the Tampa Bay area needs table work on their home table, Allen's Billiard Services did a great job on mine at a very reasonable price. Johnnyt
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thanks for the input Johnny. I would like to hear back from you in about 2-3 months to see what you think of the cloth.
 
Johnnyt said:
You got it. Johnnyt
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I know it's only on one day but the humidity was 91 out on the patio at 8:00 AM this morning. It played just as fast as it did at 60 humidity the day before. If that was my Championship cloth it would have been unplayable at 91.

Again I know it's early but it feels good to finally be able to play at any time, not just when the humidity is below 65. I still got 5 rail back and forth long way and side with a hard stroks, but way under a break stroke.

If it plays this well for me for 6 months I'd be happy to buy more and have it put on. I know guys that have several tables or in the coin op business can't deal with that short a life-line. And maybe it will last a lot longer, I don't know. Johnnyt
 
How is the velocity holding up for you ? I was going to do my new 9ft with it.
 
ruggz said:
How is the velocity holding up for you ? I was going to do my new 9ft with it.
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I've had Velocity on my Gold Crown for a couple of months now. I used RKC's method for installation and stretched it just as tight as I could possibly stretch it (nearly 5 inches side to side). I am noticing the same issues that Glen mentions with installing Velocity 'too' tight: the balls track funny. I can see, from looking down the table, that the grain appears to run straight. I took extra care to ensure that the grain was as straight as I could possibly get it. (Using Glen's method for installation, it's almost hard not to get the grain straight.) I am also not overly impressed with the speed of this cloth on my table. My table plays about like Mali felt on a barbox. In fact, new Mali felt plays faster than what I have. I suppose there could be an outside variable affecting the way my table plays, but it's hard to imagine what that could be. My table is in my living room, where it is always 72 degrees F. I have to believe that humidity is not a factor, as it's been below freezing for weeks here in Upstate New York. Now that the temperature has risen upwards of 80 degrees F, I still do not notice too much difference in play.

As for how it's holding up so far: I have played on the table quite a bit and have a few friends who play on it quite a bit... There are a few burn marks here and there, but surprisingly less than what I had on my old barbox with Simonis 860. Perhaps it's purely coincidental, but it is what it is.

I would not discourage anyone from buying Velocity for a 9 foot table, as it is half the cost of Simonis. Less stretch than what I used may produce better results concerning speed and playability. Good luck.

Geoff
 
bradsh98 said:
I've had Velocity on my Gold Crown for a couple of months now. I used RKC's method for installation and stretched it just as tight as I could possibly stretch it (nearly 5 inches side to side). I am noticing the same issues that Glen mentions with installing Velocity 'too' tight: the balls track funny. I can see, from looking down the table, that the grain appears to run straight. I took extra care to ensure that the grain was as straight as I could possibly get it. (Using Glen's method for installation, it's almost hard not to get the grain straight.) I am also not overly impressed with the speed of this cloth on my table. My table plays about like Mali felt on a barbox. In fact, new Mali felt plays faster than what I have. I suppose there could be an outside variable affecting the way my table plays, but it's hard to imagine what that could be. My table is in my living room, where it is always 72 degrees F. I have to believe that humidity is not a factor, as it's been below freezing for weeks here in Upstate New York. Now that the temperature has risen upwards of 80 degrees F, I still do not notice too much difference in play.

As for how it's holding up so far: I have played on the table quite a bit and have a few friends who play on it quite a bit... There are a few burn marks here and there, but surprisingly less than what I had on my old barbox with Simonis 860. Perhaps it's purely coincidental, but it is what it is.

I would not discourage anyone from buying Velocity for a 9 foot table, as it is half the cost of Simonis. Less stretch than what I used may produce better results concerning speed and playability. Good luck.

Geoff
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Hmm, I also have Velocity Pro on my gold crown. As far as the speed of the cloth it is still playing the same speed since I have installed it, and not too many burn marks. I'm not having tracking issues but I have noticed that it is relaxing a bit on the stretch. overall its a a good cloth IMHO
 
I've only had my Velocity Pro cloth on for three weeks. The mechanic stretched it about to the limit as I asked. It is the fastest Valley 7 foot table I've ever played on, and I've played on hundreds of them. I play about five hours a day on it. It remains a little too fast when the humidity is lower than 40...which it has been down here in Tampa, FL for the three weeks that I've had the cloth on.

As the table is outside in a screened patio I play on it in the morning when the humidity is as high as 95 and all through the day as the humidity sinks to as low as 26 lately.

