Vintage cue questions...nylon insert?

[au2ag]

Today my sweetie and I picked up this cue at a garage sale for $5. He claimed that it was his father's and from the 60's, but were there nylon inserts used in the the 60s or 70s?

The cue is horribly warped in the shaft and slightly in the butt. It is exactly 19 1/2 oz and, interestingly enough, the wrap is laquered over. The owner said that they had a covered pool table outside, and I wonder if they laquered over the wrap because of this- why make a cue and then laquer over the grip?

No weight bolt. 4 points are uneven (2 are 8 1/16" from top of wrap, 1 is 7 3/4" and the other is 7 1/2"). Metal joint is 1 1/8 " long.

I know this must be a cheap cue, but I had to post because 1) there is another one at the same garage sale and 2) I am curious about the joint and the wrap lacquer.

Any insight or knowledge appreciated.

 

[au2ag]

more pics...

Butt is 28 1/2" and the shaft is about 28".

 

[randyg]

Let's start by ruling out a Huebler....SPF=randyg

 

[au2ag]

Thanks... I knew that Huebler was one of the few prod. cues to use nylon inserts, but this certainly did not look like one from what I have seen displayed on this site.

Is it common to have the wrap lacquered over? Purely decorative? It does not make sense to me... seems to be a sign of a cheaply made cue.

Keep 'em coming...:wink: and thanks.

 

[pt109]

Adams used this insert over 25 years ago.
And they used this pin also.
But i'm not sure,they were usually better quality.

 

[greyghost]

Thanks... I knew that Huebler was one of the few prod. cues to use nylon inserts, but this certainly did not look like one from what I have seen displayed on this site.

Is it common to have the wrap lacquered over? Purely decorative? It does not make sense to me... seems to be a sign of a cheaply made cue.

Keep 'em coming...:wink: and thanks.

No its not common unless you own a Meucci. BUT sealing over the wrap WILL make a cue play somewhat stiffer, not to mention it will be SEALED better. Just like a wrapless cue.

I especially LOVE antique white linen wrap...but it gets dirty really easily, I've seen quite a few cues with that cream white wrap that had the finish over the wrap to save the look of the cue and keep it clean.

So it can be functional or aesthetic in regards to the design.

-Grey Ghost

 

[au2ag]

So do I drive the 45 mile roundtrip to go back to the Garage Sale on the off-chance that the one with the broken tip might still be there?

Still looking to start my collection...

 

[Cuebuddy]

I would say no on going back for the second one. The broken tip, 3 gallons of gas, two hours of time and a chance that it might not even be there are all good reasons not to go:wink:. In my opinion it only takes two cues to have the start of a collection so be patient and keep looking and some day you to can have a bunch of cues from garage sales and antique stores like this.

 

[Scott Lee]

Showoff! :thumbup: That's quite the collection Jim! :grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I would say no on going back for the second one. The broken tip, 5 gallons of gas, two hours of time and a chance that it might not even be there are all good reasons not to go:wink:. In my opinion it only takes two cues to have the start of a collection so be patient and keep looking and some day you to can have a bunch of cues from garage sales and antique stores like this.

 

[au2ag]

That was my response too... I have seen some of his closeups in other threads and they are amazing...

Almost makes it seem daunting to begin a collection with that to live up to.

Oh well... though this cue may not be anything of note, I will find more to show in the future. Looking for 1/2 a pool table filled when I am finished.

Cuebuddy... are you saying that all of that collection was found at garage sales and Antique stores? Any thrift store/ pawn finds thrown in there?

 

[Cuebuddy]

Showoff! :thumbup: That's quite the collection Jim! :grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

A few good shooters and a handful of oldies and the rest are junk. But there all loved:grin:.

 

[jay helfert]

I would say no on going back for the second one. The broken tip, 5 gallons of gas, two hours of time and a chance that it might not even be there are all good reasons not to go:wink:. In my opinion it only takes two cues to have the start of a collection so be patient and keep looking and some day you to can have a bunch of cues from garage sales and antique stores like this.

As far as that $5 cue you bought. I would say you got what you paid for. Meanwhile there are some pretty decent looking cues on that table. Good job!

 

[Cuebuddy]

That was my response too... I have seen some of his closeups in other threads and they are amazing...

Almost makes it seem daunting to begin a collection with that to live up to.

Oh well... though this cue may not be anything of note, I will find more to show in the future. Looking for 1/2 a pool table filled when I am finished.

Cuebuddy... are you saying that all of that collection was found at garage sales and Antique stores? Any thrift store/ pawn finds thrown in there?

Most of them came from antique stores and flee markets/thrift stores. Some of the vintage cues came from ebay before ebay got so crazy. I will start a thread one day showing a few of the cooler finds and the $ spent on them. I wish I could afford some customs but for now I will wait until kids collages are paid for. By the way au2ag the cue you found is cool, you can be on the look out for a straight shaft for it and I would bet it plays fine:wink:. I love cues with veneers. You might go to the cue gallery section and see if any of the real collectors can tell what you found.