Warp in cue, how much will it affect my game?

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TheProfessor

Gettin schooled
Hey folks,
I am the new guy around here, and this is my first question. I have an almost 20 year old Meucci that was given to me by my Dad and has a lot of sentimental meaning. I could always buy a nicer cue, but I prefer to keep this one. I put a nice Moori tip on it and it plays nicely. However, I recently noticed that it has a decent warp on the shaft. When I roll it and it gets to a certain point, it rolls backwards. How much will this affect my playing? I guess I could buy a new shaft for it, but I hate to because I just put an expensive tip on this one.

Thanks a lot!
 
If it means that much to you, maybe you could invest in a new shaft?
 
i think if the warp does not happen 6-10" from the tip, it wouldnt hurt ur game too much. And the warp at the butt i dont think would affect a bit.

Just my 2 cts
 
the warp is in the shaft about halfway between the tip and the joint. I am not that worried about it at this point, but if the consensus from the more experienced player on here is that it could affect my shotmaking, then I will look into replacing it.
 
i play with some cues that are warped and it doesn't really affect my game but i know i wouldn't want to shoot with these cues 100% of the time, but just like a peep sight you have to turn the cue to find the warp so it ain't side to side but up and down heeehe.
 
TheProfessor said:
the warp is in the shaft about halfway between the tip and the joint. I am not that worried about it at this point, but if the consensus from the more experienced player on here is that it could affect my shotmaking, then I will look into replacing it.
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If you stay with this game, you will most certainly change equipment eventually. Ask everyone and the majority will agree here. (I have my Dad's old Meucci too - however it looks nicer in the case ;) )

Anyway, jokes aside, I have one concern. if you play with it warped for a long period of time, you will compensate for it or you won't really know how it is effecting your game. Then when you do get a new shaft or cue, you will struggle dearly trying to undo bad habits or compensations. I wouldn't take any chances and just at the very least, get a new shaft for it. Just save the old one for future display opportunities. SERIOUSLY!
 
TheProfessor said:
ok, assuming I do get another shaft, what would be nice for an intermediate player?
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You most likely won't go wrong getting a Predator shaft. I bought one used for my Meucci for $100.

Flex
 
TheProfessor said:
ok, assuming I do get another shaft, what would be nice for an intermediate player?
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I personally think you should get what you can afford. If you want a stiff, low deflection shaft you can't go wrong with either a predator or universal shaft. Some people like the flex, If it is as an old a Meucci as I am guessing, (from the 80's maybe) it has high flex (Twizzlers come to mind), so maybe those above will not suit you. Ask around and try other peoples cues to see if you find a shaft you like. Hitting a really firm draw shot is a great way to get the feel for it.

The guy at GoBilliards, will actually talk to you about this stuff and help you pick one out if you give him a call. His name is Tom and here is his number 1-877-882-2295. Tell him you came from here and I'm sure he will help you out, even if you don't buy anything from him. He is very knowledgeable.
 
Professor
If you have been reading some of the more advanced threads in here you will have seen references to aiming by feel. Some say they use only feel and some say they use something else. But I think they would all say that through practice feel plays a role in ball pocketing. If you continually use a stick with a warp in it, it could mislead the feel that your learning.
 
TheProfessor said:
ok, assuming I do get another shaft, what would be nice for an intermediate player?
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Well if u are considering a Predator cos u should... then be prepared for a period of slow adaptation... cos Meucci and Predator shafts have radically different specs..but u would have to stick at it and put a lot of PRACTICE...and u will see results.. many non advocators of 314 didnt persevere and go thru that rough patch..
 
If you like the Meucci shaft, just order one from Meucci like it....they can match the rings, etc and you can choose no dot, red dot, or black dot so it will be similar. That way you can put your Dad's original shaft away and no one will know you have a different one. A Predator shaft is not a bad choice, either. Call Meucci at 800-563-8224
 
thanks for the advice so far. Perhaps my background will help fine tune my needs. I have played pool since I was 3 years old, and when i was 10 i started playing tournments. I was given this Meucci when I was 12, and have played with it ever since. I took time off in college and got rusty, but I recently purchased a table for my home and have been playing quite a bit. I want to get back into tournament form. The cue feels very comfortable to me because it is all that I have played with for the past 15 years, but perhaps I have been missing out on better equipment. I can feel that the shaft has quite a bit of flex to it, especially compared to some newer cues that I have played with. Should I stay with a flexible shaft, or should I go with a stiffer shaft? I appreciate the advice so far, and I will make sure to call that guy.
 