At 26- 40 % humidity it's still too fast, although playable. At 40 to 70 it's still fast, but I like a super fast table. Even at 70 to 100 % most player would call it fast. The cloth is starting to relax some now. At first, if there were no rails on the table it would have rolled forever. I'm happy with it because the table is outside and is playable at all times of the day or night. It does have burn marks on the cloth. I use a piece of cloth under the QB for breaks, but you can see the trail of light burn marks fome break area to the rack. Probably because it's stretched so tight.

The cloth only cost a tad over $100 for a 7-foot. For me (table outside) it is just about perfect, and getting better (slowing down) as time goes by. If I ever had to put more on I'd not have it stretched so much, but I feel in a few more weeks it will be perfect for me. It probably is a little too fast on a 7- foot for most players. Johnnyt
 
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fsarfino said:
Hmm, I also have Velocity Pro on my gold crown. As far as the speed of the cloth it is still playing the same speed since I have installed it, and not too many burn marks. I'm not having tracking issues but I have noticed that it is relaxing a bit on the stretch. overall its a a good cloth IMHO
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Did you do a side to side stretch?
 
The Velocity Pro cloth has been on my 7' Valley for five weeks now with playing time of five hours a day average. The table is outside in a screened patio in humid Tampa, FL.

At first it was too fast. After about a week it settled down a little, but still too fast for most players. After 5 weeks it still plays about a half to a full table length faster than most would like. For me it's about perfect right now. In the morning when the humidity is from 75-95 it still plays med-fast. In the afternoon right now the humidity is down to 30-50. It plays very fast, but it is playable fast. I would buy it again for an outside table. Mine was stretched to the max, but no roll-offs or tracking noted. IMO this cloth would be too fast stretched this tight for a 7' inside table for most players. Johnnyt
 
bradsh98 said:
I've had Velocity on my Gold Crown for a couple of months now. ..... I am also not overly impressed with the speed of this cloth on my table. My table plays about like Mali felt on a barbox. In fact, new Mali felt plays faster than what I have. ... Geoff
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I'll ask what style of Mali are you referring to before asking what you're smoking. :confused:
For those that don't know, Mali does offer a worsted cloth in addition to several napped styles.
 
The vending company that owns and services all of the bar tables in my area uses Mali cloth on their tables. They claim to use a 19 oz. felt on the standard bar room tables and a 21 oz. felt on the tables used for local bar table tournaments. I don't know all that much about Mali felt, but that's the story I got. Unless, of course, I have that backwards. Perhaps the 19 oz is what they use on the tournament tables. That would make more sense, because it doesn't even seem to be the same type of felt on these tables. I suppose there is a possibility that they use Championship felt on the tournament tables. That would make a lot more sense. Whatever felt it is, it does not pill like the Mali felt in the bar rooms, and plays a bit faster. However, when I contacted the vending company, I was informed that they use Mali felt and that they had two different kinds of it: the 19oz and 21 oz. The faster of the two is what I was referring to in my prior post. However, as of late, my table has gotten a little bit faster. I found it hard to believe, but maybe it was humidity that was causing my problems. I wouldn't say that my table is lightning fast, but it is definitely a lot better than it was a month ago.


Geoff
 
bradsh98 said:
The vending company that owns and services all of the bar tables in my area uses Mali cloth on their tables. They claim to use a 19 oz. felt on the standard bar room tables and a 21 oz. felt on the tables used for local bar table tournaments. I don't know all that much about Mali felt, but that's the story I got. Unless, of course, I have that backwards. Perhaps the 19 oz is what they use on the tournament tables. That would make more sense, because it doesn't even seem to be the same type of felt on these tables. I suppose there is a possibility that they use Championship felt on the tournament tables. That would make a lot more sense. Whatever felt it is, it does not pill like the Mali felt in the bar rooms, and plays a bit faster. However, when I contacted the vending company, I was informed that they use Mali felt and that they had two different kinds of it: the 19oz and 21 oz. The faster of the two is what I was referring to in my prior post. However, as of late, my table has gotten a little bit faster. I found it hard to believe, but maybe it was humidity that was causing my problems. I wouldn't say that my table is lightning fast, but it is definitely a lot better than it was a month ago.


Geoff
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I can't think of a napped cloth that doesn't pill. That said, if there's no pilling then more then likely they are using a worsted cloth.
Being 19 or 21 oz doesn't identify the cloth or mean a lot in terms of playability. Regardless, humidity and tightness of the cloth do
more in determining how fast a table plays.
 
Perhaps I should have re-worded that. When I said that it doesn't pill like the Mali cloth in the bar rooms, I meant that it doesn't pill as bad.

Geoff
 
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