Watch Out For Magnetardo

Inevitz

Inevitz

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I hope a little justice could be done here about mangetardo of magnetardo@yahoo.com on Az here.
Your payment for $245.00 USD to magnetardo@yahoo.com has been sent.
This was on 8th July 2008. But till TODAY 7th December i have not received my cue from him. Despite him having a iTrader rating of 8 he still have not sent me my cue.

Half way he told me this.
Hey, I was getting ready to ship the cue today and noticed the insert in the shaft is a little loose, I talked to the maker and he said he will swap it out for me free of charge. I didn't collect your paypal money, do you want to retract it and then we can do the deal when I get the cue back from him? I don't want to hold your money until I get the cue back from him. Sorry about this but I couldn't in good faith send out a cue like this. Let me know what you'd like to do, thanks!
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Then he said this. on 31st August 2008
Yes it is done. I am out of town, I'll be back tue or wed and will be able to ship then. Thanks!
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And finally on 1st November 2008 he said.
Your cue was returned, it was reshipped and is on your way to you, you should have it shortly. I also added something in for your hassle I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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And Finally when i wanted to take action against such people i couldnt do a single thing as paypal wont refund or anything. He has Ignored all my emails up till now... and its really a pity as i thought everyone on Az would be trustable.

Anyone has any suggestion of what i could do now :angry: :sad:
 
We (Magnetardo) had a deal for my SW shaft and on the 18th of Nov. he stated that the M.O. would go out in a day or 2. Dec. 10th and several PM's later and no M.O. Glad i didn't send it to him 1st. Good luck
 
I can't say that I had a transaction as bad as that, but still, he represented a shaft as one thing and I got another. No offer of refund, nothing. From my dealing with him, I can't say I'm surprised. For those of you who have had bad transactions (myself included), it just shows that we do no one any justice by keeping our transaction opinions to ourselves. I think I'll be correcting that issue shortly myself.

tim
 
i suppose someone should start giving him negative iTrader ratings and maybe some administrator could ban him or something :angry: :angry: :angry: fancy cheating our money when the economy isn't that well..:angry:
 
When using Paypal try using the pay with a credit card option. By doing this you can reverse the charges if your getting screwed on the other end. To bad Paypal doesn’t do what they represent they will on a buyers behalf.

I bought a $1,400 watch from a guy in CA and when it arrived guess what, not even close to the photo or description. Tried Paypal and got no where, called my credit card company and they reversed the charges to Paypal. I got all my money back and Paypal had to deal with the deadbeat as they should have in the first place.
 
That's precisely why I only use the "pay by credit card" option in PayPal. In fact, I don't even have a valid bank account associated with my PayPal account (the one that's on there was verified, and has since been closed.)

I was looking at buying a Viking cue from a cue in Jacksonville, and whhen I emailed him and asked how much to close the auction and sell it outright, he said he wouldn't take anything less than $1,100, AND he would not accept any credit card-funded payments through PayPal. I told him he had better update the auction details, because if I won the auction that's exactly how I would pay, and by eBay rules he'd have to accept it or be in violation of the eBay TOS.
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He did update the auction details with that info; however, on the last day of the auction, with around 8 hours left (and bidding at only $325), he cancelled all the bids and the auction, so I emailed him and said "dude, you closed the auction because it wasn't going for what you wanted", which is when he replied and said claiming there was "an error in the description that might cause a problem for the buyer later on. It's a 3-point cue, not a 4-point cue" (which is total BS.) Based on all that, I wouldn't pay him $1 for it unless he'd accept the credit card-funded payment, which protects me from deadbeat sellers.
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So if you have $1000 in your paypal account and you choose "pay by credit" card when making a payment then PP will charge your card rather than use your available balance? Or does your PP Balance need to be at 0?
 
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JB Cases said:
So if you have $1000 in your paypal account and you choose "pay by credit" card when making a payment then PP will charge your card rather than use your available balance? Or does your PP Balance need to be at 0?
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It's been my experience that if you have a PayPal balance then you have no choice but to use it to make the purchase!? So, if you have any doubts about a purchase then you should transfer your balance to your bank account before making a purchase via a credit card!?!?

I'm thinking that is how it works :scratchhead:
 
JB Cases said:
So if you have $1000 in your paypal account and you choose "pay by credit" card when making a payment then PP will charge your card rather than use your available balance? Or does your PP Balance need to be at 0?
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If you have a balance in Paypal, you have no other option available. You have to use this balance till ends. I faced this once.
 
JB Cases said:
So if you have $1000 in your paypal account and you choose "pay by credit" card when making a payment then PP will charge your card rather than use your available balance? Or does your PP Balance need to be at 0?
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BALANCE HAS TO BE AT 0, BUT THAT'S EASY. JUST TRANSFER THE CASH TO YOUR CHECKING, AND TEHN GO RIGHT BACK AND AND PAY FOR TEH ITEM.
 