Now you're done it!

TheProfessor said:
thanks for the advice so far. Perhaps my background will help fine tune my needs. I have played pool since I was 3 years old, and when i was 10 i started playing tournments. I was given this Meucci when I was 12, and have played with it ever since. I took time off in college and got rusty, but I recently purchased a table for my home and have been playing quite a bit. I want to get back into tournament form. The cue feels very comfortable to me because it is all that I have played with for the past 15 years, but perhaps I have been missing out on better equipment. I can feel that the shaft has quite a bit of flex to it, especially compared to some newer cues that I have played with. Should I stay with a flexible shaft, or should I go with a stiffer shaft? I appreciate the advice so far, and I will make sure to call that guy.
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Two of the most volatile subjects in one thread! Meucci and Predator. Hang on!
Personally I think you have to decide if you like the feel of shaft you currently have, or if you'd rather look for a new 'feel'.
I use a laminated shaft, like the black dot from Meucci, and I use a predator. They are different, but close. Both are a big difference from an older Meucci 'whippy' shaft.
 
how much can I expect to fork over for a decent shaft? also, can I have my brand new Moori tip transferred over to the new shaft, or should I just consider it a loss?

Thanks for the helpful replies!
 
I really doubt it will affect your game. I've
known a couple of pros who had warped cues, in
fact Tony Robles used to play with this old
Meucci for years and it was really warped, if
you rolled it on a table it had a big wobble
like a bad house cue...yet he could run 200
balls with it.
 
TheProfessor said:
thanks for the advice so far. Perhaps my background will help fine tune my needs. I have played pool since I was 3 years old, and when i was 10 i started playing tournments. I was given this Meucci when I was 12, and have played with it ever since. I took time off in college and got rusty, but I recently purchased a table for my home and have been playing quite a bit. I want to get back into tournament form. The cue feels very comfortable to me because it is all that I have played with for the past 15 years, but perhaps I have been missing out on better equipment. I can feel that the shaft has quite a bit of flex to it, especially compared to some newer cues that I have played with. Should I stay with a flexible shaft, or should I go with a stiffer shaft? I appreciate the advice so far, and I will make sure to call that guy.
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Professor, I have some nice hitting cues- Jeff Olney,
keith Josey, Jacoby, Dale Perry,etc., & my 20 year
old Meucci hits as good as any of them. The newer
Meuccis are apparently so bad that some on here
can't believe Meucci ever made a great stick.
 
hondo said:
Professor, I have some nice hitting cues- Jeff Olney,
keith Josey, Jacoby, Dale Perry,etc., & my 20 year
old Meucci hits as good as any of them. The newer
Meuccis are apparently so bad that some on here
can't believe Meucci ever made a great stick.
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Man, is that the truth or what? In the 80's they made great sticks and for sure the ones prior to that. I loved the feel and beauty of the Meucci's of old. However, I have hardly seen a good one since. There have been a couple, but most of the new ones I see now and not in the shape you would expect from that same company.
 
TheProfessor said:
Hey folks,
I am the new guy around here, and this is my first question. I have an almost 20 year old Meucci that was given to me by my Dad and has a lot of sentimental meaning. I could always buy a nicer cue, but I prefer to keep this one. I put a nice Moori tip on it and it plays nicely. However, I recently noticed that it has a decent warp on the shaft. When I roll it and it gets to a certain point, it rolls backwards. How much will this affect my playing? I guess I could buy a new shaft for it, but I hate to because I just put an expensive tip on this one.

Thanks a lot![/QU be carefull about buying a newer Meucci shaft........you can research them on here they are junk......the past 10 years ALOT of problems................i know i had 2 .........
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Donovan said:
Man, is that the truth or what? In the 80's they made great sticks and for sure the ones prior to that. I loved the feel and beauty of the Meucci's of old. However, I have hardly seen a good one since. There have been a couple, but most of the new ones I see now and not in the shape you would expect from that same company.
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Unfortunately, I agree. I collected old Meucci cues for years, and still have a few. They were fantastic cues. I will include some pics of my old Meucci Original that I have personally had since 1977. I had it refurbished by Meucci several years ago and put it away. Only bad thing is that it had the round rubber bumper when I sent it to them and they sent it back with the newer style. This cue plays great and is straight, but it is less than 58" long. I have also been a dealer for Meucci. I had so many problems with cues that it is ridiculous....a true shame from one of pool cuemaking's icons.
 
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