videos or lessons?

pooltchr said:
There is no guarantee that gambling will improve your game...it's entirely possible it will just cost you a lot of money.
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I'm not suggesting that he lose? Why should he? But if he can find some action, it will take him a long way. Having a little cash on the line gets your attention, and it forces you to concentrate on every detail of your game. Most of the great players that I've known, would agree.
 
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I don't know. Where did you finish?
It's been pointed out many times that the best instructors aren't necessarily the best players, and the best players aren't necessarily the best instructors. They are two completely different skills.
Steve
 
pooltchr said:
There is no guarantee that gambling will improve your game...it's entirely possible it will just cost you a lot of money. Most people don't learn much from losing, except how to lose. I ran into a guy in the pool room last week. He was watching me giving a lesson, and came up to me later and told me if I had been around 20 years ago, it could have saved him thousands of dollars.
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It seems that rather than giving your opinion, you would rather disagree with other views. Your qualifications as a BCA instructor and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee in a lot of places.
 
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oceanweb said:
I'm not suggesting that he lose? Why should he? But if he can find some action, it will take him a long way. Having a little cash on the line gets your attention, and it forces you to concentrate on every detail of your game. Most of the great players that I've known, would agree.

How many BCA instructors finished in the top 10 at this years Derby City Classic?
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How many played???randyg
 
video or lessons?

:) for an avid pool player who really wants to achieve something out of the ordinary, both are great tools....the more books/videos/lessons, the wider the knowledge:)

:) pool whiz
www.filipinopool.com
 
video lessons

BazookaJoe said:
Get a video camera and tape yourself playing.
Then watch it critically.
Bet it helps
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An instructor has offered to give me lessons & tape them so that I can refer back to them. From the tone of this thread, this sounds like the best of both worlds. Thank you.
 
Oceanweb...You're really clever. Too bad you feel the need to bash a valuable service to MOST poolplayers, that fills a huge need. Nobody said you shoiuld take advantage of lessons (skill or etiquette)...although perhaps if you did, your poolroom would have more business, and you wouldn't have to sell your stuff and close down.:rolleyes:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Scott Lee said:
Oceanweb...You're really clever. Too bad you feel the need to bash a valuable service to MOST poolplayers, that fills a huge need. Nobody said you shoiuld take advantage of lessons (skill or etiquette)...although perhaps if you did, your poolroom would have more business, and you wouldn't have to sell your stuff and close down.:rolleyes:
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I'm not bashing instructors, just having a little fun.

Honestly, I think experienced instructors provide an invaluable service to the game. When I open my new room in Greenville, I'll make sure to get some much needed lessons on etiquette (keeping my opinions to myself, closing my mouth when a A+ Certified Master BCA Instructor graces my presence, etc.).
 
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oceanweb said:
How many BCA instructors finished in the top 10 at this years Derby City Classic?
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Jerry Briesath or Mark Wilson may not win the U.S. Open this year but If you think they and people like them can't teach almost anyone, pro's included, something you are just plain wrong. IMO of course.

So a new guy instead of learning solid fundamentals and ways to approach the game, should just muscle up and gamble ? Does not seem to be a wise use of resources to me.

Do you teach kids to swim by throwing them in the pool and saying " Don't worry it will make them concentrate " ?

I have seen my share of so called "Instructors" who can't make 3 balls and I agree they are hard to take serious. But to label all instructors this way is a mistake.

I have recieved instruction from Jerry and Mark and it changed the way I look at the game after 15 years of playing it.

I also was able to watch Scott Lee do some teaching at DCC this year in the AZ room and would feel confident in recommending him.

I agree playing under pressure has it's place, whether thats gambling, leagues, or tournaments. It just really helps to have an Idea what you are doing before you jump in the ring.
 
berlowmj said:
An instructor has offered to give me lessons & tape them so that I can refer back to them. From the tone of this thread, this sounds like the best of both worlds. Thank you.
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I have looked at the first 2 Byrne tapes and they are very good. I also had the pleasure of taking a lesson from one of the instructors posting in this thread. My lesson was taped, and reviewed with me to show me the flaws in my stroke. It was a lesson that was tailored to my needs and skill level, and after I absorbed the information (my game went to hell for a couple weeks) I really feel as though my game has improved on a techincal level. I still don't always make the best shot decisions, but I can draw and stop, and have much better speed control since taking the lesson.

I will take another lesson from Scott Lee, when money and schedules permit. Well worth the time and money IMO

Thanks again Scott, hope to see you at the SBE

McCue Banger McCue
 
JCIN said:
I have seen my share of so called "Instructors" who can't make 3 balls and I agree they are hard to take serious. I agree playing under pressure has it's place, whether thats gambling, leagues, or tournaments. It just really helps to have an Idea what you are doing before you jump in the ring.
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Great post....I agree totally.
 
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royalfool said:
This Greg guy seems to have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, not to mention a nasty attitude. Someone may need to get this gentleman an idiot's guide to dealing with human beings!
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By the way, I had many satisfied customers at RackTime in Greenwood. The above is one of many testimonials from my patrons.
 
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oceanweb said:
Put some hard earned cash up in a money match....that we help your game more than anything.
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i've gambled since i've started playing.its just tough to learn much in my area.there are good players but great isn't around for miles.
 
gpeezy said:
i've gambled since i've started playing.its just tough to learn much in my area.there are good players but great isn't around for miles.
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Yeah....I caught hell for recommending that people gamble (even for small change). After playing for years and not seeing much improvement, it certainly helped my game. It's about motivation.
 
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Gambling MAY only help you get mentally tough. Without a solid set of fundamentals, and a repeatable stroke, you will still lose gambling, in the long run. The thread was about lessons vs. videos, not gambling. With those two choices, lessons are the better pick. Nobody said you, or anyone else shouldn't gamble. What we said was, don't gamble without a solid set up and delivery first! That is most easily learned from a professional instructor.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
oceanweb said:
Private lesson:
$75/hr. or $500/day

Ok... I get it now!! ;)
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New custom cue....$800
Matching Jump-Break cue...$600
Having someone teach you how to use them....PRICELESS!!!

Steve
 
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