He Hasn't Been Online Since 11-24...... Maybe He Has Personal Issues? Not Making Excuses For Him, Just Thinking Outloud.
 
I did a cue deal with HER a few months ago on a Coker cue. The cue was paid for over a period of about 3 weeks with PayPal and a money order. No serious problems but she carped about the quality of the finish on the used but refinished cue. No payment problems though.

Martin



FAST_N_LOOSE said:
He Hasn't Been Online Since 11-24...... Maybe He Has Personal Issues? Not Making Excuses For Him, Just Thinking Outloud.
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Whast the original poster failed to mention was His money was refunded 2 days later

Transaction Details


Refund (Unique Transaction ID #3N609055J7990593T)
In reference to:9B226344E3258953Y

Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net
Jul. 7, 2008 Payment From Goh Chester Refunded Details $245.00 USD -$9.86 USD $235.14 USD

Related Transaction
Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net
Jul. 9, 2008 Refund Completed ... -$245.00 USD $9.86 USD -$235.14 USD
Transfer to:
Goh Chester
Email:
chester@live.com.sg

Total Amount:
-$245.00 USD
Fee:
$9.86 USD
Total:
-$235.14 USD

Date:
Jul. 9, 2008
Time:
13:45:40 PDT
Status:
Completed

Subject:
You have sent $235.14 USD to Goh Chester with PayPal
 
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stikapos said:
I can't say that I had a transaction as bad as that, but still, he represented a shaft as one thing and I got another. No offer of refund, nothing. From my dealing with him, I can't say I'm surprised. For those of you who have had bad transactions (myself included), it just shows that we do no one any justice by keeping our transaction opinions to ourselves. I think I'll be correcting that issue shortly myself.

tim
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I wish I had kept your emails to show how ridiculous you are, I sold you a Universal smart shaft with a triangle tip back in jan.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=84574&highlight=universal

You claimed there was no way it was a LS shaft because it had a triangle tip on it instead of the layered it came with, I informed you that the original owner didn't like the tip and swapped it to a triangle, you then proceeded to state that only a moron would prefer a triangle over a layered tip and no one in their right mind would change out a tip that way. I let your rude ass emails go back then but this time I am not. You were offered a FULL refund when this issue occurred I stated if you were'nt happy with the shaft then RETURN it, you did not. Case closed.
 
It's always good to hear both sides of the story before passing judgement.. JMHO Now we've heard both sides, sounds like magne.... is legit to me?
The original poster did not mention that they actually received the refund, they only said that it was offered.. If what magnetardo writes is true, the original poster did not come totally clean, that's a shame.
 
I agree

stikapos said:
I can't say that I had a transaction as bad as that, but still, he represented a shaft as one thing and I got another. No offer of refund, nothing. From my dealing with him, I can't say I'm surprised. For those of you who have had bad transactions (myself included), it just shows that we do no one any justice by keeping our transaction opinions to ourselves. I think I'll be correcting that issue shortly myself.

tim
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You are very correct about "keeping transaction options to ourselves"

I had a trade that went extremely bad, even criminal.
I received a lot of help from the AZ community and got resolution, but not until 2-months of trying behind the scenes, police involvement, and eventually started a bad transaction thread.
I had never left negative feedback, even on Ebay when I should have, however several of the members that helped me, also requested that I leave negative Itrader and I did.
There were also members that wanted me to take it easy thinking that the guy was just slow at responding, which was not the case.

As much as we all want to be good guys and not trash anyone, it is important that we protect each other by using the Itrader feedback system the way it was intended, without being unreasonable.
It seems like once these deals gone bad are made public, others chime in with their story about the same person.
Typically there is resolution once the situation is made public, but with the economy getting worse and worse, desperate people will do desperate things just to survive, and these bad deals are not getting resolved so quickly anymore.
There are a lot of very generous and forgiving people on this forum,
and as distasteful as it is to leave those negatives, the system is in place.
If we are going to use it to police ourselves, than we have to make these issues public, without the fear of getting a negative back....JMO
 
MOJOE said:
It's always good to hear both sides of the story before passing judgement.. JMHO Now we've heard both sides, sounds like magne.... is legit to me?
The original poster did not mention that they actually received the refund, they only said that it was offered.. If what magnetardo writes is true, the original poster did not come totally clean, that's a shame.
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His money has been refunded, I don't know what else to do here....
 
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This is exactly why I rarely use Ebay anymore. Not only have they done away with Negative Feedback but you can't even make negative comments. Its like they are TRYING to get people screwed!

I think most of us have been thru bad transactions and I'd love for AZB to put in place a better way for us to know who we're dealing with. With the way things have gone lately I'd be tempted to use an escrow service on anything I felt the slightest discomfort about.
 
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